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Yesterday was an embarrassment to the bench. [LINK] - Cole - 6:53am 12/19/18 (117) [View All]
- Flynn's sins fit the definition: "Adhering to this Nation's Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort" [LINK] [IMAGE] - Corky - 9:43pm 12/19/18
- It's an embarrassment to all civil rights groups. On what basis Flynn became a criminal target who's - Eli - 4:02pm 12/19/18
  - Then why did Flynn lie about it? All he had to say is yeah we discussed sanctions, what of it? - Frank L - 7:05pm 12/19/18
    - BS. You're actually saying, on a murder case the court decided a murderer's sentence is not on his - Eli - 7:51pm 12/19/18
      - Why if they flipped him? If not then yeah, throw the sink at him. - Frank L - 9:49pm 12/19/18
        He lied 'cause of the poisonous political atmosphere then & also likely his own characteristics - Eli - 1:27am 12/20/18
        What they said on TV was allegedly based on his lies to them not the other way around. - Frank L - 8:27am 12/20/18
- Explain how he “resigned” from being an unregistered foriegn agent when he became NSA. [LINK] - Frank L - 11:36am 12/19/18
  - I love this. Ned tried to bring it up yesterday. Just amazing. - Chris94 - 11:41am 12/19/18
    - Amazing how he undid the blackmail risk by filing the same retroactive filing Podesta did. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:48am 12/19/18
      - Sooo, where have I defended Podesta? - Frank L - 11:53am 12/19/18
        Remember when you said it was so convenient of me that I changed my position on Clinton impeachment? - NedoftheHill - 12:06pm 12/19/18
        As usual it all comes back to Neddie what aboutism. - Frank L - 12:14pm 12/19/18
        "When Podesta is arrested, I'll stop defending Flynn." - Chris94 - 12:22pm 12/19/18
        Yes, continuing to engage with me will continue to show that I am fair, and you are biased. - NedoftheHill - 12:25pm 12/19/18
        Let's repeat it again, kids! If Podesta, Hillary or whoever your evildoer du jour are Russian assets - Chris94 - 12:35pm 12/19/18
        Funny that arguing for blind application of the law is considered so dangerous to you. [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 12:48pm 12/19/18
        Here’s the Ned blind application of the same standard. - Frank L - 3:27pm 12/19/18
        That is a 2-way street. You could post that about Chris or Jim or Lance. - NedoftheHill - 4:42pm 12/19/18
        I don’t know anyone here who is saying that. Again for whatever double digit figure it’s now in time - Frank L - 5:03pm 12/19/18
        
        Doubt it. You would just move to another partisan defense. - Frank L - 12:28pm 12/19/18
        Amazing that arguing for uniform application of the law is considered partisan. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:49pm 12/19/18
        Really Ned? You think you would be taking the same position if it were Susan Rice? - Frank L - 2:57pm 12/19/18
        Well, Susan Rice would be a special case. ;-) [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:43pm 12/19/18
        
        You use the word "whataboutism." I prefer "fairness and consistency." Tomāto, tomäto. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:22pm 12/19/18
        Of course you do, but you don’t practice it. [NT] - Frank L - 3:10pm 12/19/18
      - What about...?! [NT] - LanceHarbor - 11:50am 12/19/18
        Exactly. You get it now. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:52am 12/19/18
        
        When the facts are not on your side, muddle the issue [NT] - Chris94 - 11:51am 12/19/18
        Muddle the issue...by calling you out directly as being wrong on the facts? Um...ok. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:52am 12/19/18
        Give us the facts again - we're not clear on them, I mean, we have the same info as you - jimbasil - 11:54am 12/19/18
        Actually, no, it does not appear that you have the facts. You've been wrong many times. - NedoftheHill - 12:03pm 12/19/18
        No, actually I'm not wrong, you are. - jimbasil - 3:05pm 12/19/18
        
        Flynn became a Russian asset the moment he lied about the money he took from Putin [LINK] - Chris94 - 12:22pm 12/19/18
        Perhaps the strongest point you make in your post is the ominous "there may be more than we know" - NedoftheHill - 12:36pm 12/19/18
        
        No, your tediousness is also unfactual. - Frank L - 12:10pm 12/19/18
        Like I say: Prosecute D's and R's, I'm good. Prosecute only R's, I'm not. It's that simple. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:23pm 12/19/18
        Completely non responsive to the post contents and self serving. [NT] - Frank L - 12:29pm 12/19/18
        Except that it is a summary of everything I've posted in this thread. Other than that.... - NedoftheHill - 12:45pm 12/19/18
        I accept that you can’t refute the facts in the post. [NT] - Frank L - 2:58pm 12/19/18
    - You mean like he didn’t owe them anything for that $500K? Love to see all the lobbying work for that - Frank L - 11:43am 12/19/18
      - Client pays Frank. Frank fires client. Franks takes appointed position. Frank must still rep client. - NedoftheHill - 11:51am 12/19/18
        Where did he fire the client and resign from his representation before being fired as NSA? - Frank L - 11:54am 12/19/18
        Are you alleging he did not do that? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:58am 12/19/18
        Where and how did he fire Turkey as a client before becoming NSA? He hadn’t even admitted working - Frank L - 12:02pm 12/19/18
        Here is one timeline I found, but it doesn't address your question. [LINK] - NedoftheHill - 2:26pm 12/19/18
        Again, you can’t refute the facts. - Frank L - 3:03pm 12/19/18
        His partners did a lot for the money. You think they gave it all to Flynn after doing all that work? - NedoftheHill - 8:14pm 12/19/18
        They did? Link the actual work they allegedly did. Also, where is the evidence of who got more than - Frank L - 10:00pm 12/19/18
        
        double post. [NT] - Frank L - 11:54am 12/19/18
- "Shockingly incompetent"? A Reagan appointee to the federal bench incompetent? - jimbasil - 10:40am 12/19/18
  - "Shocking" is lying to the Court in a sentencing memo about lies you already admitted. [NT] - ND521 - 11:25am 12/19/18
    - ...and then expect a smile and a pat on the back... [NT] - jimbasil - 2:59pm 12/19/18
- Mueller won that sealed en banc DC Circuit hearing too Cole. The hits just keep coming. [NT] - ND521 - 10:37am 12/19/18
- You will have some credibility when you start holding - irishscooter - 10:32am 12/19/18
- Why for being outraged at Flynn’s behavior? For suggesting that he arguably sold out his country? - Frank L - 10:11am 12/19/18
- Plea deals are mere proposals for the Court to consider - Mark - 9:31am 12/19/18
  - Thank you for your BS non sequitor. - Cole - 9:42am 12/19/18
    - #2 is idiotic. There is no protocol for investigating the APNSA for treason. - Chris94 - 11:45am 12/19/18
      - Except that Comey said they were able to violate protocol because the Trump Ad'n was so disorganized - NedoftheHill - 2:35pm 12/19/18
    - Did Mark bring up Hillary again ? [NT] - ND521 - 11:09am 12/19/18
    - U realize Flynn and his attorneys agreed the FBI did not breach protocol sending agents to his home? - jimbasil - 10:48am 12/19/18
      - So, was Comey lying when he said they did? - NedoftheHill - 2:36pm 12/19/18
        In fact and in fairness, what I read in his transcript was he said that in a normal, functional - Frank L - 5:13pm 12/19/18
        
        I suspect the truth is exactly what the judge, Flynn and his attorneys agreed was fact. - jimbasil - 2:57pm 12/19/18
        Sullivan is a patriot, and a very good judge, and an independent one. - Frank L - 3:09pm 12/19/18
        Bingo! [NT] - jimbasil - 3:47pm 12/19/18
    - You're only concerned about the first part of #2. - LanceHarbor - 9:57am 12/19/18
  - Yes, if this act makes him an embarrassment, I assume Cole hasn't been in front of many. [NT] - LehighND - 9:37am 12/19/18
    - Been in front of a lot of judges have you...perhaps after Grateful Dead concerts? ;-) [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:32pm 12/19/18
- Keep in mind the judge has seen the classified info, and the redacted stuff - Chris94 - 7:55am 12/19/18
  - Like what Flynn said to the Russian ambassador. [NT] - Frank L - 10:13am 12/19/18
    - The FBI knows that as well. Comey admitted they knew exactly what he said before they asked him. - NedoftheHill - 11:34am 12/19/18
      - Problem is that WE don’t also know. The Judge does. [NT] - Frank L - 11:45am 12/19/18
      - This is hilarious - Chris94 - 11:38am 12/19/18
        You actually make a good point here. - NedoftheHill - 11:58am 12/19/18
        The lengths you go to defend the indefensible are staggering. [NT] - Frank L - 12:00pm 12/19/18
        "I would rather the laws be applied without regard to politics." Indeed, that is an extreme idea. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:45pm 12/19/18
        
