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ELP...I apologize for what I said, it was over the line to say you lied, let's start over..

Author: Chrisb (16401 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:36 am on Sep 9, 2024
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I think your statement is a misrepresentation.

I will admit upon further review there were more than I stated who came with prior experience and still failed, but the results are still very heavily slanted towards the experienced HC hires.

I overlooked: Hunk Anderson, Hugh Devore, and Joe Kuharich. I thought when I did this research they showed no prior College HC experience but apparently I was wrong.

So when you look at all of our HCs and break them into win percentage of .750 and above vs those under that, you have 10 HCs above .750 who came in with prior HC experience and only 5 above that who were inexperienced.

When you look at guys under .750 (Kelly is at the top with .738) you have 10 who were inexperienced and only 5 who were experienced.

Mathematically, that is literally inverse results when you hire experienced vs inexperienced HCs.


"Notre Dame by a million..Go Irish!" -Shane Gillis

Replies to: "ELP...I apologize for what I said, it was over the line to say you lied, let's start over.."

  • Is Marcus "too nice"? [LINK] - LanceManion - 7:37am 9/9/24 (20) [View All]
    • Brian Kelly wasn’t nice and where did that get us? - NDWisconsin - 9:19am 9/9/24
      • 5 ten win plus seasons. He wasn’t the guy but neither is Marcus. [NT] - LanceManion - 9:52am 9/9/24
        • Also a 4-8 one and losing just about every big game. [NT] - Frank L - 10:04am 9/9/24
    • Many of the fans have been 'too nice' in continuously supporting MF no matter what he does - bobdrake - 8:54am 9/9/24
    • Was concerned at the pick but hoped he would grow into the position. - TakethetrainKnute - 8:30am 9/9/24
      • Agree. ND seems to get it wrong in coaching hires a lot more than they get it right. - LanceManion - 8:43am 9/9/24
      • The malpractice you speak of is specific to hiring guys without prior HC experience.. - Chrisb - 8:42am 9/9/24
        • IMHO Marcus is a player's gentleman. He's really good at emotion & that hype thing. - ELP - 9:06am 9/9/24
          • Ayup. [NT] - Frank L - 10:41am 9/9/24
          • Sadly, I think this is the case as well [NT] - TakethetrainKnute - 9:28am 9/9/24
        • Agree. Started with Faust...where ND exhibited the hubris to believe it could create a Rockne-type - TakethetrainKnute - 8:51am 9/9/24
          • It actually started with Terry Brennan, with whom they tried to do the same thing. He'd only coached - MAS - 9:05am 9/9/24
            • We've had plenty of disappointments with experienced coaches too. I get it though. I hear ya. [NT] - ELP - 9:08am 9/9/24
              • No we have not...that is a flat out lie. ty and Kelly have the worst two win % among - Chrisb - 9:16am 9/9/24
                • Stop being a childish wise ass.That's the only response you're getting. [NT] - ELP - 9:28am 9/9/24
                  • ELP...I apologize for what I said, it was over the line to say you lied, let's start over.. - Chrisb - 11:36am 9/9/24
                  • List the experienced HCs who bombed! - Chrisb - 10:16am 9/9/24
                    • Joe Kuharich was one. [NT] - Hensou - 10:43am 9/9/24
                      • Yeah I corrected myself above with apology..I missed a couple. [NT] - Chrisb - 11:45am 9/9/24
                    • Ty Willie should have had enough to succeed. He just sucked. [NT] - Frank L - 10:31am 9/9/24
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