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UPDATED 8/16: Notre Dame Fall Camp 2019 Players of the Day [LINK] - UHND - 11:59am 8/11/19 (0) [View All]
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Book's ascendance last year was coincident with Dexter William's return............ - BaronVonZemo - 4:06pm 9/30/19 (6) [View All]
- Zackly. If we had a game changing RB who is a threat to score - faircatchcorby - 9:59pm 9/30/19
  - A Dexter would help. But the lack of one doesn't explain Book's bad reads and bad throws. [NT] - Napoleon - 9:48am 10/1/19
- Book is definitely not playing to the level he played last year but on Saturday Javon McKinney - THEISMANCARR - 9:44pm 9/30/19
- Tyree is going to be 170 pounds when he reports and might play on 3rd downs if at all. [NT] - holybull101 - 4:15pm 9/30/19
  - Eye roll. I guess we are all doomed. [NT] - BaronVonZemo - 6:19pm 9/30/19
  - Doubt that. I bet he plays early and often. - NDavenue - 4:47pm 9/30/19
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To those knocking Ian Book - Clem - 2:49pm 9/30/19 (41) [View All]
- Golson not being good in 2014 is revisionist history - NDNEIL - 10:00pm 9/30/19
  - He was not just good, - Clem - 5:43am 10/1/19
- Looking at year 1 vs two it appears Kelly introduces a level of complexity for QBs that is total - oldirish - 8:20pm 9/30/19
- He - WoodstockIrish - 5:03pm 9/30/19
  - Totally agree on Ian, - Clem - 5:19pm 9/30/19
    - Golson wasn't elite - NDNEIL - 9:55pm 9/30/19
      - Disagree, Golson absolutely had elite ability. - Clem - 5:47am 10/1/19
        Being elite requires you display ability on Saturday's not on paper. [NT] - oldirish - 8:31pm 10/1/19
        Didn't say he was an elite QB. - Clem - 8:39am 10/2/19
        You can't have elite ability if it's never displayed. This is true for many reasons but the most - oldirish - 10:11pm 10/2/19
        Not gonna argue semantics with ya, - Clem - 4:06pm 10/3/19
    - How come none of these QBs benefited from personal coaches or succeeded in the NFL? [NT] - CC72 - 6:57pm 9/30/19
      - Those two things are the key indicators they were more overrated than good. [NT] - oldirish - 8:05pm 9/30/19
        Yes [NT] - CC72 - 8:18pm 9/30/19
- Being observant of Book's inability to throw deep and piss poor reads aren't knocks, they're facts. [NT] - Jerseymick - 3:19pm 9/30/19
  - Served your team well when he replaced - Clem - 3:26pm 9/30/19
    - You guessed wrong hun, but nice try. [NT] - Jerseymick - 9:31am 10/1/19
    - ^^^^^This^^^^^ [NT] - oldirish - 8:06pm 9/30/19
    - Book starting to resemble Wimbush in several ways. He was a 3 star backup that’s not progressing to - whatsamataU - 5:22pm 9/30/19
      - The case is certainly building that ND has a real development problem in the Kelly era re: QBs. [NT] - Napoleon - 9:16am 10/2/19
      - Wimbush was a four-star - Mark - 5:49pm 9/30/19
        Who's sitting on the bench at a MAC school. [NT] - oldirish - 8:08pm 9/30/19
        Correction- he is sitting on the bench at an AAC school - CC72 - 8:22pm 9/30/19
        I don't know if Gabriel was on ND's radar, but he was a well-regarded recruit. Offers from UGA and - Napoleon - 9:08am 10/2/19
        
        To be fair, - Clem - 5:53am 10/1/19
        Also to be fair: he was the starter, lost his job to injury and the kid who replaced him has done - Napoleon - 11:52am 10/1/19
        BW got the job because of injury. If the injury excuse makes you feel better, okay; I guess. [NT] - oldirish - 8:33pm 10/1/19
        Not making an excuse. Pointing out a fact. - Napoleon - 9:04am 10/2/19
        It's fact he did not outright win the battle. He won by default due to injury. If he'd truly won he - oldirish - 10:16pm 10/2/19
        That is false. - Napoleon - 10:35pm 10/2/19
        
        Also, what does that tell us about the ND radar? [NT] - oldirish - 8:38pm 9/30/19
        
        It's still the MAC. I know it's the AAC, but it's not big time. Granted they are pretty good. [NT] - oldirish - 8:37pm 9/30/19
    - Re: Served your team well when he replaced [NT] - Clem - 3:27pm 9/30/19
- Agree. Let's knock whoever's responsible for his development. [NT] - humbaba - 3:19pm 9/30/19
  - Hard not to after numerous QB's - Clem - 3:37pm 9/30/19
  - Or his recruitment, Southern Cal and half the Pac12 gets a guy that can throw every single year [NT] - holybull101 - 3:35pm 9/30/19
    - It's hard to get it wrong that many times. It's definitely coaching. [NT] - oldirish - 8:10pm 9/30/19
- none of them could start at other major programs. Just look at how - irishscooter - 3:05pm 9/30/19
- Except Golson couldn't start elsewhere so whose fault was it there? I think - Scottbrown5555 - 2:53pm 9/30/19
  - Golson started most of his season at FSU. - Napoleon - 9:14am 10/2/19
  - You don't need a future NFL QB - Clem - 3:15pm 9/30/19