        . [NT] - Frank L - 11:41am 12/19/18
  - Keep in mind that the judge apologized after Mueller corrected him. Incompetence. [NT] - Cole - 8:10am 12/19/18
    - Mueller called him? - LanceHarbor - 8:41am 12/19/18
      - The prosecutors corrected the judge's incorrect statement that Flynn was a foreign agent - Iggle - 10:01am 12/19/18
        Yes, but not exactly - It's not known - at least to the public - if Flynn acted as one while - jimbasil - 10:52am 12/19/18
        He clearly did, both during the transition and after. By the way how does one resign from being an [LINK] - Frank L - 11:33am 12/19/18
        It's not known to the general public. Just Frank L Public. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:35am 12/19/18
        Wanna adress the issue? You can’t. - Frank L - 11:39am 12/19/18
        So, you are alleging that he was an unpaid agent for Turkey while he was APNSA? - NedoftheHill - 11:47am 12/19/18
        False because the prior Admin was changing that before he intervened to stop it. - Frank L - 11:50am 12/19/18
        Maybe he gave a speech? I hear you can get up to $750k for doing that. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:44pm 12/19/18
        Another great non answer. [NT] - Frank L - 3:03pm 12/19/18
        It demonstrates that Clinton got $700k checks...from the Russians no less. Flynn didn't. - NedoftheHill - 8:25pm 12/19/18
        And if Clinton had won, and Bill was calling the Russian spy chief to undermine a R administration - Frank L - 9:44pm 12/19/18
      - Want a great laugh? - Rooney - 8:48am 12/19/18
        Fantastic. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:41am 12/19/18
        
        I haven’t posted on this for that reason, but I will say...... - BaronVonZemo - 10:26am 12/19/18
        Working on behalf of foreign government while being APNSA is in fact treason, in my view. Sorry! [NT] - Chris94 - 11:42am 12/19/18
        Mark, as a board moderator with a habit of trying to correct me, will you correct Chris? [NT] [LINK] - Cole - 12:31pm 12/19/18
        
        Good thing that never happened, then. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:45am 12/19/18
        No, he took their money and they expected nothing for it. That's how it works alright. [NT] - Chris94 - 11:46am 12/19/18
        Do you know when he took their money? That's an honest question. Not looking to make a point. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:43pm 12/19/18
        Reports I've seen said negotiations for Turks to pay him happened two weeks after the GOP convention [NT] - Chris94 - 1:33pm 12/19/18
        Hmmm. [Edit: I found a timeline, with additional facts.] - NedoftheHill - 1:46pm 12/19/18
        But he tried to get Gulen extradited when he was NSA. That is the key problem. - Chris94 - 3:15pm 12/19/18
        Mueller didn’t allege treason, and the judge walked his comments back. That is ridiculous for the - BaronVonZemo - 11:09pm 12/19/18
        
        Link? I wouldn't be shocked if he did. He obviously liked Erdogan's regime. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:29pm 12/19/18
        
        Ah finally the expected "whataboutism" arrives. I was holding my breath. - jimbasil - 10:54am 12/19/18
        I don't think mentioning the word "whataboutism" is as effective as you think it is. - NedoftheHill - 11:44am 12/19/18
        Effective enough for you to give us your distinction - - jimbasil - 11:53am 12/19/18
        Everytime you say "whataboutism" you undermine your position by calling attention to unfair law enf. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:42pm 12/19/18
        yeah, no, only in your mind. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:53pm 12/19/18
        
        Judge Sullivan's comments were not at all unfair - Mark - 11:52am 12/19/18
        Lawfair is no fan of Trump. And even they say the comments were "grossly inappropriate." [LINK] - Cole - 1:00pm 12/19/18
        Technically, Mark did not refer to the unfair comments. He referred to other comments. - NedoftheHill - 1:45pm 12/19/18
        
        I never said the comments you reference were unfair. I agree with your post. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:41pm 12/19/18
        
        Haha. Just like Pirro. - LanceHarbor - 9:07am 12/19/18
      - Lancey so smart. [NT] - Cole - 8:46am 12/19/18
        Cole so stupid. [NT] - jimbasil - 10:54am 12/19/18
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More evil Trump stuff. How self serving! [NT] [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 1:47am 12/19/18 (1) [View All]
- Bobby Three Sticks 36 Donnie Rotten 0 [NT] - ND521 - 3:27am 12/19/18
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Damn, the 'President' himself signed the Moscow Tower LOI. Is everything he touches corrupt ? [NT] - ND521 - 1:34am 12/19/18 (0) [View All]
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Kudos to Trumpo, Kushner and the Senate on passing - irishscooter - 10:55pm 12/18/18 (17) [View All]
- By all accounts it is a needed step. - LehighND - 9:39am 12/19/18
  - Yeah, I wish the D's would reach across the aisle more. [NT] - jimbasil - 10:55am 12/19/18
  - I agree. My post is genuine and giving credit where credit is due. Despite the buffoon barron - irishscooter - 10:25am 12/19/18
    - I’m in your head.....and it’s claustrophobic in here. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:31am 12/19/18
      - get The chip off your shoulder and exit the alternative reality you - irishscooter - 10:34am 12/19/18
- Of course, the timing might be a little self-serving. [NT] - ND521 - 1:05am 12/19/18
  - Of course. They are 100% evil after all. We must seek they gray lining. RESIST!!! [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 1:13am 12/19/18
    - Don and Jared are 100% self serving, but the proposed law is at least a start on reform. [NT] - ND521 - 1:22am 12/19/18
      - How so? - MAS - 1:25am 12/19/18
        It is a very modest step toward ending mass incarceration of many low level offenders. [NT] - ND521 - 1:44am 12/19/18
    - Are you seriously going to argue that this was a principled stand by the Right? [NT] - MAS - 1:20am 12/19/18
      - I wasn’t commenting on the issue at all,just pointing out the irrational hatred of NDcooternot50120 - BaronVonZemo - 1:51am 12/19/18
        Must have missed your post about charitable foundation fraud. [NT] - ND521 - 3:35am 12/19/18
- Law-abiding black citizens pushed for harsher sentences for crack cocaine back in the 1980s. - MAS - 1:01am 12/19/18
  - You raise a number of valid points. It’s a difficult issue as federal sentencing mandatories did in - Frank L - 11:16am 12/19/18
- Koch Bros. and their general counsel were behind this, that helped get GOP votes. Tom Cotton against [NT] - Rooster - 11:34pm 12/18/18
  - The Koch Bros conclusion about healthcare also has merit. [NT] - ND521 - 1:08am 12/19/18
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Obamacare is perfectly safe. [LINK] - Curly1918 - 4:33pm 12/18/18 (13) [View All]
- Our economic system is known as State Capitalism and only in your misinformed brain do... - ND1IRISH - 10:28pm 12/18/18
  - I kinda agree with you... we seem to have a plutocracy... now dominated by our high tech elites - Curly1918 - 9:58am 12/19/18
  - By definition socialism makes things the same for everyone which is not what anyone should want. We - THEISMANCARR - 1:07am 12/19/18
    - I'm not sure what Socialism has to do with the discussion. [NT] - ND1IRISH - 7:16pm 12/19/18
- Slate is trying to quell the Left’s delicate nerves, but even what it describes is hardly “safe”.... - BaronVonZemo - 5:42pm 12/18/18
  - Roberts is a cautious and canny conservative... and he thinks long term - Curly1918 - 10:18am 12/19/18
  - Let’s wager. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 6:19pm 12/18/18
    - Get into your comfies and sleep tight, Lance. All is well in Camelot. Perfectly safe,perfectly safe [NT] [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 10:01pm 12/18/18
      - Is this you deflecting the wager offer from Lance? - irishscooter - 10:57pm 12/18/18
        Ha, ha. Do I get paid in bitcoin? [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:40pm 12/18/18
      - Come on, wuss. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 10:56pm 12/18/18
        Wow. You proved Obamacare is safe with a bold betting strategem and a dash of machismo! Sleep well.. - BaronVonZemo - 11:49pm 12/18/18
        Chicken [NT] - LanceHarbor - 7:32am 12/19/18
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Just posting some actual good news for once [LINK] - Hank Scorpio - 3:39pm 12/18/18 (7) [View All]
- Looks like Baker Mayfield [NT] - LanceHarbor - 9:27pm 12/18/18
- Great news that the baby is ok. Bad news that her dad is still among the living. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 5:43pm 12/18/18
  - Indeed. WTF. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:56pm 12/18/18
- Not sure how he's merely charged with "domestic assault." - jakers - 4:20pm 12/18/18
  - At least attempted murder is coming I am sure - or at least I hope [NT] - Hank Scorpio - 8:51am 12/19/18
  - Strange, in CA would have been premeditated attempted first degree murder, "I thought about it..." [NT] - Rooster - 11:38pm 12/18/18
    - I'm sure a charge like that is coming. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:22am 12/19/18
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RIP Laverne [NT] - Chris94 - 2:46pm 12/18/18 (2) [View All]
- Shirley you jest. [NT] - Aragoto - 4:12pm 12/18/18
- RIP, so sad. - jimbasil - 2:51pm 12/18/18
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Just waiting for the post from one of the Cole/Eli/Baron trio going after Judge Sullivan. - Frank L - 2:05pm 12/18/18 (65) [View All]
- Man, BVZ really roasted you! - NedoftheHill - 8:43pm 12/18/18
  - BVZ is a delusional fanatic. [NT] - Frank L - 9:01pm 12/18/18
    - It's been fun Frank. - NedoftheHill - 9:46pm 12/18/18
      - Baron is crazy. You are getting there. [NT] - Frank L - 10:00pm 12/18/18
      - You guys are delusional. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 9:59pm 12/18/18
- What a jerk. We only knew you're pussy &whiny before.You're the only one on board who attacked judge [NT] [LINK] - Eli - 2:24pm 12/18/18
  - And here comes number two right on time. - Frank L - 2:28pm 12/18/18
    - So, don't expect me at same level as you're. The judge is a good judge. Flynn is an American hero. [NT] - Eli - 2:33pm 12/18/18
      - Heroes don't commit treason. [NT] - ND521 - 5:15pm 12/18/18
        This is true. I'm not sure Flynn is a hero, but he definitely did not commit treason. - NedoftheHill - 8:34pm 12/18/18
        Colloquially yes, ie. disloyalty, betrayal of country. Legally, no. [NT] - ND521 - 1:03am 12/19/18
      - Those both can’t be true. A “good” judge would not have disgust and dismay at an American hero. [NT] - Frank L - 2:35pm 12/18/18
        A good judge would have disgust at things that actually happened, not fake news. - NedoftheHill - 8:33pm 12/18/18
        So it’s okay to represent a foreign govt while being the national security - Frank L - 9:01pm 12/18/18
        Glad to see you are walking back your accusation. Now he was NSA to a mere candidate? - NedoftheHill - 9:06pm 12/18/18
        Where did I say differently? - Frank L - 9:09pm 12/18/18
        Would be helpful if you would actually name something he did that was illegal. - NedoftheHill - 9:15pm 12/18/18
        Try the Logan Act. Try conspiracy with Russia - Frank L - 9:21pm 12/18/18
        Yeah, pretty sure no one credible alleges Flynn's conversations with the Ambassador were illegal. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:44pm 12/18/18
        They clearly would be if part of a scheme for the Russians to help Trump - Frank L - 9:56pm 12/18/18
        
