0 Got some info today from an ND student on the JC fracasNT M McIrish 7:16pm · 11/25/09 4 replies View All It sounds like the sports show teasers everyone does.NT–syririshfan · 9:00pm Ask and you shall receive–McIrish · 9:33pm Well thanks for sharing, that about clears it up for me.NT–ShowMeIrish · 7:20pm I'm not going to post it publicly and it is not much more than what had been reported in the SB trib–McIrish · 7:24pm
0 Will the Hoopty soon follow the recent fate of the polly?NT I irishscooter 6:56pm · 11/25/09 1 reply View All No.–jabbadoody5 · 7:06pm
0 It would really be a shame... M MAS 6:21pm · 11/25/09 4 replies View All Who is the mod that deleted that thread? what a bunch of pussiesNT–ShowMeIrish · 6:34pm I did–Kyle · 4:39pm I can hide from you no longer...unless you cannot find the pollyNT–ShowMeIrish · 11:06pm I think Hammer has been working on just thatNT–McIrish · 6:23pm
0 Congratulations to Dookie! M McIrish 5:58pm · 11/25/09 12 replies View All I would not get to excited, there is only like 4 people posting on this boardNT–ShowMeIrish · 6:18pm You're letting the fact that you have to go home and face your wife distract you–McIrish · 6:22pm You suck at counting.NT–jabbadoody5 · 6:04pm No I don't–McIrish · 6:17pm You really are retarded.NT–jabbadoody5 · 6:23pm I take that as a concession on your part that you have no argumentNT–McIrish · 6:27pm You haven't understood a single one of my jokes all day.–jabbadoody5 · 6:28pm You need to work on your delivery. Your comedic timing sucksNT–McIrish · 6:31pm No, you're a fucking retard.–jabbadoody5 · 6:36pm Turn up your meter. Your buttons are too easy to pushNT–McIrish · 6:40pm Continue 2 replies
0 We've accomplished something on this board in two days that was not accomplished in over a year M McIrish 5:04pm · 11/25/09 1 reply View All Hell, The Polly has almost as many post as the Hoopty–ShowMeIrish · 5:07pm
0 First joke for this Christmas season M McIrish 3:45pm · 11/25/09 4 replies View All Thanks Windy.–ShowMeIrish · 3:48pm Windy? Now you are getting vicious–McIrish · 3:54pm I do not fear my wife, I am a grown man–ShowMeIrish · 4:09pm Ahhhh...I understandNT–McIrish · 4:49pm
0 Notre Dame WILL NOT lose to Northwestern.NT A AlbanyIRISH 3:42pm · 11/25/09 2 replies View All It should be a good game though.NT–syririshfan · 10:21pm Did you just put the jinx on us?NT–jabbadoody5 · 4:40pm
0 If all women could be frozen in this position, the world would be a better placeNTImg M McIrish 3:11pm · 11/25/09 18 replies View All It would make it hard for them to cook and clean though.NT–AlbanyIRISH · 3:40pm Stick a pom-pom in each hand. That will take care of the dusting–McIrish · 3:48pm What about fat women, sicky?NT–jabbadoody5 · 3:33pm What about them?–McIrish · 3:35pm I don't think any women should be frozen in that position.–jabbadoody5 · 3:52pm You realize that this was a joke right? Yes, the picture and caption, not just the other board–McIrish · 3:57pm Thanks for the clarification, genius.NT–jabbadoody5 · 4:39pm You're welcome! I understand that you need all the help you can getNT–McIrish · 4:50pm You realize that you have the world's worst sarcasm detector, yes?NT–jabbadoody5 · 4:53pm That was sarcasm? You need to work on your techniqueNT–McIrish · 5:01pm Continue 2 replies that must be–und67 · 3:17pm Easy there Chester, you are a little too old for thisNT–ShowMeIrish · 3:12pm Never too old to have a cheerleader do a split on your faceNT–McIrish · 3:26pm I hope I have your vigor when I am as close to death as you–ShowMeIrish · 3:30pm HANT–jabbadoody5 · 3:33pm Careful, you are already on double secret probation following last night's abominationNT–McIrish · 3:32pm
0 Meanwhile, back on that other board, there is one post today M McIrish 1:04pm · 11/25/09 1 reply View All Does FSB stand for the Free SyIrish Board? Have we decided on anything yetNT–ShowMeIrish · 1:12pm