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Is Armstrong on track to return for the SC game? [NT] - primo - 2:01pm 9/30/19 (0) [View All]
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Question about the Notre Dame offensive scheme - 565 Zahm Hall - 1:27pm 9/30/19 (1) [View All]
- The last time Kelly had success with his offense was with a 6'6" statue that could make every throw - holybull101 - 1:58pm 9/30/19
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I think Kelly will need to take a hard look at his offensive staff in the off season. [NT] - garryowen - 9:30am 9/30/19 (23) [View All]
- The only thing that is going to help the offense is a new head coach - D2 - 11:36am 9/30/19
  - This year it's the QB - Mark - 11:54am 9/30/19
    - This is nonsense. - Clem - 5:03pm 9/30/19
      - It’s weird, though. In his final season at Cincy, he did change his offense to fit his QB. - Napoleon - 10:47pm 10/2/19
      - You are correct. Bama got rid of one when they brought in another 5 star. Now both are currently - whatsamataU - 5:29pm 9/30/19
      - There's only a handful of very good teams every season, people see that this team is on the cusp of - holybull101 - 5:18pm 9/30/19
    - Why did he start recruiting small QBs when he got to ND? Tony Pike was 6'6" and never rushed - holybull101 - 1:46pm 9/30/19
      - Collaros was 6'0 and ran well. [NT] - Napoleon - 9:26am 10/2/19
      - Kizer and Crist ended up the same way as - Clem - 3:46pm 9/30/19
        That's a lack of development, without an arm like Golson or Kizer, the defenses can stack the box - holybull101 - 3:55pm 9/30/19
        Taller guys have stronger arms? Is that true? - Napoleon - 9:43am 10/2/19
      - building on this point, Kelly really should be recruiting pure drop back passers, because he's never - WestCoastIrishFan - 1:58pm 9/30/19
    - It's always the qb but it never really is - D2 - 12:54pm 9/30/19
      - Don't forget that Kelly has also sabotaged himself with QBs in the past, the only time he had good - holybull101 - 1:34pm 9/30/19
      - What D2 said.... [NT] - eftg1 - 1:01pm 9/30/19
    - The point is then why can’t he get a QB to run his offense? None of them progress. They all regress. - Frank L - 12:53pm 9/30/19
      - Kizer probably was the best, because he threw a great deep ball. Kelly's offense in based on - WestCoastIrishFan - 3:57pm 9/30/19
    - your post could be a repeat from pretty much every year the last decade. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 12:31pm 9/30/19
- maybe you should take a class on football knowledge [NT] - DonMiller - 11:12am 9/30/19
- Why? It's Kelly that has the track record of not developing QBs, Jacob Eason was the final - holybull101 - 11:03am 9/30/19
  - Eason wanted to start early, He saw Winbush as a roadblock that he didn't think he could beat so he - MrP - 12:59pm 9/30/19
    - There are only about 3 elite QBs in every class, the rest need to be developed - holybull101 - 1:30pm 9/30/19
- Why? [NT] - bakedogg - 10:48am 9/30/19
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5 Things I Didn't Like in Notre Dame's Win Over #18 Virginia [NT] [LINK] - UHND - 9:07am 9/30/19 (0) [View All]
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Grading The Notre Dame Defense Against Virginia: Hint, They Passed! [NT] [LINK] - UHND - 8:25am 9/30/19 (2) [View All]
- special teams had more positives than a D, I would say a low B [NT] - DonMiller - 11:13am 9/30/19
  - They turned the ball over twice, a D was very generous [NT] - holybull101 - 3:47pm 9/30/19
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Any Update on Kevin Austin Availability * [NT] - pigoletto - 11:09pm 9/29/19 (3) [View All]
- Out for the season [NT] - ND_in_DRO - 9:01am 9/30/19
- If you don't see him in game 5 then you won't until next season (hope he stays) [NT] - IrishBarry - 8:46am 9/30/19
- It's not going to help, Austin needs to go downfield, but the QB can't throw that far. [NT] - holybull101 - 11:20pm 9/29/19
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Big if but if we win out we would be 33-5 ( before bowl or playoff ) in last three years - salbam - 9:56pm 9/29/19 (26) [View All]
- That wasn't "revised." - Napoleon - 11:55am 10/1/19
  - Ok I agree with your point,Why are the epic failures against every top 10 team glossed over? [NT] - eftg1 - 12:16pm 10/1/19
    - I agree with you on that. The only way to favorably compare Kelly to Holtz is to "gloss over" - Napoleon - 10:47am 10/2/19
- I can't wait to win every game -- only to get destroyed in the bowl [NT] - humbaba - 10:27pm 9/29/19
- Nonsense,Holtz won a chip and beat top 10 teams, just Orwellian to compare,tap the brakes.. [NT] - eftg1 - 10:13pm 9/29/19
  - Orwellian? [NT] - Napoleon - 6:15am 9/30/19
    - Orwell novel 1984, Winston's job was revising history, Kelly history revised to not reflect reality [NT] - eftg1 - 11:22am 9/30/19