        . [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:19pm 12/18/18
      - Yeah, heroes take checks from foreign governments and then lie about it. Heroes! [NT] - Chris94 - 2:34pm 12/18/18
        He didn't lie about that. - NedoftheHill - 8:32pm 12/18/18
        He did not disclose his Turkish money; he lied about his Russian contacts - Chris94 - 9:10pm 12/18/18
        Let's unpack that so it is not misleading. - NedoftheHill - 9:38pm 12/18/18
        Ned is very tedious ( to put his posting persona in a positive light) - irishscooter - 10:38pm 12/18/18
        
        Why must you always be so tedious - Chris94 - 10:16pm 12/18/18
        
        The lies were that he didn’t discuss sanctions with Kislyak. - Frank L - 9:59pm 12/18/18
        
        No Ned and Baron know better. The judge is a victim of fake news. - Frank L - 9:12pm 12/18/18
        I think I've demonstrated this quite well on this one limited issue. - NedoftheHill - 9:41pm 12/18/18
        You have a much higher opinion of yer demonstration - Frank L - 9:44pm 12/18/18
        
        However Mueller is a pariah going after war hero's and great American's. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:40pm 12/18/18
    - Therefore all content in your posts will be decided on Eli's interpretation of them. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:33pm 12/18/18
    - I'm sure all of these guys would have been perfectly OK if Susan Rice had been.... - Chris94 - 2:31pm 12/18/18
      - How about Tony Podesta? He rep'd the same country as an unregistered lobbyist just like Flynn. - NedoftheHill - 8:36pm 12/18/18
        What about Tony Podesta?! Jesus, so tedious. [NT] - Chris94 - 10:18pm 12/18/18
        
        Was he ever Nat Security Advisor? - Frank L - 9:03pm 12/18/18
        No he wasn't at the time. Neither was Flynn. Good point, the parallel is very strong. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:08pm 12/18/18
        He was to the candidate. And he did advance Turkeys’ interests when - Frank L - 9:11pm 12/18/18
        Here ya go. Podesta do anything like that? [NT] [LINK] - Frank L - 9:16pm 12/18/18
        Obama did. Maybe it was Podesta who was lobbying Obama on that. - NedoftheHill - 9:20pm 12/18/18
        What did Obama do? You make no sense. - Frank L - 9:23pm 12/18/18
        The same thing Flynn did...delay arming the rebels. Read your own link. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:43pm 12/18/18
        Flynn was disuading them from doing it and - Frank L - 9:47pm 12/18/18
- "I feel terrible about that" said Judge Sullivan, after questioning whether Flynn committed treason - Cole - 2:19pm 12/18/18
  - He is guilty of MUCH more than perjury. The judge was right - he apologized for his tone. - Chris94 - 2:26pm 12/18/18
    - Actually, you are wrong. You should be embarrassed about that. - NedoftheHill - 8:38pm 12/18/18
      - I took a step back here bc there is no point in arguing with them as you've shown. - Cole - 6:43am 12/19/18
    - Re: He is guilty of MUCH more than perjury. [IMAGE] - jimbasil - 2:43pm 12/18/18
    - No, he is only guilty of perjury. That is our system of law. [NT] - Cole - 2:39pm 12/18/18
      - No, he pled guilty to perjury. He is guilty of much more. See? [NT] - Chris94 - 2:46pm 12/18/18
    - He got paid over $500K to advance the interests of Turkey. [NT] - Frank L - 2:31pm 12/18/18
      - Normal for a lobbyist. Probably what Podesta got paid by Turkey. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:40pm 12/18/18
        Link for that? Was Tony Nat Security advisor to a prez campaign? [NT] - Frank L - 9:07pm 12/18/18
  - And there it is in all of its glory. I’m glad that we still have judges who care about America. - Frank L - 2:23pm 12/18/18
    - And there it is. Pure stupidity and proof that I should have never responded to you. - Cole - 2:25pm 12/18/18
      - Good for you, stand up for stuff you believe even if it sits outside the realm of fact. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:48pm 12/18/18
      - Whelp since you inhabit Trump world, of course he’s not. - Frank L - 2:30pm 12/18/18
- Oddly silent. He's sifting with great anxiety through the internet machine for FOX TV to tell him - jimbasil - 2:15pm 12/18/18
  - Speaking of FNC, even Judge Nap is now saying that there is ample evidence to indict Orange. [NT] - Frank L - 2:20pm 12/18/18
    - Saw that. Judge Nap usually sticks to the facts. Big libertarian. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:41pm 12/18/18
    - To the surprise of his audience and the show he said it on. There comes a point where - jimbasil - 2:31pm 12/18/18
      - That’s exactly the point. At some point even partisans who have an ounce of integrity give it up. [NT] - Frank L - 2:33pm 12/18/18
        You know he's now got a target on his back - he's a RINO [NT] - jimbasil - 2:37pm 12/18/18
        It’s nice to see you found a friend in Frank. You two make a marvelous couple. [NT] - Domer From Hell - 3:25pm 12/18/18
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Will Trump resign just after Christmas as a some sort of deal with Mueller? - jimbasil - 1:48pm 12/18/18 (24) [View All]
- dream on, stupid [NT] - Hank the Tank - 11:58pm 12/18/18
- I do think that it is possible if Don Jr., Jared, and Barbie are in Mueller's sights. - golfernot - 7:33pm 12/18/18
- unfortunately I don’t ever see Trumpo taking the high road or doing - irishscooter - 2:06pm 12/18/18
  - I think no matter what, there will be no Trump library when he's done. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:12pm 12/18/18
    - wouldn’t that be hilarious- a Trumpo Library. No books - irishscooter - 2:21pm 12/18/18
      - They could mount all of the one- slide four - bullet briefs on the walls. - golfernot - 7:25pm 12/18/18
      - Could have live porno star shows and uh hem the water sports bed. [NT] - Frank L - 2:38pm 12/18/18
        Ha, Trump World peep shows - 24 hours of viewing pleasure. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:41pm 12/18/18
      - A Cairn of rough hued stones emblemizing his destruction of the American moral code is possible. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:29pm 12/18/18
- 17 active investigations - that we know of - Chris94 - 1:51pm 12/18/18
  - As Comey referenced Monday, they “Hoover’d” their opponents. - BaronVonZemo - 5:51pm 12/18/18
  - It will be hugely and the mostest of any President ever. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:54pm 12/18/18
- I'm looking forward to the Pence presidency, when Democrats and Republicans can be civil again. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:51pm 12/18/18
  - Pence is gone in first quarter '19. [NT] - ND521 - 5:10pm 12/18/18
    - Interesting. Not saying you are wrong, but do you have any basis to support that speculation? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:55pm 12/18/18
      - basis? are you kidding? 521 doesn't need prove only speculation. and he - Hank the Tank - 11:56pm 12/18/18
  - I’m looking forward to a president who puts the interest of the nation first instead of his own. - Frank L - 1:59pm 12/18/18
    - Me too. - NedoftheHill - 2:58pm 12/18/18
      - Not necessarily will he be removed. - Frank L - 3:15pm 12/18/18
        That's the way it is supposed to be. Not all of your political bedfellows agree with us. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:17pm 12/18/18
        Why did they seal off the DC Circuit for that en banc hearing last week ? [NT] - ND521 - 5:13pm 12/18/18
        There are some speculating that Orange is fighting a grand jury subpena. [NT] - golfernot - 7:28pm 12/18/18
        
