quite as hard with the exceptions of Ryan, Koufax, Feller and I cannot remember whether Spahn threw hard, but he won like 370 games I believe. One reliever who threw hard was Ryne Duren, plus he was blind as a bat and used to throw the first warmup pitch to the backstop to intimate hitters. I thought of another one who went 9 and threw hard, that tall guy that pitched for Arizona and the Yankees.
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