      - I’ll bite. What has been “revised?” [NT] - Napoleon - 8:47pm 9/30/19
        Kelly record revised to not reflect big game fiasco and Alabama/Clemson major fail [NT] - eftg1 - 9:22am 10/1/19
        That isn’t a “revision.” It isn’t remotely “Orwellian.” - Napoleon - 10:34pm 10/1/19
- So you say Holtz beat a number of top 5 teams and #1 teams but put him on Kelly’s level who has - PBHangingChad - 10:11pm 9/29/19
  - I pointed out that if we win out it is the best 3 year run in 30 years. Just a fact. - salbam - 2:40pm 9/30/19
  - Love Holtz, but ND operated like a big boy program when he was there - NDNEIL - 8:58am 9/30/19
    - This is true. Lou and Vinny had a recruiting shuttle going on that would not be allowed today. - Frank L - 9:30am 9/30/19
      - Honestly, I think all he needs to do is fix the offense. It’s maddening that he won’t.... - NDavenue - 9:45am 9/30/19
        I agree with this - jonpaultoo - 12:42pm 9/30/19
        
        I haven't given up on Long yet - NDNEIL - 12:23pm 9/30/19
        How do we know how much Kelly is sticking his nose in? [NT] - LehighND - 2:30pm 9/30/19
        We don't [NT] - NDNEIL - 7:34pm 9/30/19
        
        Couple things were apparent from around the 40 in the upper bowl. - Frank L - 10:07am 9/30/19
        I don't know where all the offensive angst comes from this last game. - LehighND - 2:29pm 9/30/19
        Maybe because 2 of our tds were scored essentially by the D? - Frank L - 3:08pm 9/30/19
        That's a sign of a great D, not a bad O - LehighND - 6:18pm 9/30/19
        All I can say is maybe experiencing the reality of the game there seemed different from that. - Frank L - 6:45pm 9/30/19
        
        Good observations. [NT] - NDavenue - 10:18am 9/30/19
  - Exactly...the nonsense when Kelly has had major blowouts Alabama/Clemson [NT] - eftg1 - 10:16pm 9/29/19
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AP has ND leapfrogging Florida for #9, Coaches keeps ND at #10. [NT] [LINK] - Jerseymick - 9:30pm 9/29/19 (1) [View All]
- Not to worry, Florida is going to go in reverse real fast - D2 - 1:00pm 9/30/19
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Grading Notre Dame's Uneven Offensive Performance Vs. Virginia [NT] [LINK] - UHND - 8:47pm 9/29/19 (14) [View All]
- The only change with Book is ... - 565 Zahm Hall - 9:52pm 9/29/19
  - Pass blocking has been pretty good all year. [NT] - Clem - 10:35am 9/30/19
  - I disagree - Mark - 9:03am 9/30/19
    - Also when you have a guy like Claypool, take some shot down field even if it’s a 50/50 ball. - Frank L - 9:44am 9/30/19
      - There are opportunities available with Claypool that are much better than 50/50 - Rocket91 - 10:04am 9/30/19
        No doubt. Because he’s flushed before the route is there, [NT] - Frank L - 10:09am 9/30/19
        That's part of it, but a lot of the time he just isn't looking for him - Rocket91 - 11:18am 9/30/19
        Yeah, because he locks onto 3 receivers in an order of preference FInke, Claypool, then Kmet - holybull101 - 1:39pm 9/30/19
        
        Come on, half the time he waits 3 seconds and flushes himself out even where there's no pressure [NT] - holybull101 - 10:54am 9/30/19
        Agree. Should say feels flushed. [NT] - Frank L - 12:55pm 9/30/19
  - Happy feet jumping out of the pocket to early and missing open receivers is the line fault? [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:51am 9/30/19
  - The opponents now have lots of game film on Book. [NT] - holybull101 - 11:22pm 9/29/19
- On point, especially re: Book. Same mistakes he made last year. [NT] - Jerseymick - 9:38pm 9/29/19
  - Kelly wants to work on his short passing like Wimbush to fluff up his numbers a little. [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:58am 9/30/19
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Crowd was loud and into the game Saturday. The tron board helped out a lot replaying clips of the - Frank L - 8:02pm 9/29/19 (5) [View All]
- Do they still honor someone during every TV timeout? [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 9:12pm 9/29/19
  - UGA had a million former players being honored during every timeout. Even worse than us [NT] - IrishBarry - 9:14am 9/30/19
  - Did you not hear your name being called? [NT] - whatsamataU - 8:56am 9/30/19
    - Still don’t get the tron hatred. Replays are great and at least Saturday it juiced up the crowd. [NT] - Frank L - 9:05am 9/30/19
  - Yep.......sigh. [NT] - Frank L - 10:44pm 9/29/19
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Best we can hope for from BK and JS on our way back to chamionships - jrdjr84 - 7:43pm 9/29/19 (3) [View All]
- FACTS. Agree across the board. [NT] - bwnotredame06 - 9:39am 10/1/19
- Our coaching staff is excellent. [NT] - joeconnell - 11:00pm 9/29/19
- Our coaching staff is absolutely elite. We were the second best team in the country last year. - tky21 - 9:37pm 9/29/19