        I have no idea. Maybe you should start a new thread about it. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:53pm 12/18/18
  - His photo ops against women will be awesome [NT] [IMAGE] - jimbasil - 1:53pm 12/18/18
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cR's-ickets? - jimbasil - 1:15pm 12/18/18 (2) [View All]
- What is GOP theme song? [NT] - irishscooter - 1:53pm 12/18/18
  - that's the Daily Double for you. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:53pm 12/18/18
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BLM, a case of not in my yard. [NT] [LINK] - WestCoastIrishFan - 1:04pm 12/18/18 (1) [View All]
- And Pivot [NT] - jimbasil - 1:04pm 12/18/18
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Apparently, Judge Sullivan is also a deep state operative. [NT] [LINK] - Frank L - 12:53pm 12/18/18 (17) [View All]
- He walked back his comment after being reminded that the foreign agent occurred before WH job, - Eli - 1:34pm 12/18/18
  - wow - what a total troll [NT] - irishscooter - 1:52pm 12/18/18
    - Yeah, I guess the judge was kind of acting like a troll. Introducing facts not in evidence. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:45pm 12/18/18
    - He's looking for a bridge to hide under. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:55pm 12/18/18
  - Yeah, Eli that makes it all good. He didn’t walk back the comment that Flynn arguably sold out his - Frank L - 1:37pm 12/18/18
    - Eli is paid by the same people who paid Flynn - Chris94 - 1:42pm 12/18/18
      - He’s clearly on that team. Comes by it naturally. [NT] - Frank L - 1:58pm 12/18/18
- We've set a low bar for treason and selling out our country. Money, Money, Money. - jimbasil - 1:01pm 12/18/18
- I've said this for a year: Flynn is a traitor. There is no wiggle room here. - Chris94 - 12:59pm 12/18/18
  - Got a link to support any of that? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:46pm 12/18/18
  - I really don't understand the prosecution team on this. - jimbasil - 1:12pm 12/18/18
    - Except we don’t know what he has given them and what he still can do. - Frank L - 1:13pm 12/18/18
      - Even so, there cannot be such a low bar set. - jimbasil - 1:20pm 12/18/18
        Unfortunately they can’t cause he’s retired. - Frank L - 1:29pm 12/18/18
        IT's all the fault of the US intel and justice agencies. - jimbasil - 1:40pm 12/18/18
  - I’m just glad that someone finally had the balls to speak for America about this behavior. - Frank L - 1:11pm 12/18/18
    - Absofuckin'lutely! [NT] - jimbasil - 1:12pm 12/18/18
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Trump Foundation in dissolution. Lawsuit action to continue. So many crimes for one man. - jimbasil - 12:47pm 12/18/18 (9) [View All]
- Besides the dissolution; the fines with penalties; ongoing oversight; there - irishscooter - 1:57pm 12/18/18
- Whatever happened to his self portrait? - golfernot - 1:22pm 12/18/18
  - It’s in the shitter next to the Oval where it belongs. [NT] - Frank L - 1:40pm 12/18/18
    - His best tweets are inspired there. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:55pm 12/18/18
  - It was donated to the whitehouse and hangs next to Lincoln's portrait. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:27pm 12/18/18
- I love how the right is all up-in-arms about the Clinton Foundation.... [LINK] - Chris94 - 1:01pm 12/18/18
  - Lock Her UP! Lock Her UP! Lock Her UP! - err - Lock Him Up - it's unbelievable - jimbasil - 1:04pm 12/18/18
    - Buffoon Barrrron got it right all along. Trumpo and team accuse - irishscooter - 2:13pm 12/18/18
      - Exposed for knowing a fact. [NT] - jimbasil - 2:16pm 12/18/18
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Looks like bully boy Orange backing down on shutting the govt. - Frank L - 12:29pm 12/18/18 (5) [View All]
- While TrumpPelosiShumer diddle around on whether to spend 4 hours worth or 10 hours worth ... [LINK] - CC72 - 4:48pm 12/18/18
- Like who didn’t see that coming LOL [NT] - CC72 - 4:26pm 12/18/18
- The Great Negotiator! [NT] - jimbasil - 12:40pm 12/18/18
  - Pelosi and Chuckie made him look like a fool. That says something right there. [NT] - Frank L - 12:42pm 12/18/18
    - I dislike Chuck; all facade. Pelosi i've always liked; she has balls! Now for something nonPC - jimbasil - 12:53pm 12/18/18
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Manchester U have fired Mourinho. [NT] - Aragoto - 9:18am 12/18/18 (4) [View All]
- Currently the most successful manager, the best coach of game management & defense, my "dear enemy" [NT] - Eli - 1:40pm 12/18/18
- A good start, but there is a lot of work to do. - Rooney - 10:00am 12/18/18
  - Importance of academy is due to those years when only 3 foreign players were allowed in each team. - Eli - 1:54pm 12/18/18
- He's been cursed ever since he publicly abused Eva Carneiro... every player's favorite doctor... [NT] [LINK] - Curly1918 - 9:39am 12/18/18
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Things people try to improve upon, but fail every time... [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:56pm 12/17/18 (37) [View All]
- Sean Connery as James Bond. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:05pm 12/18/18
- Windows 7 - NedoftheHill - 4:38pm 12/18/18
  - Ha! Wordperfect. - LehighND - 6:14pm 12/18/18
    - I've used WordStar on an Osborne I computer. [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 9:04pm 12/18/18
- Robin Hood. [NT] - jakers - 1:37pm 12/18/18
  - I actually liked the Costner/Freeman one. - LehighND - 1:52pm 12/18/18
    - Are you serious? - jakers - 4:18pm 12/18/18
      - My bad taste in movies is legendary. - LehighND - 5:27pm 12/18/18
        I don't think the 2 you mentioned here are bad at all. - jakers - 5:11am 12/19/18
        
        By "first one" do you mean Episode IV? or Episode I? - NedoftheHill - 5:59pm 12/18/18
        Not sure I agree there. - jakers - 5:12am 12/19/18
        
