Except it actually isn't...in fact if you look at the type of mobility

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Except it actually isn't...in fact if you look at the type of mobility

Author: Chrisb (16376 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:09 pm on Jan 2, 2023

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that truly makes a QB lethal to defenses, Hartman is superior to Buchner. Buchner has better straight line speed, but Hartman has the kind of lateral quickness to make an unblocked DL miss like what Book was good at, and move around in the backfield to extend plays and then take off running if they forget about him.

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Replies to: "Except it actually isn't...in fact if you look at the type of mobility"

Be careful what you wish for in Sam Hartman, an INT machine - MarkHarman - 2:15pm 1/2/23 (39) [View All]
- INT rate very similar for Buchner and Hartman: 1 every 22 vs. 1 every 20 (rounded to nearest #) - MarkHarman - 11:26pm 1/2/23
  - Huh? Hartman career 1597 passes 41 ints. is 38.95 Buchner 116 and 8 is 14.74. Check it. [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 3:29am 1/3/23
  - You better check again. Wherever you got those numbers are wrong. Are you making it up? [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 3:18am 1/3/23
- ND offered, it's his decision all the way. Is he stringing the Irish along like Moore did ? [NT] - ColeyO - 4:12pm 1/2/23
- If the end game is to compete with the Georgia and Alabama’s Buchner’s play - MuskyTommy - 3:29pm 1/2/23
  - Re: Sam Hartman threw 3 picks in a losing effort this year to NC State - IrishOkie - 4:25pm 1/2/23
- Hartman's RTG was 159.4 and Pyne's was 155.3 in 2022 - bobdrake - 3:29pm 1/2/23
  - No better comparison than common opponents.. - Chrisb - 4:36pm 1/2/23
    - Do you have the info regarding INTs with common opponents? [NT] - bobdrake - 6:08pm 1/2/23
      - Yes, it's listed there: 6 to 1 & 19 to 2 [NT] - Chrisb - 7:25pm 1/2/23
    - Chris, you've posted this a couple times. You're comparing Hartman to Pyne. Limited value at best - Irish_Demon - 4:57pm 1/2/23
      - Do you not see the post I replied to? [NT] - Chrisb - 5:36pm 1/2/23
- Hartman is a huge upgrade - franksboy - 3:05pm 1/2/23
  - Huge, and I don't understand those who think otherwise. [NT] - NDQuebec - 4:20pm 1/2/23
    - So just out of curiosity. With Hartman are you thinking 14, 13 ,12, 11, or 10 wins next season? - IrishOkie - 4:33pm 1/2/23
      - I'm thinking 10 or 11 during the regular season. - NDQuebec - 5:00pm 1/2/23
      - Starting at 10 it’s an upgrade over this year [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 4:48pm 1/2/23
- Last two years he averaged an int. for every 36 passes. Buchner int for every16 passes this year. [NT] - irishsmashmouth - 3:01pm 1/2/23
  - I got Hartman 1 INT for every 21.9 passes; Buchner 1 INT for every 19.7 passes. [NT] - MarkHarman - 11:23pm 1/2/23
  - But he’s 6’1” [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 3:22pm 1/2/23
- Vs our four common opponents this year Hartman threw 19 TDs 2 Ints vs 6 TDs 1 Int.. - Chrisb - 2:47pm 1/2/23
- Uhm, you do know that Buchner threw 2 pick 6’s on - Frank L - 2:35pm 1/2/23
- Sam Hartman ranks among the leaders in every category. - ELP - 2:32pm 1/2/23
  - Including interceptions [NT] - MarkHarman - 11:24pm 1/2/23
- Buchner can't stay healthy. Backup plan if its not Hartman? Angeli not going to get a shot [NT] - goldenleprekan - 2:27pm 1/2/23
  - We have nothing behind Buchner. Less experience than pyne had to start year [NT] - ndphysics - 2:29pm 1/2/23
- Interceptions aren’t always a “bad” thing - NDNEIL - 2:25pm 1/2/23
  - Did Rees say that? [NT] - bobdrake - 3:37pm 1/2/23
    - I vaguely remember him saying that to Kelly - NDQuebec - 5:11pm 1/2/23
    - Maybe, but a lot of other coaches have - NDNEIL - 4:15pm 1/2/23
  - Wow [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 3:23pm 1/2/23
    - You disagree? [LINK] - NDNEIL - 4:14pm 1/2/23
- Wake is a nice little school with a gadget football team. [NT] - irishslovak - 2:24pm 1/2/23
- Buchner's dual threat ability is something that Hartman lacks. [NT] - Irishize - 2:22pm 1/2/23
  - Except it actually isn't...in fact if you look at the type of mobility - Chrisb - 3:09pm 1/2/23
- Buchner played 1 game behind a good o line. Hardly - ndphysics - 2:18pm 1/2/23
  - I hope it “downs works out” - WoodstockIrish - 4:34pm 1/2/23
    - Fat freaking fingers [NT] - ndphysics - 5:02pm 1/2/23
- I am not wishing for anything but Buchner to start next fall. [NT] - murph78 - 2:18pm 1/2/23