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Irish open a 45 point favorite vs BGSU [NT] - DonMiller - 6:49pm 9/29/19 (1) [View All]
- Take the points. [NT] - UMND - 6:56pm 9/29/19
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Derrik Allen, Shayne Simon and Houston Griffith... - NDavenue - 5:31pm 9/29/19 (9) [View All]
- Griffin sort of position-less right now - D2 - 8:40pm 9/29/19
  - That's what made me think of them. With Crawford's injury... - NDavenue - 8:59pm 9/29/19
    - It's been one day dude - D2 - 11:31pm 9/29/19
- Allen transferred to GT - ND_in_DRO - 6:59pm 9/29/19
  - Wow. How did I miss that? Thanks for the info. [NT] - NDavenue - 8:56pm 9/29/19
- They are trying to recruit better kids every year, so kids can get - holybull101 - 5:36pm 9/29/19
  - Sure, but lower “star” guys are playing. Rankings are a bit of a crap shoot, but.... - NDavenue - 6:12pm 9/29/19
    - I'm a broken record on Stars. They're a pointless revenue thing. We make way too big a deal over it. [NT] - oldirish - 9:23pm 9/29/19
    - Yup... [NT] - eftg1 - 6:16pm 9/29/19
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Notre Dame Gets Good News on Shaun Crawford Injury [NT] [LINK] - UHND - 5:09pm 9/29/19 (0) [View All]
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Assessing the Impact of Notre Dame Losing Daelin Hayes for 2019 Season [NT] [LINK] - UHND - 4:24pm 9/29/19 (0) [View All]
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How bad is Nebraska football? They look like Illinois [NT] - DonMiller - 4:04pm 9/29/19 (8) [View All]
- Temple beat Georgia Tech 24-2 - knuterockne13 - 10:09pm 9/29/19
- Who cares? Rather worry about our offense. [NT] - garryowen - 9:32pm 9/29/19
- Looks like they are all in on Frost. Read that they spending a bundle on facilities. - Napoleon - 8:43pm 9/29/19
- Frank Solich is the best coach they had since Osborne. - MAS - 7:42pm 9/29/19
- NE had Richie Icognito and Ndamkong Suh.., - ripperduck - 7:13pm 9/29/19
- A good time to dust off the words of assclown AD Steve Pederson when he fired Solich in 2003 - Nigel Tufnel - 5:24pm 9/29/19
- Last week against Illinois, they had just under 700 yards, held Ill. to less than 300 yards, but won - jrdjr84 - 4:13pm 9/29/19
- Rebuilding for another year. [NT] - whatsamataU - 4:08pm 9/29/19
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Typical Kelly Lethargic game. - robertkolt - 4:04pm 9/29/19 (16) [View All]
- Typical robertkolt crappy. Lou was great when he had the talent. Developed guys and was a great game - Frank L - 9:56am 9/30/19
- need to be able to 'like' a response..shut up bob! [NT] - weisguy19 - 8:52am 9/30/19
- Kelly is the best coach in history and deserves two ND statues [NT] - NDPatrick30 - 8:41pm 9/29/19
- Re: Typical Kelly Lethargic game. - b2runn - 5:47pm 9/29/19
  - Re: Typical Kelly Lethargic game. - kgirish - 9:38am 9/30/19
  - good post [NT] - bill rekles - 8:45pm 9/29/19
  - ^^what he said^^ - Nigel Tufnel - 7:50pm 9/29/19
- Again with the dumbass posts. I don't think you know what "lethargic" means - murph78 - 4:59pm 9/29/19
- Not a millienial, and disappointed by the loss at UGA, but - ND_in_DRO - 4:28pm 9/29/19
- I recall a number of games under Lou where we won the game with defense and/or special teams, when - jrdjr84 - 4:15pm 9/29/19
  - And given everything that is said about his wondrous regime, I do wonder how Saint Lou managed to - lacan - 4:19pm 9/29/19
    - And won a Natty in 88 and was runner up twice in 89 and 93. He won more big games in 88 than BK has - Frank L - 10:49pm 9/29/19
    - Wow...very clueless on the history of both ND and college football [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 5:12pm 9/29/19
      - Sorry, wasn't around to be indoctrinated in the cult of Lou, so 3+ losses in 7 of 11 seasons is 3+ - lacan - 6:34pm 9/29/19
        The fanbase had more confidence in Lou after 1986 then bk in 2018..nuff said [NT] - beefy78 - 9:37pm 9/29/19
        
        then you might want to go read some history books. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 7:50pm 9/29/19
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Irish move up to 9th [NT] - DonMiller - 3:56pm 9/29/19 (0) [View All]
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Daelin Hayes out for the year. [LINK] - lacan - 2:36pm 9/29/19 (12) [View All]
- There goes Jamir Jone's red shirt... [NT] - Jerseymick - 3:45pm 9/29/19
  - Jamir Jones should play a lot [NT] - NDPatrick30 - 6:00pm 9/29/19
  - Might have to burn Foskey's as well - ND_in_DRO - 4:26pm 9/29/19
- That sucks. [NT] - Jerseymick - 3:38pm 9/29/19
- Damn! [NT] - jimbasil - 3:02pm 9/29/19
- can Crawford get a 6th year? [NT] - murph92675 - 2:56pm 9/29/19
  - I know it has been said that he could quite easily get a 6th year because of seasons lost to injury, - lacan - 2:59pm 9/29/19