        IV. - LehighND - 6:10pm 12/18/18
        Yeah. Episode I was truly awful. Lucas has very nearly ruined IV by rediting it to add more effects. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:02pm 12/18/18
- Autumnal mead. [NT] - Chris94 - 1:05pm 12/18/18
- Coca-Cola. [NT] - ND521 - 12:20pm 12/18/18
- New York Cheese Cake. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:48am 12/18/18
- My chili recipe. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 10:30am 12/18/18
- The patriotic men and women of the “deep state”. [NT] - Frank L - 10:28am 12/18/18
- Voltaire said it best, “Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien." [NT] - Curly1918 - 9:41am 12/18/18
  - Douchiest post of 2018. Got it in just in time. [NT] - Chris94 - 1:02pm 12/18/18
- Muscle cars [IMAGE] - Nigel Tufnel - 8:22am 12/18/18
- The way to sing a National Anthem. [NT] - Rooney - 8:19am 12/18/18
- The Grinch That Stole Christmas. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:14am 12/18/18
  - Good one. [NT] - jakers - 1:37pm 12/18/18
  - Agreed. [NT] - Chris94 - 1:05pm 12/18/18
  - Exactly [NT] - LehighND - 12:57pm 12/18/18
- The standard iHop pancake, with standard syrup - NedoftheHill - 11:57pm 12/17/18
- The oreo cookie - NedoftheHill - 11:57pm 12/17/18
  - even the origional ain't the cookie many of us grew up with [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 7:53am 12/18/18
  - Disagree - Double Stuf and Cinnamon Bun are superior - wrdomerson - 7:23am 12/18/18
    - Honestly, they should have closed the Patent Office after the invention of the Double Stuff. [NT] - LehighND - 1:54pm 12/18/18
      - There was a disturbance in the force that day, when otherwise good people were led astray. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:35pm 12/18/18
        I invented the quadruple-stuff approximately 30 seconds after seeing my first Double Stuff. - LehighND - 5:28pm 12/18/18
        You sick bastard!! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:05pm 12/18/18
    - Blasphemer! - NedoftheHill - 9:35am 12/18/18
      - There is nothing abominable about pumpkin pie. - wrdomerson - 10:14am 12/18/18
        Agreed. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:53pm 12/18/18
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Interlocking Trump-Russia Conspiracies [LINK] [IMAGE] - Corky - 11:12pm 12/17/18 (3) [View All]
- The Russians are targeting Mueller too [LINK] - Chris94 - 8:13am 12/18/18
  - i should have linked that article last night but thought buffoon Barron - irishscooter - 10:32am 12/18/18
- You'd have to be a buffoon to believe that and from the WSJ too. Words from Baron to us. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:09am 12/18/18
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Wonder if Trumpo had knowledge of his friend Putin targeting - irishscooter - 9:56pm 12/17/18 (15) [View All]
- Only a buffoon would think that Putin influenced us NOT to vote for HRC. You actually believe this? - BaronVonZemo - 10:29pm 12/17/18
  - Has Senator Burr "turned"? A buffoon? [NT] - golfernot - 1:25pm 12/18/18
  - So the Senate Intelligence Committee are buffoons. [NT] - LanceHarbor - 7:44am 12/18/18
    - I'm sorry you were fooled. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:44am 12/18/18
    - Wrong. [NT] - Rooney - 8:32am 12/18/18
  - You're right, all the intelligence agencies in the US have stated it happened, therefore you'd be a - jimbasil - 11:02pm 12/17/18
    - talking about buffons [NT] - Hank the Tank - 12:13am 12/18/18
    - Trump voters don’t need no fancy intel community - Chris94 - 11:12pm 12/17/18
      - head buffoon [NT] - Hank the Tank - 12:14am 12/18/18
    - . [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:10pm 12/17/18
    - No, they merely refer to about 100k spent (as always)...you can’t accept the truth. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:04pm 12/17/18
      - Or, you can't. One of us has it wrong. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:06pm 12/17/18
        Agreed. One of us is wrong. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 11:11pm 12/17/18
- . [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:27pm 12/17/18
- Baron and the Russian trolls. Sounds like a punk rock band. [NT] - Frank L - 10:15pm 12/17/18
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Market volatility is a beautiful thing. Who else is enjoying the carnage? - ND1IRISH - 8:14pm 12/17/18 (12) [View All]
- Welp...at least you're not quoting an opinion piece from the Intercept. #progress [NT] - Domer From Hell - 11:28am 12/18/18
- Posted like a true malcontent. What, your entitlement check late? [NT] - ghostwriter - 11:48pm 12/17/18
  - Posted like an idiot who doesn’t know how to short the market. [NT] - ND1IRISH - 8:38pm 12/18/18
- It’s only carnage if you’re stupid enough to sell and fix it in. Now tell me...who did the fed - BaronVonZemo - 10:19pm 12/17/18
  - Your comments reveal your naïveté of market and economic dynamics. Too bad you don’t know how to.... - ND1IRISH - 8:43pm 12/18/18
  - That’s a good question. Who did they cut them under? [NT] - LehighND - 12:54pm 12/18/18
- Lovely. [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 10:02pm 12/17/18
- Funny, a month ago you said you were long. You really should revisit your posts. While you’re at i - WestCoastIrishFan - 9:41pm 12/17/18
  - Funny you don’t know shit about hedging. Furthermore... - ND1IRISH - 9:21pm 12/18/18
- what a tool--you are [NT] - Hank the Tank - 9:19pm 12/17/18
  - the asshole is back [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 7:54am 12/18/18
  - You misspelled asshole [NT] - ColeyO - 9:31pm 12/17/18
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Hmmm, was thinking. Meebe General Flynn didn’t lie..........to VP Pence. - Frank L - 7:47pm 12/17/18 (1) [View All]
- Just noticed you were addressing this to my son. I'll answer for him. - NedoftheHill - 5:03pm 12/18/18
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Four of Trump's cabinet appointments resigned under suspicion, remember "Drain the Swamp" ? [NT] - Rooster - 4:35pm 12/17/18 (2) [View All]
- "Rationality belongs to the cool observer but because of the stupidity of the average man..." - ND1IRISH - 8:20pm 12/17/18
- What he really meant was “Bring your own swamp with you”. - Frank L - 4:59pm 12/17/18
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Over/under on the total time that will be served by all the Trump perps other than Manafort? - Curly1918 - 1:30pm 12/17/18 (8) [View All]
- Including the score or so still to be charged ? [NT] - ND521 - 1:59pm 12/17/18
- Over [NT] - jimbasil - 1:44pm 12/17/18
  - Re: Over [NT] - jimbasil - 1:44pm 12/17/18
- Whelp, Cohen already has 3. - Frank L - 1:36pm 12/17/18
  - He won’t serve 2. Who else you got? [NT] - Curly1918 - 6:48pm 12/17/18
    - Hmm, he will get five months for good time and would have to major flip on some other Trumpos to - Frank L - 7:15pm 12/17/18
  - Oh Lordy! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:31pm 12/17/18
    - Re: Oh Lordy! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:31pm 12/17/18
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Michael Flynn, the FBI and the right's latest theory [LINK] [IMAGE] - Corky - 12:18pm 12/17/18 (7) [View All]
- I know Michael Ledeen - Chris94 - 1:49pm 12/17/18
  - A guy I know from the War College served with Flynn in the field. - Frank L - 2:15pm 12/17/18
    - By all accounts, a great tactical intel guy - Chris94 - 3:25pm 12/17/18
      - Strange also because he is a D by party affiliation, or at least was when Barry fired him. - Frank L - 4:23pm 12/17/18
        That IS strange, because Trump is such a conventional conservative. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:19pm 12/17/18
        ? [NT] - Frank L - 7:20pm 12/17/18
- You would think he had found himself in circumstance where he was being conditioned. - jimbasil - 12:43pm 12/17/18
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Hey Cole, no more economic reports? I do miss them so. [NT] - Frank L - 10:09am 12/17/18 (3) [View All]
- I would rather listen to a petarade from your posterior than read your responses to my eco post. [NT] - Cole - 12:23pm 12/17/18
  - Trump wins ! Trainwrecks good economy faster than W/Vice. [NT] - ND521 - 1:06pm 12/17/18
  - Things haven’t gotten that bad lad..........yet. [NT] - Frank L - 12:26pm 12/17/18
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If stars and suns are so hot, why is space so cold? [NT] - jimbasil - 9:15am 12/17/18 (33) [View All]
- Safe to assume this is from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez' twitter feed? - iairishcheeks - 12:16pm 12/17/18
  - lol. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 4:18pm 12/17/18
  - Ah, is this a political thing? I wouldn't be surprised. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 2:31pm 12/17/18
- What is space? Vacuum/nothingness. How would nothingness manifest heat? It cannot. - NedoftheHill - 10:30am 12/17/18
  - How do you know this? [NT] - jimbasil - 12:29pm 12/17/18
    - Hmm. Good question. 4 semesters of physics, 1 of thermodynamics, other classes. - NedoftheHill - 2:31pm 12/17/18
      - Setting you up? Nah. It was just a rhetorical question for fun. - jimbasil - 2:47pm 12/17/18
        Regarding climate change, I'm a luke warmist. - NedoftheHill - 3:16pm 12/17/18
        Interesting. ... So, your point is, do nothing. - jimbasil - 3:21pm 12/17/18
        Doing nothing is better than doing something bad that doesn't help. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 4:20pm 12/17/18
        "better than doing something bad that doesn't help", - jimbasil - 4:40pm 12/17/18
        I'm sorry you can't understand. Life isn't fair. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:46am 12/18/18
        "Only a Buffoon ..." would say something that stupid. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:21am 12/18/18
        
        "First, do no harm." [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:37pm 12/17/18
        Primum non nocere. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 10:45am 12/18/18
        
        Study. The scientific consensus is great on matters we don't have to change. - NedoftheHill - 3:40pm 12/17/18
        Okay, 98% or better of CC scientists isn't a strong enough number. Good to know from a science guy - jimbasil - 4:04pm 12/17/18
        98% of CC scientists is a strong number. They just don't all support what you say they do. - NedoftheHill - 4:08pm 12/17/18
        So, really you're just another denier using anything out there to justify political inertia. [NT] - jimbasil - 4:33pm 12/17/18
        You are a false promoter, misrepresenting the consensus into something it is not for political wins. - NedoftheHill - 5:54pm 12/17/18
        
        and you are an alarminist refusing to accept any sort of argument from the other side. You can't - WestCoastIrishFan - 4:40pm 12/17/18
        Alarmist? Um, no. But I do believe man is negatively influencing global climate. - jimbasil - 5:02pm 12/17/18
        The US is way ahead when it comes to taking care of the environment. - NedoftheHill - 6:17pm 12/17/18
        The point is, Brick - the planet is covered in smog. Smog as far as I can tell is man made. [NT] - jimbasil - 10:13pm 12/17/18
        Yeah...not really. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:58pm 12/17/18
        Re: Yeah...Yes, really. [NT] - jimbasil - 11:03pm 12/17/18
        
