2024 is too far away is way I say that. The momentum Kelly built in the program is starting to wane.

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2024 is too far away is way I say that. The momentum Kelly built in the program is starting to wane.

Author: oldirish (9154 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2011)

Posted at 9:24 pm on Dec 23, 2022

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If next year goes anywhere close to this year things will unravel quickly. So we can't wait for someone to maybe figure it out in 2024 at QB.

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Replies to: "2024 is too far away is way I say that. The momentum Kelly built in the program is starting to wane."

Hartman not looking veryy impressive against Mizzou - ccb - 7:56pm 12/23/22 (50) [View All]
- Re: Hartman not looking veryy impressive against Mizzou - Rocketman84 - 11:58pm 12/23/22
- He's not an upgrade. Just has played more years. We should have rolled with Pyne if this path was - oldirish - 8:44pm 12/23/22
  - Re: He's not an upgrade. Just has played more years. We should have rolled with Pyne if this path was - Rocketman84 - 11:34pm 12/23/22
  - You realize Pyne left ND, not the other way around, right? [NT] - NDavenue - 9:28pm 12/23/22
    - Absolutely, very smart move. They weren't going to play him. He's the best QB ND had and if he plays - oldirish - 9:39pm 12/23/22
      - Re: Absolutely, very smart move. They weren't going to play him. He's the best QB ND had and if he plays - Rocketman84 - 11:42pm 12/23/22
      - They weren't going to let him play? Now you're just making shit up. [NT] - NDavenue - 10:05pm 12/23/22
        "now"? [NT] - Chrisb - 10:42pm 12/23/22
        Old salty. I had you pegged as different. I was wrong. [NT] - oldirish - 11:21pm 12/23/22
        
        Good point. [NT] - NDavenue - 11:00pm 12/23/22
    - ^^^^^^^^^^^ [NT] - OklahomaIrishman - 9:31pm 12/23/22
  - How many passes has he had batted down tonite ? - OklahomaIrishman - 9:13pm 12/23/22
    - There was at least 1 should have been picked after the 10 ft' float too. [NT] - oldirish - 9:28pm 12/23/22
    - The announcers were actually making fun of how short he was and couldn't see over the line at the - oldirish - 9:14pm 12/23/22
      - I don't think Pyne can even start at ASU [NT] - OklahomaIrishman - 9:19pm 12/23/22
        You're likely one of those that would argue he wasn't 8-2 at ND. He'll start. [NT] - oldirish - 9:23pm 12/23/22
        I don't think he will and if Hartman and Pyne are the same thing..... - OklahomaIrishman - 9:30pm 12/23/22
        The biggest issue at ND is lack of consistancy and development of QBs. Going behind a guy that - oldirish - 9:43pm 12/23/22
  - He is definitely an upgrade over Pyne. [NT] - Chrisb - 8:54pm 12/23/22
    - Just set the ACC record for TD passes - OklahomaIrishman - 10:07pm 12/23/22
    - We'll circle back when Pyne finishes his 5th year and compare. [NT] - oldirish - 9:03pm 12/23/22
    - Bullshit, this game very much on par with pyne. He's - ColeyO - 9:03pm 12/23/22
      - Bullshit to your Bullshit, this game showed Hartman read the D and spread ball around - Chrisb - 11:21pm 12/23/22
      - Pyne could have stayed. In my view he didnt play so well that he deserved to be handed the job. - DiscoRick - 9:13pm 12/23/22
      - ^^^This - oldirish - 9:05pm 12/23/22
    - Last year was just sad. They did it with smoke.and mirrors. - DiscoRick - 9:00pm 12/23/22
  - The best we could get… [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:47pm 12/23/22
    - Pretty sad TBH. [NT] - oldirish - 9:10pm 12/23/22
  - The best we could get… [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:47pm 12/23/22
  - Shows they don’t have much confidence in Buchner [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:45pm 12/23/22
    - Or Pyne. [NT] - DiscoRick - 8:45pm 12/23/22
      - It was actually a very smart move by Pyne. [NT] - oldirish - 9:07pm 12/23/22
        Seems the writing was on the wall. [NT] - DiscoRick - 9:15pm 12/23/22
      - ???? He’s gone already [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:47pm 12/23/22
        That's why. [NT] - DiscoRick - 8:50pm 12/23/22
- He thought that he had free play-D jumped offsides-saw it as no risk. Gotta be fair. Crap Ol also. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:35pm 12/23/22
  - Ref blew the call they were off sides [NT] - OklahomaIrishman - 9:15pm 12/23/22
  - Never fails the OL excuses... smh. [NT] - oldirish - 8:44pm 12/23/22
- Hes a lesser book that excels in the slow mesh [NT] - beefy78 - 7:57pm 12/23/22
  - Excels? [NT] - ColeyO - 8:02pm 12/23/22
  - For ND, Book was a good QB. [NT] - DiscoRick - 8:00pm 12/23/22
    - Good, not great. ND needs great right now. Hartman is a typical BK type. [NT] - Karamello - 8:10pm 12/23/22
      - Not BK but more ND. [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:00pm 12/23/22
      - Who is the great one they could bring in? - DiscoRick - 8:16pm 12/23/22
        Hartman is nowhere close to a better college player than Book. Not even close. Card was the best - oldirish - 8:46pm 12/23/22
        And then they'd likely lose Minchey or Carr next year, & maybe both. - DiscoRick - 8:50pm 12/23/22
        At this point I'm hopeful Minchey is he's proclaimed to be. Hopefully he can push for PT just don't - oldirish - 9:12pm 12/23/22
        I dont care who it is, as long as there is one good QB in the bunch for once. [NT] - DiscoRick - 9:16pm 12/23/22
        2024 is too far away is way I say that. The momentum Kelly built in the program is starting to wane. - oldirish - 9:24pm 12/23/22
        It's 1 year. But I think we had Freeman's frowing pains. Unproven QB's - DiscoRick - 9:32pm 12/23/22