It's relative. Angeli > Leonard relative to QBs we have. I love you're seeking for ways to paint

oldirish 9561 posts Joined: Oct 8, 2011

Posted 9:54 pm on Sep 23, 2024

it is if Riley is doing well, and many other issues aren't his fault. But, the offense sputters with him under center. The chains don't move and we become one-dimensional really fast. He ran well Saturday. That won't work against good teams. Everyone knows this.

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It's relative. Angeli > Leonard relative to QBs we have. I love you're seeking for ways to paint oldirish 9:54pm · 9/23/24
- What's your basis for Angeli > Leonard ? Chrisb 11:22pm · 9/23/24
  - It's possible I could be wrong. Data wise, See the QBR posts. I thought you saw them Link oldirish 8:27am · 9/24/24
    - "There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics" - Mark Twain. Clem 7:21am · 9/25/24
    - I think you are dead wrong on Golson. He could rally a team big time. Came back on Stanford with a THEISMANCARR 7:28pm · 9/24/24
      - Don't forget... W/o Rees, Golson would've had 3 losses in 2012 - Final drive come from behind @ PUR oldirish 1:13pm · 9/25/24
        
        That was a great final drive by Rees. He used that player that was Manti's buddy from Hawaii. Rees THEISMANCARR 6:12pm · 9/25/24
    - Seems like some good information here, I'll check it out when I have time to do it justice.. Chrisb 9:24am · 9/24/24
      - I don't think a limited 2 quarterback system is awful. Sometimes you have to break the other team's THEISMANCARR 7:32pm · 9/24/24
      - We are in agreement on many, many points and close/symantically different on a few others.NT oldirish 1:15pm · 9/24/24
        
        I think this post is a perfect snapshot to encapsulate our entire coexistence together.. Chrisb 7:22pm · 9/24/24
        
        Yes. That small amount of difference is how iron sharpens iron, IMO. That's how we learn and grow by oldirish 9:55pm · 9/25/24
        
        ugggh… I just posted a detailed response and it failed to load!!! Will do again, but later.NT oldirish 2:40pm · 9/25/24
        
        Dude, I hate it when that happens!NT Chrisb 4:31pm · 9/25/24
        
        Re: Dude, I hate it when that happens!NTLink oldirish 5:16pm · 9/27/24
        
        Brutal.NT oldirish 9:19pm · 9/25/24
        
        Excellent post, Chris.NT Clem 5:34am · 9/25/24
        
        That's a great motto.NT THEISMANCARR 7:35pm · 9/24/24
      - You do not consider the Sun Bowl a meaningful game ? Great performanceNT ColeyO 1:07pm · 9/24/24
        
        No, what were they playing for? Angeli looked good in that game for sure.. Chrisb 1:59pm · 9/24/24
        
        He was auditioning to be a starter, and was under a lot of ColeyO 2:53pm · 9/24/24
        
        I haven't and won't say that it wasn't damn good.. Chrisb 6:37pm · 9/24/24
        
        We disagree then, I think it was very meaningful ColeyO 7:04pm · 9/24/24
        
        *NT ColeyO 7:04pm · 9/24/24
        
        The rub is RL isn't doing it in the game, Angeli is/has. So, is practice really that relevant from oldirish 7:01pm · 9/24/24
        
        I felt at the time and do as well now. Given the known weakness of this schedule and that oldirish 3:39pm · 9/24/24
      - I think we all agree on the fact it’s a sad state of affairs that a $1M+ NIL QB in his 4th year of WoodstockIrish 10:08am · 9/24/24
    - Excellent post. 100% follow your logic and agree. WoodstockIrish 8:41am · 9/24/24
      - Thanks and agree. I do think Freeman is embarassed for whatever reason. If not, then he's not suited oldirish 1:20pm · 9/24/24
        
        I have a lot of respect for Saban WoodstockIrish 5:55am · 9/25/24
        
        I hate to admit it, but Saban is good. I 10000% agree with that take on the portal. He's right.NT oldirish 2:57pm · 9/25/24
- You say you want to have a conversation of substance but you didn't respond to anything I said. wrdomerson 10:08pm · 9/23/24
  - 1. I don't see the relevance of the botched FG. Optically, yes it looked bad and compounded ugly QB oldirish 10:21pm · 9/23/24
    - The FG has nothing to do with Leonard- wrdomerson 11:06pm · 9/23/24
      - see this post (link) for the point on confidence the team has in a QB.Link oldirish 1:34pm · 9/24/24

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