        "your". [NT] - iairishcheeks - 3:32pm 12/17/18
        
        "stars and suns" is a little redundant, no? - iairishcheeks - 2:54pm 12/17/18
        I can't believe you'd post that and not know the difference between a sun and a star. - jimbasil - 3:16pm 12/17/18
        Eh, no. All suns are stars. - iairishcheeks - 3:30pm 12/17/18
        That's probably why I posted - jimbasil - 4:05pm 12/17/18
        98% of scientists refer to them all as "stars". [NT] - iairishcheeks - 6:37pm 12/17/18
- Distance. [NT] - Frank L - 10:17am 12/17/18
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The word of the year, this year per Merriam-Webster - - jimbasil - 8:03am 12/17/18 (1) [View All]
- Re: The word of the year, this year per Merriam-Webster - - Frankx - 11:50am 12/17/18
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What are folks binge watching for the holidays? - WoodstockIrish - 7:38am 12/17/18 (1) [View All]
- The new season of Narcos on Netflix is excellent [NT] - irish93 - 10:45am 12/17/18
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Who do you think will become VP when the wax dummy “resigns” ? [NT] - ND521 - 12:03am 12/17/18 (4) [View All]
- Comey [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 7:55am 12/18/18
- It can only be Jared. [NT] - Rooney - 8:39am 12/17/18
- Stephen Miller [LINK] [IMAGE] - Corky - 12:59am 12/17/18
- Robert Mueller [NT] - CC72 - 12:13am 12/17/18
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Pretty shocking revelations against Mueller & FBI wrt to Flynn who may soon walk free .... [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 8:15pm 12/16/18 (38) [View All]
- We gave the FBI license to lie because this helped bring down dangerous criminals... - Curly1918 - 9:19am 12/17/18
  - Yes. With power, comes responsibility. Political use of that power is an abuse of that power. - NedoftheHill - 10:41am 12/17/18
  - Re: We gave the FBI license to lie because this helped bring down dangerous criminals... - jimbasil - 9:26am 12/17/18
- I think there is a misunderstanding here - Mark - 9:13am 12/17/18
  - They threatened to take down his son if he didn't though. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:27pm 12/17/18
    - Correct, because his son also broke the law. - LanceHarbor - 1:35pm 12/17/18
      - He said whatever they wanted him to say to save his son. Extortion does not lend itself to veracity. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 4:22pm 12/17/18
    - I don't know about that - Mark - 1:22pm 12/17/18
      - So, I've been interviewed several times by the FBI on behalf of clients... - NedoftheHill - 2:14pm 12/17/18
        Flynn knew he could have a lawyer present. He knew not to lie. - Chris94 - 3:34pm 12/17/18
        If you are going to ignore my post, why do you post under my post? - NedoftheHill - 3:43pm 12/17/18
        Do you think Flynn knew that? - Chris94 - 3:49pm 12/17/18
        I think he thought he was innocent of illegal collusion, and would not be prosecuted. - NedoftheHill - 4:02pm 12/17/18
        He shouldn't have lied about his contacts with the Russians. He's a felon. Full stop. - Chris94 - 4:05pm 12/17/18
        And yet, you don't lobby for prison for the Dem felons in the HRC investigations. - NedoftheHill - 4:13pm 12/17/18
        Which Dem felons? - LanceHarbor - 4:22pm 12/17/18
        The ones who "lied their ass off" in the FBI interview (direct quote from FBI). - NedoftheHill - 4:29pm 12/17/18
        Link? [NT] - LanceHarbor - 4:32pm 12/17/18
        Found this for you. [LINK] - NedoftheHill - 7:37pm 12/17/18
  - I think you had it correct on your first take. Issa doesn't understand the distinction. [LINK] - jimbasil - 9:20am 12/17/18
- It’s not a revelation. It’s an opinion from a GOP congressman. - Chris94 - 2:27am 12/17/18
  - Multiple members of Mueller’s team have been rebuked for this same activity before. - BaronVonZemo - 6:20am 12/17/18
    - Laughable. You threw away the keys necessary to unlock your open mind a long time ago. - Rooney - 7:54am 12/17/18
      - I see your all ready with your spin. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:28pm 12/17/18
      - You have a gambling problem [NT] - LanceHarbor - 8:26am 12/17/18
        It's my go to analogy for Baron. - Rooney - 8:38am 12/17/18
    - If only Flynn knew not to lie to the FBI! - Chris94 - 7:43am 12/17/18
    - The Merrill convictions were overturned for reasons unrelated to Weismann. - LanceHarbor - 7:30am 12/17/18
      - No, they were because of prosecutorial abuse. members involved are on team Mueller. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:28pm 12/17/18
        Weissmann, as I said. - LanceHarbor - 1:29pm 12/17/18
- "Top Republican" what a joke. In Cleveland the arson cops and insurance company felt he burned down - Rooster - 12:32am 12/17/18
- Mueller 34 Trump 0. And Bobby’s just about to run it up. [NT] - ND521 - 12:10am 12/17/18
- Ha, when I first read this I thought Mueller was found to be - jimbasil - 9:51pm 12/16/18
  - you forgot witness trapper [NT] - Hank the Tank - 11:58pm 12/16/18
    - Is that anything like being a prosecutor? [NT] - jimbasil - 12:37am 12/17/18
- Wow!! I hope Baron’s new standard re confessions comes true! - conorlarkin - 9:07pm 12/16/18
  - Do innocent people sometimes plead guilty to crimes they did not commit? - NedoftheHill - 2:39pm 12/17/18
  - there was no confession [NT] - Hank the Tank - 12:01am 12/17/18
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If sustained, can we win the trade war with China? - iairishcheeks - 12:59pm 12/16/18 (49) [View All]
- How do you define “win”? If you mean get some IP concessions, maybe. If you mean substantial change - Frank L - 10:17am 12/17/18
  - I asked the audience to define "win" as a part of their answer... [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:19pm 12/17/18
    - Whelp, I did answer it then. [NT] - Frank L - 12:42pm 12/17/18
      - Something to do with North Korea? [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:49pm 12/17/18
        The results of both situations may well end up - Frank L - 1:32pm 12/17/18
- Who are "we?" Silicon Valley does not consider itself "American" but rather global. - Curly1918 - 9:30am 12/17/18
- We have been in a trade war for them for twenty years, and lost badly - Hank Scorpio - 10:59pm 12/16/18
- In case you are wondering why I haven't answered, it is because I have no idea what the answer is. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:19pm 12/16/18
- No one wins trade wars - Chris94 - 3:56pm 12/16/18
  - Would you say noone wins regular wars because there are costs? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:06pm 12/16/18
    - Trade wars are not regular wars. [NT] - Chris94 - 2:43am 12/17/18
      - Nice dodge. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:01pm 12/17/18
    - Nope. Up through WWII there were winners and losers [NT] - CC72 - 11:40pm 12/16/18
  - im generally for full fair and open trade, but china’s theft of US IP must be addressed. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 4:02pm 12/16/18
    - Explain how they are stealing US IP, and how you would stop it. [NT] - LehighND - 5:03pm 12/16/18
      - Do you really need this explained to you? [NT] - Hank Scorpio - 10:57pm 12/16/18
        You are useless. [NT] - LehighND - 12:42pm 12/17/18
      - Don't know if these are what Trump is getting at, but here is my experience. - NedoftheHill - 5:37pm 12/16/18
        Good stuff. Some replies. - LehighND - 1:22pm 12/17/18
        Follow up. - NedoftheHill - 8:38pm 12/17/18
        Thanks. That's good stuff. - LehighND - 2:23pm 12/18/18
        
        Trump already scuttled a trans Asia trade deal. Leaving China the winner. [NT] - Frank L - 9:58pm 12/17/18
        I think he's shown a willingness to revisit trade deals and make them better. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:02pm 12/17/18
        He’s shown more ability to fuck up those deals. Just stupid to pull out of that Pacific deal. [NT] - Frank L - 11:08pm 12/17/18
        Outline why that was bad? Do you think NAFTA2 is also bad? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 12:55am 12/18/18
        Bad, because it would have provided a trading bloc counterpart to China in Asia with us at the head - Frank L - 10:05am 12/18/18
        
        can’t go on better than that. i also know from personal experience at a former - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:22pm 12/16/18
        Yes, their courts generally ignore decisions of courts outside of China. - NedoftheHill - 9:54pm 12/16/18
- The Chinese are a closed society and right now do not create anything - Curly1918 - 3:36pm 12/16/18
  - Where in the world did you come up with such a bizarre notion? [NT] - LehighND - 5:02pm 12/16/18
    - Creativity only thrives in an environment of an open exchange of information - Curly1918 - 9:27am 12/17/18
  - They actually create lots of things. [NT] - Chris94 - 3:56pm 12/16/18
    - I opened this post expecting to see a list of recent Chinese creations [NT] - Curly1918 - 9:21am 12/17/18
    - Yes, but his point still has merit. - NedoftheHill - 10:17pm 12/16/18
- Unfortunately, no - CC72 - 3:36pm 12/16/18
- It seems so, but I've asked in the past for specifics of what people consider victory. - LehighND - 1:57pm 12/16/18
  - I don't know what needs to be done, but I know Dems & GOP want the status quo, which isn't working. - NedoftheHill - 10:25pm 12/16/18
    - I think any reasonable person would agree with that. - LehighND - 8:07pm 12/17/18
    - What you regularly fail to take in account is that the “change” may even be worse. Czarist Russia - Frank L - 4:28pm 12/17/18
      - I do take that into account, but I think GOP & Dem policies are taking us to worse places already. - NedoftheHill - 8:46pm 12/17/18
        Those policies have also created some of the greatest peacetime prosperity for the West. - Frank L - 9:53pm 12/17/18
        And now squandering that. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 11:03pm 12/17/18
        So what’s he replacing it with that’s better? Outline the policy and why it’s better. [NT] - Frank L - 11:08pm 12/17/18
        You haven't been following him? How about correcting trade imbalances and repealing regulations. - NedoftheHill - 12:37am 12/18/18
        At what cost correcting trade imbalances, to what demonstrable benefit? - Frank L - 8:54am 12/18/18
        "Repealing regulation is a standard R message"...that the R's never make good on. - NedoftheHill - 9:57am 12/18/18
        The cost is going to be a slowdown of the economy. How big is the question. - Frank L - 10:14am 12/18/18
        Bubble is bursting anyway. Looking pretty grim right now. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 5:06pm 12/18/18
  - disagree. adherence to WTO courts would be a win. additionally, - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:19pm 12/16/18
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Interesting article on US/China trade issues and how they resemble US/Japan trade issues in the 80's [LINK] - Iggle - 10:31am 12/16/18 (0) [View All]
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Nixon, Clinton and Trump [LINK] - Curly1918 - 9:52am 12/16/18 (15) [View All]
- Yeah, we heard the same linear thinking about Diaper Don, a strong economy (supposedly strong) and.. - ND1IRISH - 8:32pm 12/17/18
- And what is that Health Care Fix you see? [NT] - jimbasil - 3:14pm 12/16/18
  - working now with a number of Canadians, and there have been many - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:36pm 12/16/18
    - You're already paying taxes for HC in the US. - jimbasil - 7:57am 12/17/18
      - It's always easy to see why you are such a douche bag. Almost immediately you go to Fox News and qu - WestCoastIrishFan - 10:11am 12/17/18
        - 1 US dollar = 1.34 Canadian dollars. - jimbasil - 12:15pm 12/17/18
        You're reviewing their system in a vacuum. Taxes on most canadian items are sky high. The fact 1 d - WestCoastIrishFan - 4:38pm 12/17/18
        No, no I'm not - No vacuum when your post tells us all the Canadians shop here in the US becuase - jimbasil - 4:53pm 12/17/18
  - Obamacare eligibility for all children, eligibility for Medicare for everyone... - Curly1918 - 3:31pm 12/16/18
    - Single Payer? - jimbasil - 4:33pm 12/16/18
      - Not possible without tight immigration control which Dems oppose. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 8:17pm 12/16/18
        I know... sigh. [NT] - Curly1918 - 9:32am 12/17/18
        Sigh [NT] - jimbasil - 12:52pm 12/17/18
        