    - Crawford could have his PhD by the time he leaves. [NT] - NDavenue - 3:56pm 9/29/19
      - That's funny - Irish_Demon - 1:02pm 9/30/19
    - That would help.... I think Gilman could come back also [NT] - murph92675 - 3:01pm 9/29/19
- I don't see any reason why Hayes couldn't red shirt. [NT] - Napoleon - 2:43pm 9/29/19
  - Indeed, Kelly just said that is highly possible [NT] [LINK] - lacan - 2:52pm 9/29/19
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5 Things I Liked in Notre Dame's Defensive Outburst Against Virginia [NT] [LINK] - UHND - 2:17pm 9/29/19 (0) [View All]
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Nothing flashy or great but C'bo may be our best back from the standpoint that he seems to at least - oldirish - 1:31pm 9/29/19 (5) [View All]
- He certainly does run down hill. [NT] - Jerseymick - 3:39pm 9/29/19
  - I agree. We need to see more of it to also change pace as Angry points out below. [NT] - oldirish - 9:26pm 9/29/19
- Jones Jr. is great when he's fresh - AngryMob09 - 2:09pm 9/29/19
  - Yeah, we need a better rotation and C'bo likely should at least get some carries. [NT] - oldirish - 9:26pm 9/29/19
  - A little slow hitting the hole when there is one. [NT] - whatsamataU - 3:23pm 9/29/19
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(No) Running Game - Annual Rant... - SteveM - 1:01pm 9/29/19 (3) [View All]
- Re: (No) Running Game - Annual Rant... - robertkolt - 3:50pm 9/29/19
- I don’t like the Wisconsin comparison. Bama, tOSU, UGA and Clemson all have smash mouth run games. - NDavenue - 2:22pm 9/29/19
- This is my biggest gripe. - Napoleon - 1:40pm 9/29/19
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Where the Irish are....sooooooooooooo close - murph92675 - 12:38pm 9/29/19 (8) [View All]
- How is Pyne that kid? He was an early offer from Kelly [NT] - holybull101 - 5:34pm 9/29/19
  - Re: How is Pyne that kid? He was an early offer from Kelly - murph92675 - 5:50pm 9/29/19
    - Just from Kelly's track record, I'm expecting another Rees/Book type [NT] - holybull101 - 5:56pm 9/29/19
- We are definitely NOT there in terms of WRs. - UMND - 2:16pm 9/29/19
- they need a QB whisperer to run the entire offense. I also think AD is missed at RB coach [NT] - Scottbrown5555 - 1:24pm 9/29/19
  - Re: they need a QB whisperer to run the entire offense. I also think AD is missed at RB coach - garryowen - 1:26pm 9/29/19
    - I hope that isn't the case. I liked the Taylor hire. - Napoleon - 1:52pm 9/29/19
- Think you are right. Book just average and not a difference maker. [NT] - garryowen - 12:41pm 9/29/19
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To the anti BK crowd, I will jump on board if - NDNEIL - 12:22pm 9/29/19 (4) [View All]
- Who kept Book in the game? Can Jurko come in and hand the ball off Troll? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 1:08pm 9/29/19
  - Wrong thread, stay on topic [NT] - NDNEIL - 1:51pm 9/29/19
    - I would put Book on Special Teams [NT] - PBHangingChad - 2:12pm 9/29/19
- If "nothing" drives you more insane... count your blessings. - Curly1918 - 12:32pm 9/29/19
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I just don’t understand why ND can’t recruit QB’s that at least can play in mop up - PBHangingChad - 12:01pm 9/29/19 (22) [View All]
- Hard to put in a mop up QB when QB1 is still a huge WIP. Book's got a lot of work to do. [NT] - Jerseymick - 8:44am 9/30/19
- It is not simple. Lots of variables in that decision. - murph78 - 1:03pm 9/29/19
  - Nope there’s a reason ND doesn’t get the top QB prospects. Parents watch games too. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 1:05pm 9/29/19
    - This came up in another spot. What do you mean by "top QB prospects?" - Napoleon - 1:13pm 9/29/19
      - Why isn’t he playing. Is Book better? [NT] - PBHangingChad - 1:15pm 9/29/19
        I don't know. - Napoleon - 1:17pm 9/29/19
        My point is why are they not developed? If that they are top recruits they should succeed [NT] - PBHangingChad - 1:46pm 9/29/19
        If the bottom line is that they are not developed, the reason is obvious: coaching. - Napoleon - 1:48pm 9/29/19
        They are not developable - CC72 - 4:36pm 9/29/19
        I don’t know if that would make anyone happy. - Napoleon - 7:37pm 9/29/19
- Yesterday's game never reached mop up status - ND_in_DRO - 12:51pm 9/29/19
  - I’m sorry I thought when Jurko came to ND he was better than Book [NT] - PBHangingChad - 1:00pm 9/29/19
    - He's the better prospect for sure. - ND_in_DRO - 4:39pm 9/29/19
    - So did the ND coaches, I assume. So far he isn’t. [NT] - CC72 - 4:37pm 9/29/19
- Book was suppose to be that. [NT] - whatsamataU - 12:48pm 9/29/19
- Troll level 100 [NT] - NDNEIL - 12:12pm 9/29/19
  - You’re the father of a top QB prospect. Do you send him to ND and Kelly? Tell the truth - PBHangingChad - 12:55pm 9/29/19
    - Troll level 200 [NT] - NDNEIL - 1:54pm 9/29/19