0 FSB Poll: Hottest basketball cheerleaders C clements2 12:04pm · 11/25/09 21 replies View All Of course, South Carolina always had interesting uniformsNTImg–McIrish · 1:14pm Here is the correct answer...Although I have never heard of "DK" as a collegeNTLinkImg–ShowMeIrish · 12:31pm If you are going to post a picture of a celebrity cheerleader, at least post one that WASImg–McIrish · 1:11pm She has aged wonderfullyNT–ShowMeIrish · 1:12pm First of all, learn to post an image–clements2 · 12:33pm I was always partial to UCLA cheerleaders–McIrish · 12:10pm Man I agree with Doody, those UCLA chicks were FuglyNT–ShowMeIrish · 12:26pm You call this fugly?–clements2 · 12:37pm 3/5's are fuglyNT–ShowMeIrish · 12:47pm fag–clements2 · 12:52pm I dont believe this to be true.NT–ShowMeIrish · 12:58pm That wasn't a particularly good photo of UCLA cheerleadersImg–McIrish · 12:37pm this is much, much betterNT–ShowMeIrish · 12:48pm Exhibit BNTImg–McIrish · 12:42pm Showme, apparently, doesn't dig hot bodies.NT–clements2 · 12:40pm Apparently not but he does know how to come when his wife calls–McIrish · 12:46pm You don't fear the devil?NT–ShowMeIrish · 12:49pm Those UCLA chicks are all butter faces.–jabbadoody5 · 12:14pm They would be glazed faces after I was done with themNT–clements2 · 12:15pm And slightly stickyNT–McIrish · 12:24pm They win the college bracket hands down–clements2 · 12:13pm
0 Great article about the ESPN monopoly on early season tournaments.Link A AlbanyIRISH 11:07am · 11/25/09 2 replies View All The Alaska tournament was one of my favoritesNT–clements2 · 11:55am Link?NT–McIrish · 11:10am
0 FSB chat -- stat!NT C clements2 11:05pm · 11/24/09 2 replies View All Sorry about my wife...I am a pussyNT–ShowMeIrish · 1:13am as my friend fredyo would say "do tell" !!! oinker ^-@-^~NT–oinker · 7:10am
0 This mutiny is not even fun anymore, It is equivalent to beating up a kid in a wheel chair ShowMeIrish 10:55pm · 11/24/09 19 replies View All The Hoopty is stronger then ever now that we have shed the dead weight!–Richard Cranium · 1:07am Mutineers don't care about what a dickhead has to say.–McIrish · 11:06am I care and I'm a mutineer–jabbadoody5 · 11:11am You are not of the body–McIrish · 11:41am I am mutinying from this board and am therefore a mutineer.–jabbadoody5 · 12:09pm You cannot mutiny from a board that never accepted youNT–McIrish · 12:19pm Mata HairyNT–McIrish · 12:18pm Then you should inform HipND–clements2 · 9:57am I've just promoted Vegas to Hoopty recruiting coordinator.–jabbadoody5 · 10:05am Grasping at straws are we? Just apologize and let us all rejoin on the Hoopty to do Gods workNT–ShowMeIrish · 1:12am We won't be apologizing for a joke.NT–jabbadoody5 · 9:16am We?–McIrish · 12:00pm Are you retarded?NT–jabbadoody5 · 12:12pm No you?NT–McIrish · 12:20pm Are you sure?NT–jabbadoody5 · 12:21pm Yes, I'm sure you are retardedNT–McIrish · 12:22pm Continue 2 replies Easy, biatchNT–jabbadoody5 · 11:03pm
0 2 thoughts. A AlbanyIRISH 9:51pm · 11/24/09 10 replies View All Peoples is this year's version of Hilseland -- only much darker.NT–clements2 · 10:41pm And shorterNT–McIrish · 10:47pm Brey recently compared Peoples to Russell Carter.–MAS · 10:47pm Brey is coasting on Easy Street–clements2 · 10:49pm I believe he pulls down a half a mil per year in salary.–MAS · 11:05pm In that they are both black?–McIrish · 10:49pm Brey does not see color.–MAS · 11:01pm Well THAT explains EVERYTHING–McIrish · 11:06pm Have you seen the walk-on, Kopko play at garbage time?–MAS · 11:13pm I agree with that! Peoples shows me nothingNT–McIrish · 1:07am
0 Northwestern will beat NDNT C clements2 9:30pm · 11/24/09 1 reply View All Told ya so!NT–clements2 · 11:27pm
0 Is Harangody really the best player in college basketball? C clements2 9:29pm · 11/24/09 7 replies View All You mutiny for Syr, but not for me?–jabbadoody5 · 9:40pm You're not a mutineer. You are a visitor here–McIrish · 9:49pm I am a mutineer.NT–jabbadoody5 · 9:56pm No, you are a spy from the other board and the main reason we are here in the first placeLink–McIrish · 10:07pm Nope. Mutineer.NT–jabbadoody5 · 10:19pm You've been outed–McIrish · 10:33pm You can call me Mutey for short.NT–jabbadoody5 · 10:34pm
