What kind of logic is this...

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What kind of logic is this...

Author: Zander (200 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:32 pm on Nov 13, 2024

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If the polls were wrong in week 2, what guarantee is there that they're right in week 8. If the polls have any credibility, then of course the ranking at the time they played is what should matter. If ND goes in and beats the number 5 team in week 3, that's what they should get credit for. The victor shouldn't be penalized or held accountable for what happens to their opponent after they've been beaten. In other words SOS based on opinion polls is bs and shouldn't be a metric in the first place.

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Replies to: "What kind of logic is this..."

UT #3 with no top 25 wins. Best W= Vanderbilt - KWIRISH - 7:41pm 11/13/24 (48) [View All]
- More importantly, how is PSU #4. It's laughable. - LanceManion - 10:44am 11/14/24
  - And scored 6 offensive points in that game. - NDinKentucky - 12:04pm 11/14/24
    - Remember, they scored 34 against mighty Bowling Green (but gave up 27). I don't get it. - LanceManion - 1:52pm 11/14/24
      - They are really the only ranking I have heartburn with.. - Chrisb - 4:06pm 11/14/24
        See, I really dislike them but they have two good running backs like us, very good defensive backs - THEISMANCARR - 5:20pm 11/15/24
- Pig suey! - AlbanyIRISH - 5:19am 11/14/24
- . [NT] - bill rekles - 8:39pm 11/13/24
- That's actually not accurate...they played 4 teams that were ranked when they played ... - Chrisb - 8:29pm 11/13/24
  - Texas currently has 1 power 4 win against a team with a winning record. - AlbanyIRISH - 5:55am 11/14/24
    - UPSET ALERT this weekend! Texas also looks to get beat by A&M and NOT make the playoff! [NT] - KWIRISH - 10:03pm 11/14/24
    - I wouldn't argue against this, just like I wouldn't argue that.. - Chrisb - 8:04am 11/14/24
      - Sagarin has ND SOS at 66 and Texas at 47. - iairishcheeks - 8:11am 11/14/24
  - My comment above came straight from ESPN radio - KWIRISH - 11:00pm 11/13/24
    - ESPN radio should check their own ESPN website [LINK] - Chrisb - 11:07pm 11/13/24
  - Why does that matter? - iairishcheeks - 10:11pm 11/13/24
    - As the season progresses, current rankings mean more - KWIRISH - 11:03pm 11/13/24
      - Rankings are not a quantitative measure of how good a team actually is... - Chrisb - 11:22pm 11/13/24
        Huge difference between that argument - WoodstockIrish - 8:16am 11/14/24
        I'm not mixing apples and oranges.. - Chrisb - 8:41am 11/14/24
        Should GT get more credit for beating FSU than ND or not? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 8:53am 11/14/24
        It's not about "should" or your poor little feelings on the matter. Factually, GA Tech "did" get [LINK] - Chrisb - 10:15am 11/14/24
        Seems like you're projecting this 'feelings' bullshit. - iairishcheeks - 1:43pm 11/14/24
        Wrong, I have only pointed out facts while you have only leaned on your feelings... - Chrisb - 2:33pm 11/14/24
        Point to where you think my feeling came into play. - iairishcheeks - 2:56pm 11/14/24
        
        How do you reconcile that argument with this one? [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 11:36pm 11/13/24
    - BINGO [NT] - KWIRISH - 11:01pm 11/13/24
    - Completely agree with you - WoodstockIrish - 10:48pm 11/13/24
      - The only thing is momentum and attitude are important if you are playing a team. If they are ranked - THEISMANCARR - 1:04am 11/14/24
        We are taking anout teams that were ranked and now have 3-4 losses - WoodstockIrish - 8:06am 11/14/24
        
        So what happened against NIU? - iairishcheeks - 7:14am 11/14/24
    - What kind of logic is this... - Zander - 10:32pm 11/13/24
      - Simple: as more games are played, the polls become more reflective of reality. - iairishcheeks - 10:42pm 11/13/24
        Re: Simple: as more games are played, the polls become more reflective of reality. - Zander - 10:08am 11/14/24
        
        Agreed [NT] - KWIRISH - 12:09am 11/14/24
        
        Was ND a better team on Oct 18th, 2014 when we were 6-0 and ranked #5, and - Chrisb - 10:56pm 11/13/24
        Exactly our attitude for that game was reflected in our achievement and obviously hit the shitter as - THEISMANCARR - 1:07am 11/14/24
        
        FSU underperformed in that game. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 11:37pm 11/13/24
        We certainly won the line of scrimmage and were the more physical team that night. - NDinKentucky - 12:12pm 11/14/24
        You could say we overachieved or they underachieved. - iairishcheeks - 6:02pm 11/14/24
        
        That may be the biggest bullshit response ever posted on this board. - Chrisb - 7:33am 11/14/24
        FSU was a lot better than ND in 2014, the records and stats prove it. - iairishcheeks - 7:44am 11/14/24
        
        That is a bullshit answer. If they underperformed it was because we performed well and we did not - THEISMANCARR - 1:15am 11/14/24
        It was fools gold, at no point in 2014 were we the actual 5th best team in the country. - iairishcheeks - 6:53am 11/14/24
        Defense was getting badly exposed by mid season - ndunabomber - 6:26pm 11/14/24
        That was tough to read, I repressed a lot of those memories [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:32pm 11/14/24
        
        Early season rankings are a joke - WoodstockIrish - 8:10am 11/14/24
        We agree, using early season rankings in any argument is a weak argument. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 8:12am 11/14/24
        In addition, here's a hypothetical to prove the absurdity of their argument. - iairishcheeks - 8:36am 11/14/24