      - Seriously what does this prove? [NT] - WoodstockIrish - 8:00pm 9/29/19
    - I dont think he's recruited a top QB yet. Wimbush, book, golson - Scottbrown5555 - 1:18pm 9/29/19
      - I think development is a more apt line than ability to attract "top QB prospects." - Napoleon - 1:35pm 9/29/19
    - Re: You’re the father of a top QB prospect. Do you send him to ND and Kelly? Tell the truth - garryowen - 12:58pm 9/29/19
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Beyond the Boxscore: Notre Dame Goes Old School in Beating Virginia [NT] [LINK] - UHND - 11:02am 9/29/19 (0) [View All]
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Highlights From Notre Dame's Defensive Clinic Versus Virginia [NT] [LINK] - UHND - 10:49am 9/29/19 (0) [View All]
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The Year 2 QB struggles - ND_in_DRO - 10:37am 9/29/19 (21) [View All]
- Martinez from NU was being touted as Heisman candidate - ColeyO - 2:10pm 9/29/19
- huh??? - murph92675 - 12:53pm 9/29/19
  - So what's your solution? - ND_in_DRO - 4:36pm 9/29/19
- Book ignored or did not see wide open receivers against SC & Clemson last year either... [NT] - ND521 - 12:17pm 9/29/19
- He started struggling well before year 2 [NT] - NDNEIL - 12:13pm 9/29/19
  - Sure, but it is only obvious now b/c the whole offense runs through him. - ND_in_DRO - 12:44pm 9/29/19
- Book has hit his peak. He is what he is. You can coach him 24/7 and I doubt he improves much. [NT] - ghostwriter - 12:01pm 9/29/19
- Thing is, I don't think they are putting too much on his plate. - Rocket91 - 11:20am 9/29/19
  - Let's call a spade a spade - WoodstockIrish - 11:46am 9/29/19
    - I agree, lets call it, you dont show much knowledge how CF works - cubsfanin16 - 11:58am 9/29/19
      - actually what i do have knowledge of - WoodstockIrish - 12:01pm 9/29/19
    - That’s racist [NT] - PBHangingChad - 11:55am 9/29/19
      - Good one. [NT] - Napoleon - 11:57am 9/29/19
    - What do you consider a "tier 1 QB?" - Napoleon - 11:54am 9/29/19
      - It has NOTHING to do with where they finished coming out of HS - WoodstockIrish - 11:58am 9/29/19
        either have to attract and elite qb or swap them out once they're figured out - Scottbrown5555 - 4:55pm 9/29/19
        
        When you attract them you don't know how they will do as freshman. - Napoleon - 12:04pm 9/29/19
- "To me, this is mostly due to putting too much on the QB's plate" - Clem - 10:58am 9/29/19
  - Only - WoodstockIrish - 11:47am 9/29/19
    - True, but Golson, Zaire, Kizer and Wimbush - Clem - 6:58pm 9/29/19
      - I think - WoodstockIrish - 5:11pm 9/30/19
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Virginia is an outstanding team especially on defense, kudos to the Irish! [NT] - DonMiller - 8:47am 9/29/19 (8) [View All]
- Too early to tell, but Saturday was likely the 4th toughest game on the schedule - ND_in_DRO - 10:39am 9/29/19
  - USC lost again - WoodstockIrish - 11:53am 9/29/19
    - Not trying to build them up at all - ND_in_DRO - 4:33pm 9/29/19
    - If USC gets Slovis back, they could be pretty tough. - Napoleon - 11:57am 9/29/19
      - They have now lost twice in a crappy PAC-12 - WoodstockIrish - 8:05pm 9/29/19
        I wrote “could be tough.” - Napoleon - 8:37pm 9/29/19
- “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!“. You just might be the wizard..... [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:15am 9/29/19
- They have the best special teams unit that I have seen in at least a decade at ND Stadium - BaronVonZemo - 9:38am 9/29/19
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Unlike Golson, Zaire, Kizer and Wimbush, - Clem - 8:41am 9/29/19 (1) [View All]
- I think we'll know better by the end of the season. [NT] - LehighND - 10:50am 9/29/19
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BK: Keep your hands off the offense... - Irishize - 8:06am 9/29/19 (2) [View All]
- At least you have no idea what you're talking about. [NT] - ND521 - 12:10pm 9/29/19
- Yup...Long clearly frustrated... [NT] - eftg1 - 9:52am 9/29/19
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Will ND's offense struggle vs. Bowling Green? - knuterockne13 - 7:35am 9/29/19 (7) [View All]
- No [NT] - CC72 - 4:24pm 9/29/19
- Time to insert a few other people.including a QB or X QB to see what happens. [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:11am 9/29/19
  - I'm hoping it is an opportunity to see a lot of the other QBs. And more of some young WRs. - Napoleon - 2:00pm 9/29/19
- BVG! BVG! [NT] - jrdjr84 - 8:55am 9/29/19
- Is anyone planning on watching that shit show? [NT] - AlbanyIRISH - 7:43am 9/29/19
  - You. And the rest of us [NT] - NDNEIL - 7:56am 9/29/19
    - Yup... [NT] - eftg1 - 8:02am 9/29/19
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ND Defense forced 5 turnovers while holding UVA to 4 yards total rushing. Seriously?!? Incredible. [NT] - Jerseymick - 6:13am 9/29/19 (10) [View All]