        Just so you understand - we pay for those who cannot pay or do not pay for HC in the US - jimbasil - 7:10am 12/17/18
        
        I don't know why these morons don't grasp this. - jakers - 8:48pm 12/16/18
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Cruel Border Agents dump out water left for migrants! [LINK] - jakers - 9:30am 12/16/18 (3) [View All]
- Why did Obama hate the brown man? [NT] - Domer From Hell - 3:09pm 12/16/18
  - Is there really any legitimate explanation for xenophobia like that? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:32pm 12/16/18
- That's from seven years ago. [NT] - LehighND - 1:58pm 12/16/18
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Cool Charles Barkley story: [NT] [LINK] - MAS - 9:41pm 12/15/18 (2) [View All]
- Barkley is a class act. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:50pm 12/16/18
- Saw him playing at some charity golf thing in the 90's - Iggle - 10:37am 12/16/18
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Will Zinke take his horse with him? [NT] - golfernot - 9:27pm 12/15/18 (1) [View All]
- That depends, was the horse in the swamp with him? [NT] - Rooster - 11:51pm 12/15/18
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What does a post Trump America look like to you? - iairishcheeks - 1:42pm 12/15/18 (22) [View All]
- Flyover country will be like Scotland in 1287. - LehighND - 3:06pm 12/16/18
  - This is pretty good. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 9:09am 12/17/18
- Like an alcoholic in recovery. [NT] - Frank L - 11:25am 12/16/18
  - I could see this. [NT] [LINK] - iairishcheeks - 12:55pm 12/16/18
- Depends on if he wins a second term. [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 11:51pm 12/15/18
  - K, give me both scenarios. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 12:55pm 12/16/18
- Convulsing liberals in the streets going through TDS outrage withdrawal. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:19pm 12/15/18
- Very shaky economically, and intimidated by the foreign countries, unless another strong republican - THEISMANCARR - 6:28pm 12/15/18
  - Yes strong man rule always works. Ask W and Vice. [NT] - Frank L - 12:26pm 12/16/18
  - I concur. Most of the Dem candidates are wimps! - Curly1918 - 6:51pm 12/15/18
  - We will be unstoppable after his third term. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:36pm 12/15/18
    - These are End Times! [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:20pm 12/15/18
- More importantly, what does the world look like with Europe falling apart? - Curly1918 - 6:05pm 12/15/18
  - What a mess. If only it were as well put together as it was most of last century before the EU. - LehighND - 3:08pm 12/16/18
    - No kidding. What could go wrong with all that nationalistic populism? [NT] - Frank L - 5:17pm 12/16/18
- A month of 24/7 celebration. - golfernot - 4:25pm 12/15/18
  - How long do you think it will take to release all the concentration camp prisoners? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 4:54pm 12/15/18
- Hmmm. [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 1:47pm 12/15/18
  - Is that the Damnation Alley vehicle? - MAS - 2:23pm 12/15/18
    - The Ark II...from 1970's Saturday morning TV. [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 2:53pm 12/15/18
      - I remember that one. Good find. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 7:19pm 12/15/18
      - Damnation Alley used the Landmaster. - MAS - 3:30pm 12/15/18
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Down goes ObamaCare! [LINK] - BaronVonZemo - 12:42am 12/15/18 (33) [View All]
- In comes the Public Option or Single Payer - jimbasil - 4:42pm 12/15/18
- Side note: That really was a great call by Howard Cosell - NedoftheHill - 3:17pm 12/15/18
- No worries. Orange has promised us great health care for everyone. [NT] - golfernot - 1:33pm 12/15/18
  - Perhaps he can cut taxes more and we'll grow ourselves out of disease and dying. [NT] - LehighND - 1:51pm 12/16/18
- It’s going to take years to play out, obviously - Chris94 - 11:04am 12/15/18
  - It HAS to be replaced. It was the worst and most devastating piece of legislation in our lives. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:32pm 12/15/18
    - There is no GOP "Replace". The anti-human party could care less. - golfernot - 12:59pm 12/16/18
      - So, you think the GOP is the "anti-human party"? A lot to work with there. - NedoftheHill - 10:29pm 12/16/18
      - The key is how much less. [NT] - iairishcheeks - 2:33pm 12/16/18
    - ....why couldn't Republicans repeal and replace it when they had pres, House and Senate? [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 11:14am 12/16/18
      - Because they are wusses. They rarely repeal goverment growth. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:31pm 12/16/18
      - They didn't really have it with slim margins and pretenders. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 2:45pm 12/16/18
  - The general population does not know how bad Obama care is/was as even - THEISMANCARR - 6:32pm 12/15/18
    - Apparently, neither did Trump or the Republican Congress. - LehighND - 10:13am 12/16/18
- Cheers all around ! T Y for supporting the murder of innocents at child detention centers too ! [NT] - ND521 - 10:50am 12/15/18
  - You forgot to mention that the innocent child was “brown.” - Curly1918 - 11:47am 12/15/18
    - Skin color does not matter to me. Blind support for Trump's immoral actions does matter. [NT] - ND521 - 11:54am 12/15/18
      - Who enacted these “immoral” laws that Trump is enforcing ? [NT] - Curly1918 - 3:52pm 12/15/18
        The Dems could have repealed those laws, but they didn't. They used to support those laws. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 10:32pm 12/16/18
        
        Wow. A very compelling moral argument you make. The world could learn so much from you. [NT] - ND1IRISH - 4:22pm 12/15/18
- Sorry BVZ, until SCOTUS decides this doesn't mean anything. [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 10:02am 12/15/18
  - It means a lot, don’t fool yourself. - BaronVonZemo - 9:27pm 12/15/18
- A Federal Judge in Texas is the flip side of one in California - Curly1918 - 9:42am 12/15/18
- Yes I love it by daughter's premium went up $281 a month with a deductible of $7900 for - THEISMANCARR - 8:22am 12/15/18
  - Obamacare was implemented in stages. The final version is horrific. - BaronVonZemo - 8:58am 12/15/18
    - Feels like we are all pretending that it isn't difficult to find a doctor accepting new patients. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:33am 12/16/18
    - Couple thoughts - Hibakusha - 9:35pm 12/15/18
      - Did the Japan bomb posts bring you back? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:32am 12/16/18
    - So you must be deeply disappointed that GOP did not fix it over past 2 years? [NT] - conorlarkin - 9:20am 12/15/18
      - Yes. So Trump did what was necessary. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 9:21pm 12/15/18
        What was necessary was to fix replace it with something better. Trump failed spectacularly. - LehighND - 1:50pm 12/16/18
      - I am disappointed that we did not get a bipartisan fix [NT] - Curly1918 - 10:00am 12/15/18
        maybe now there will have to be one [NT] - irish93 - 10:55am 12/15/18
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Got a 4K TV, and now everything looks fake on TV. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:18pm 12/14/18 (6) [View All]
- What did you get? [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 7:39am 12/17/18
- Is is cheaper than cataract surgery? I’m expecting a huge improvement after mine [NT] - Curly1918 - 12:05am 12/15/18
  - Both eyes? - WoodstockIrish - 7:37am 12/17/18
  - Oh plus the fact that marijuana is now legal here in Michigan - Curly1918 - 12:05am 12/15/18
- You are not alone. - conorlarkin - 10:03pm 12/14/18
  - It's pretty awesome - WoodstockIrish - 7:38am 12/17/18
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ok mama say's it's "cold outside" and she needs some snuggles.... - rhollis - 6:49pm 12/14/18 (1) [View All]
- todays man drinks tea while taking a bath and reading elle [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:32pm 12/14/18
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we dropped the A bomb on the JAPS, that was a good thing = ) DO YOU DISAGREE ???? - rhollis - 6:45pm 12/14/18 (8) [View All]
- I’m biased... my dad was a naval aviator in the Pacific. - Curly1918 - 12:10am 12/15/18
  - The Japanese were (and still are) the most militaristic civilian society in the world. - NedoftheHill - 1:40pm 12/15/18
    - Yeah, I agree. - Frank L - 3:12pm 12/15/18
    - Re: The Japanese were (and still are) the most militaristic civilian society in the world. - irishscooter - 2:14pm 12/15/18
      - No. The part of the militarism that I love is their sense of duty to others...that is what I respect - NedoftheHill - 1:25am 12/16/18
        After the war, the PM, Tojo, and the Lord Privy Seal, Kido took full responsibility for it to - Frank L - 4:38pm 12/17/18
        Exactly. That's Japan for you. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 9:42pm 12/17/18
        