- Does anyone here know what the problem was in the first half? - knuterockne13 - 8:31am 9/29/19
  - Their QB was dead accurate in the first half and scrambled to get a touchdown pass when - THEISMANCARR - 9:38pm 9/30/19
  - That has been his MO. - LehighND - 10:49am 9/29/19
  - Haven't broke down the film yet but in real time - NDNEIL - 9:20am 9/29/19
    - It was noted the rush just needed a split second longer, so DBs staying on the receivers and not - jrdjr84 - 10:30am 9/29/19
    - Exactly... [NT] - eftg1 - 9:53am 9/29/19
    - I think you got it. - Napoleon - 9:51am 9/29/19
    - I think that’s exactly right. Perkins was their leading rusher coming into the game. - NDavenue - 9:50am 9/29/19
      - Good thought on Okwara. [NT] - Napoleon - 9:53am 9/29/19
  - Hafta rewatch, but it looked - Clem - 9:14am 9/29/19
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Regarding the onside kick fiasco, Virginia picked up something from the game against Georgia [LINK] - Rocket91 - 12:42am 9/29/19 (4) [View All]
- Given that 90% of kickoffs are now touchbacks, it's extremely stupid by ND - ND_in_DRO - 10:18am 9/29/19
- First rule when listening to BK: - Clem - 8:38am 9/29/19
- Polian’s special teams have a history of not being prepared [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 8:37am 9/29/19
- Good stuff and good supporting info - NDNEIL - 6:23am 9/29/19
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Late night drunken instant reactions - Nigel Tufnel - 11:32pm 9/28/19 (9) [View All]
- Finke is the new Joe Schmidt or Cam McDaniel - BaronVonZemo - 9:36am 9/29/19
  - I think this is right on - D2 - 12:19pm 9/29/19
  - The problem with Finke is he's taking snaps away from Keys. - ND_in_DRO - 10:28am 9/29/19
    - This is it - Rocket91 - 11:26am 9/29/19
  - Yup... [NT] - eftg1 - 10:05am 9/29/19
  - I just don't think that is it. [LINK] - Napoleon - 9:57am 9/29/19
    - Funny, but it’s very much the same for Book..... [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:04am 9/29/19
      - Correct. [NT] - Napoleon - 10:13am 9/29/19
- Good stuff, and you didn't slur a bit. [NT] - Clem - 8:34am 9/29/19
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didn't see much of Avery Davis today - ccb - 10:53pm 9/28/19 (9) [View All]
- Probably had something to do w/ dropping an easy pass that could have gone for a TD early on - IrishChristopher - 3:35am 9/29/19
  - I think it was also “Partially” Books pass as pointed out in the slow mo [NT] - whatsamataU - 10:26am 9/29/19
  - He should have caught it no doubt - knuterockne13 - 7:41am 9/29/19
    - It hit him in both hands. - ND_in_DRO - 10:24am 9/29/19
    - In Book's defense, he's looked that way for awhile now [NT] - NDNEIL - 7:58am 9/29/19
  - Good coaches tend to put that same player in a position to succeed and grow from mistake - Jerseymick - 6:17am 9/29/19
    - He is a "package" guy until he gets caught up - NDNEIL - 6:25am 9/29/19
- Maybe in the doghouse after he dropped that screen pass? [NT] - randyoirish - 11:05pm 9/28/19
  - Yup [NT] - eftg1 - 11:09pm 9/28/19
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Happy that the Lads are 3-1 they played hard today and deserved the win. Hope the O comes around. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 10:46pm 9/28/19 (0) [View All]
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Offense has players,this is mind boggling...long developing plays don't work.. [NT] - eftg1 - 9:39pm 9/28/19 (8) [View All]
- Would love to see your breakdown of "long developing plays". Thanks! [NT] - NDNEIL - 9:51pm 9/28/19
  - *Did you like the flea flicker that was major in the Georgia loss.. [NT] - eftg1 - 10:29pm 9/28/19
    - Sure, if Book doesn't force the ball into coverage that play would have been fine [NT] - NDNEIL - 6:27am 9/29/19
  - How about quick slants, double tight end sets run ball,sit Finke? [NT] - eftg1 - 10:27pm 9/28/19
    - Excellent breakdown!!! [NT] - NDNEIL - 6:26am 9/29/19
      - ND run the table and send Michigan and Harbaugh into Oblivion.. [NT] - eftg1 - 7:59am 9/29/19
  - How is that for starters? [NT] - eftg1 - 10:25pm 9/28/19
  - Book does not have the arm strength or accuracy to throw 30 yard cross field passes for 3 yard gains [NT] - eftg1 - 10:24pm 9/28/19
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Book has the yips! [NT] - Irishize - 8:36pm 9/28/19 (8) [View All]
- Book does continue to struggle. He’s bailing from the pocket early without spotting the open - whatsamataU - 9:58am 9/29/19
- Amazing how EVERY QB has those same "yips" in their 2nd season as starting QB under Kelly - IrishChristopher - 3:39am 9/29/19
- I would like to see them roll Book out more. Get him on the run with receivers in front of him. - tky21 - 10:19pm 9/28/19
  - He’s not spotting his open secondary receivers. [NT] - whatsamataU - 9:59am 9/29/19