        ^ [NT] - Frank L - 4:38pm 12/17/18
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amerika sucks... - rhollis - 6:40pm 12/14/18 (1) [View All]
- Commie. Merica’s the bestest in a bigly way. [NT] - Frank L - 4:00pm 12/15/18
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Defy the judge's order, refuse to turn over original 302. Strzok 302 used to charge Flynn was - Eli - 6:07pm 12/14/18 (5) [View All]
- Eli would sooner fuck his daughters dead body than to admit how wrong... - ND1IRISH - 10:01pm 12/14/18
- Why was a floor of the DC Circuit closed today ? Why didn't Judge Katsas join the en banc hearing ? [NT] - ND521 - 7:29pm 12/14/18
- Give it a rest, Putin [NT] - Chris94 - 6:14pm 12/14/18
  - Do you always feel so insecure like this? Get over it. [NT] - Eli - 6:44pm 12/14/18
    - Glad you're still able to jerk off as Trump circles the drain. [NT] - ND521 - 7:31pm 12/14/18
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jimbasil you don't know shit, the best bad dude is ~~~ - rhollis - 5:49pm 12/14/18 (3) [View All]
- My bad... I thought that jimbasil was the king of ad hominem attacks - Curly1918 - 11:56pm 12/14/18
  - I think you missed the point of his exchange. [NT] - jimbasil - 1:32am 12/15/18
- Soylent Green is people - jimbasil - 8:51pm 12/14/18
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MCGA! [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 4:58pm 12/14/18 (7) [View All]
- loser.. i married 36 years to the woman i love... wtf do you know, loser !!! O~~~ - rhollis - 5:46pm 12/14/18
  - Congrats man! [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:30pm 12/14/18
    - i feel sad for america... - rhollis - 6:34pm 12/14/18
      - Truth. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:43pm 12/14/18
- Me Too! [NT] [IMAGE] - conorlarkin - 5:01pm 12/14/18
  - but I’ll be happier if she’s a hoover [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:35pm 12/14/18
    - Truth in Advertising!! [NT] - conorlarkin - 12:16pm 12/15/18
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"You can make anything a crime under the current laws if you want to".---Orrin Hatch. - golfernot - 4:16pm 12/14/18 (10) [View All]
- So much for the law and order party. - ND_in_DRO - 10:06am 12/15/18
  - Heh. You only like prosecutorial discretion when the Dems use it? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:39am 12/16/18
  - Heh. Also, use to be the party of fiscal responsibility. [NT] - Frank L - 3:52pm 12/15/18
- We attorneys always knew this is the case... - Curly1918 - 12:00am 12/15/18
- Hatch is a blithering, whiny old fool. That old fuck needs a good shit pasting... - ND1IRISH - 9:56pm 12/14/18
- No fool like an old fool. [NT] - ND521 - 7:26pm 12/14/18
- "Three Felonies a Day" ... get your copy now for Christmas. [NT] [LINK] [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 6:36pm 12/14/18
- From the book of mormon? [NT] - golfkrzy - 5:13pm 12/14/18
  - You misspelled moron. [NT] - Frank L - 5:19pm 12/14/18
- He and his repubs certainly know that to be true. [NT] - jimbasil - 4:30pm 12/14/18
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Does anyone here believe Michael Cohen? [NT] - jimbasil - 3:07pm 12/14/18 (22) [View All]
- I do... today. But not yesterday. And probably not tomorrow. [NT] - Curly1918 - 12:02am 12/15/18
- fuck no !!! - rhollis - 6:31pm 12/14/18
- For the most part, yes. [NT] - Frank L - 4:04pm 12/14/18
- I believe he taped lots of his conversations - Chris94 - 3:38pm 12/14/18
- Just go ahead to impeach Trump, indict Trump. Don't act like a paper tiger, just do it. [NT] - Eli - 3:21pm 12/14/18
  - Patience grasshopper. All in good time when teed up. [NT] - Frank L - 5:21pm 12/14/18
    - If they had the evidence required to support the strength of your beliefs they'd have done it by now [NT] - NedoftheHill - 6:38pm 12/14/18
      - They likely can’t indict a sitting prez. The ability to impeach rises and falls on the special - Frank L - 11:45pm 12/14/18
        I don't know what evidence they have. But, you act as if you do, which was my point. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 1:40am 12/16/18
        I was commenting on the usual stupid statement of Eli. Why would anyone do that before the report? - Frank L - 12:24pm 12/17/18
    - Trump should be removed if shown to be criminally unfit. - Frank L - 5:23pm 12/14/18
      - Belongs below in response to golfer. [NT] - Frank L - 5:24pm 12/14/18
  - Both will happen. Everyone knows it is coming. [NT] - conorlarkin - 4:55pm 12/14/18
  - Then, you're saying you do believe Cohen and that Trump is the big liar in all this? [NT] - jimbasil - 3:39pm 12/14/18
    - I'm saying let action speak, no more BS. [NT] - Eli - 3:53pm 12/14/18
      - Oh, you believe Trump. [NT] - jimbasil - 3:56pm 12/14/18
  - Patience, comrade. [NT] - Chris94 - 3:38pm 12/14/18
    - Of course. Please focus all your energy and time to impeach/indict Trump. The longer, the better. [NT] - Eli - 3:55pm 12/14/18
      - You'd be surprised at how little energy and time I am devoting to impeach/indict Trump. [NT] - Chris94 - 4:41pm 12/14/18
        You'd not be surprised to know you have most impeachment posts on board since Trump presidency - Eli - 5:33pm 12/14/18
        
        Because of Pence? [NT] - golfkrzy - 5:12pm 12/14/18
- Sure, when corroborated by texts, e-mails and/or tapes. [NT] - ND521 - 3:17pm 12/14/18
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Has anyone done any tax planning to see the impact of the - irishscooter - 2:56pm 12/14/18 (24) [View All]
- I qualified for the EITC last year - MarkHarman - 9:25pm 12/15/18
- Mine should be lower. - iairishcheeks - 1:18pm 12/15/18
- Best I can tell my federal taxv burden dropped $4K. [NT] - NDavenue - 9:34pm 12/14/18
- My Fed tax went down about $140 a month, but I don’t live in ... - CC72 - 7:45pm 12/14/18
  - I feel bad that you had 140 fewer chances to be patriotic. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 8:11pm 12/14/18
  - Good for you [NT] - irishscooter - 7:52pm 12/14/18
- Surprise surprise surprise!............Gomer Pyle [NT] - golfkrzy - 5:17pm 12/14/18
- The limitation (cap) on the state and local tax deduction is a killer - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 4:13pm 12/14/18
  - Bingo. Don’tcha love your tax cut? - Frank L - 5:19pm 12/14/18
  - NJ is a nightmare - 86domer - 4:22pm 12/14/18
    - Are you a native of NJ? - WoodstockIrish - 7:44am 12/17/18
    - Smacking me hard and I am in Virginia [NT] - irishscooter - 5:04pm 12/14/18
      - On the plus side, I think I will miss the AMT this year as the criteria has increased. - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 5:10pm 12/14/18
        my AMT differential is very tight as well. [NT] - irishscooter - 5:27pm 12/14/18
    - Hear you on that - Shadow_of_the_Dome - 4:58pm 12/14/18
      - You are spot on - 86domer - 5:53pm 12/14/18
- First of all corporations get taxed twice once at the corporate level and once at the individual - THEISMANCARR - 3:23pm 12/14/18
  - The 10,000 limitation really sucks and has a significant negative impact. [NT] - irishscooter - 5:01pm 12/14/18
- What have you found out? [NT] - NedoftheHill - 3:08pm 12/14/18
  - they are taxing the American dream into a nightmare. [NT] - irishscooter - 5:02pm 12/14/18
    - Wait, so you oppose higher taxes, and support lower taxes? Good to hear. [NT] - NedoftheHill - 7:18pm 12/14/18
      - What’s funny is you think this is a party issue. It doesn’t take much - irishscooter - 7:51pm 12/14/18
        Well, every time the GOP wants to lower taxes, the Dems get upset. That's what tricked me. - NedoftheHill - 8:12pm 12/14/18
  - Irishscooter refuses to release his tax returns! [NT] - iairishcheeks - 4:04pm 12/14/18
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Own your vote, cesspool lovers! [NT] [LINK] - conorlarkin - 2:09pm 12/14/18 (5) [View All]
- A negative piece on Trump from WaPo?! When did he lose them! [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 12:31am 12/15/18
- Wahoo!! [NT] [IMAGE] - NedoftheHill - 7:09pm 12/14/18
- Apparently replacing a swamp with a cesspool is very expensive. [NT] - ND521 - 3:15pm 12/14/18
- The corruption of the presidency started on the very first day - Chris94 - 2:32pm 12/14/18
  - the very first day of the campaign and then throughout the campaign - irishscooter - 3:07pm 12/14/18

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