- He either can’t see the receivers or can’t read the Defense - see the field - irishscooter - 9:23pm 9/28/19
  - Wimbush had the same problem.. [NT] - eftg1 - 9:34pm 9/28/19
- MarkHarmon Book needs your help. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 8:43pm 9/28/19
  - Re: MarkHarmon Book needs your help. - MarkHarman - 10:33pm 9/28/19
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Immediate Overreactions: Notre Dame Offense Stalls, Defense Shines [NT] [LINK] - UHND - 8:10pm 9/28/19 (0) [View All]
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Brandon Clark - saw the kid play in HS. He is a smooth operator - irishscooter - 7:51pm 9/28/19 (6) [View All]
- Brendon. [NT] - Napoleon - 9:28pm 9/28/19
- so we're going right to 3rd string? - Scottbrown5555 - 8:52pm 9/28/19
  - Cut out the middleman! [NT] - Iggle - 11:20pm 9/28/19
- They all look good in High School. [NT] - holybull101 - 8:43pm 9/28/19
  - We retain this thought in our expectations of college performance [NT] - Easton Pa ND Fan - 11:08pm 9/28/19
- looks to have a great arm. [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 7:56pm 9/28/19
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Poor Crawford/adjustments/book - Irish29 - 7:50pm 9/28/19 (1) [View All]
- Defense is playoff good; Offense, not so much. [NT] - faircatchcorby - 9:59pm 9/28/19
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What’s wrong with Finke. He has lost his focus and edge - irishscooter - 7:47pm 9/28/19 (5) [View All]
- Finke has consistently bobbled passes on a curl route [NT] - NDPatrick30 - 10:22am 9/29/19
- He is who he is........ - IrishChristopher - 3:42am 9/29/19
- Was he back in the slot today? It’s - faircatchcorby - 10:01pm 9/28/19
- I think he's the same player, but since we don't have game breakers this year, there's more focus - holybull101 - 8:57pm 9/28/19
- Re: What’s wrong with Finke. He has lost his focus and edge - garryowen - 8:01pm 9/28/19
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Wheres CapeIrish? No inside push? [NT] - ColeyO - 7:44pm 9/28/19 (1) [View All]
- Kudo's to Clark Lea, and all of the front 7.....they won the game - CapeIrish - 12:56pm 9/29/19
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I'm in board, time to fire Kelly. Let's get Matt Campbell. No let downs from him - NDNEIL - 7:26pm 9/28/19 (18) [View All]
- Great. Another coach-du-jour suggestion. I recall - faircatchcorby - 10:06pm 9/28/19
  - He's being sarcastic. Others are not. - MAS - 10:39pm 9/28/19
  - Matt Campbell is incredible. He has the boys ready every week. Fact!! [NT] - NDNEIL - 10:23pm 9/28/19
- How's Charlie Strong doing; I used to cringe everytime I heard him as a potential HC.. [NT] - cubsfanin16 - 9:30pm 9/28/19
- Wake Forest beat BC today and is 5-0. I knew Dave Clawson when he - irishscooter - 9:13pm 9/28/19
  - Good grief, no. [NT] - mtthawk1 - 9:52pm 9/28/19
- Campbell just got beat by Baylor. Probably a let up instead of a let down. [NT] - Frankbuz - 9:08pm 9/28/19
  - Baylor is not good, no way Campbell lost to them. Nice try [NT] - NDNEIL - 9:30pm 9/28/19
- I thought Mike MacIntyre was the answer? [NT] - Scottbrown5555 - 8:43pm 9/28/19
  - I would also be happy with option 2, Jeff Brohm! - NDNEIL - 8:57pm 9/28/19
    - Is Dan Hawkins still around? [NT] - Scottbrown5555 - 9:33pm 9/28/19
- I have to admit, I got a kick out of this one.. [NT] - cubsfanin16 - 7:59pm 9/28/19
- Brilliant post. To bad we lost [NT] - ColeyO - 7:41pm 9/28/19
  - Please stop being a homer. Are you satisfied with the offense? After 10 years? The D improved. - PBHangingChad - 7:47pm 9/28/19
    - Ur a whiny bitch. U know less about - ColeyO - 8:44pm 9/28/19
      - PB is a total whiny bitch, but he's our whiny bitch LOL. [NT] - Jerseymick - 6:28am 9/29/19
      - How many NC has Kelly won? How did Trump become President? I rest my case. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 9:16pm 9/28/19
    - Exactly why I want Cambell now. Dude puts up 50 a game!!! [NT] - NDNEIL - 7:53pm 9/28/19
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Can coach Lea coach offense? [NT] - garryowen - 7:08pm 9/28/19 (4) [View All]
- Apparently, he basically scored 28 today [NT] - ShowMeIrish - 7:12pm 9/28/19
- We know Kelly and Long can’t. Let’s give him a shot. [NT] - PBHangingChad - 7:11pm 9/28/19
- only gave up 4 rushing yards. [NT] - irishone - 7:11pm 9/28/19
  - radio said nD had more yards on fumbles than the offense [NT] - WestCoastIrishFan - 7:12pm 9/28/19
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Well I called the final score but had no idea Long’s offense would be so offensive [NT] - CC72 - 7:06pm 9/28/19 (2) [View All]
- We need new blood on offensive coaching staff. [NT] - garryowen - 7:13pm 9/28/19
  - Absolutely [NT] - CC72 - 7:29pm 9/28/19

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