0 Brey: "On to the next challenge..." C clements2 9:24pm · 11/24/09 1 reply View All For this team, every game is a challengeNT–McIrish · 9:25pm
0 Dookie is the Who Ya Got winner -- Und67 pay the man his money!NT C clements2 9:22pm · 11/24/09 9 replies View All What kind of mutiny are you running here?–McIrish · 11:04am Too late. Mutiny is already on.NT–jabbadoody5 · 9:25pm congrats, dookster.–und67 · 9:25pm DQed for posting a score on the other board. And not only that–McIrish · 9:28pm upon further review–und67 · 9:31pm Person who is incapable of understanding irony!!!NT–jabbadoody5 · 9:39pm Sorry, Dookie is disqualified for posting a score on that other board–McIrish · 9:23pm Despot!!!!NT–jabbadoody5 · 9:26pm I'll take that as another complimentNT–McIrish · 9:28pm
0 Congrats to Clements for his "Who ya got" win. Pay the man!NT M McIrish 9:21pm · 11/24/09 10 replies View All after further review–und67 · 9:33pm Cheater, Cheater, Pumpkin Eater!!!NT–jabbadoody5 · 9:37pm Sorry, you didn't play by the rules.–McIrish · 9:41pm Link?NT–jabbadoody5 · 9:44pm Here ya goNTLink–McIrish · 9:52pm Nope, Dookie beat me by a pubic hair.NT–clements2 · 9:22pm Hypocrite!!!!–jabbadoody5 · 9:22pm DQed for posting on the other boardNT–McIrish · 9:24pm Rule Maker Upper!!!NT–jabbadoody5 · 9:26pm We run a tight ship over here. Either you are with us or you're not–McIrish · 9:30pm
0 Peoples is God-awful handling pressure.NT C clements2 9:07pm · 11/24/09 6 replies View All Wait until Big East play.NT–MAS · 9:20pm Brooks is agressive and terrible.NT–jabbadoody5 · 9:16pm You could have stopped at "God-awful"NT–McIrish · 9:10pm Brohammer, Cooley? Oh shit -- that's comedy.NT–clements2 · 9:13pm They are going to cost me a "Who ya got" winNT–McIrish · 9:15pm The "Masons" are in–McIrish · 9:14pm
0 Gody should give up any hope of being a point guard M McIrish 9:06pm · 11/24/09 1 reply View All He'll be battling foul trouble a lot this season -- he has no help.NT–clements2 · 9:10pm
0 Peoples needs to turn in his uniNT M McIrish 8:53pm · 11/24/09 5 replies View All Our guard play is going to kill us.–jabbadoody5 · 9:01pm How is the insight on the Hoopty board?–clements2 · 9:04pm Stop being a weiner.NT–jabbadoody5 · 9:06pm Cranium was/is being a douche–clements2 · 9:09pm Eat mah balls.–jabbadoody5 · 9:14pm
0 This team is terrible.NT J jabbadoody5 8:45pm · 11/24/09 1 reply View All The Big East will eat them alive.NT–clements2 · 8:47pm
0 I like the way Scott works the boards and boxes out on the defensive endNT M McIrish 8:44pm · 11/24/09 1 reply View All He isn't anything special.NT–clements2 · 8:47pm
0 Clements and und67NTImg R Richard Cranium 8:41pm · 11/24/09 1 reply View All Keep your porn searches off the board, fagala.NT–clements2 · 8:44pm
0 Do no students go to these games? C clements2 8:39pm · 11/24/09 4 replies View All gone or getting ready to go for thanksgiving already maybe?NT–und67 · 9:22pm Who wants to see Kennesaw State?NT–McIrish · 8:42pm Granted -- but c'mon -- most top 20 teams would have students attending.NT–clements2 · 8:45pm my living room is noisier right now–clements2 · 8:40pm
0 Peoples throws a lazy pass which gets stolen and then he fouls the guy for a three point play M McIrish 8:03pm · 11/24/09 2 replies View All Let the record show...–MAS · 8:10pm You have impeccable timingNT–McIrish · 8:18pm
0 Brey never ceases to amaze me. M MAS 8:00pm · 11/24/09 2 replies View All I'm really not a Peoples person.NT–jabbadoody5 · 8:03pm "Doggone it, you gotta go with your seniors!"NT–MAS · 8:06pm
0 Game on -- live streaming on und.comNT C clements2 7:36pm · 11/24/09 2 replies View All got it.–und67 · 7:50pm its our jumbotron baby!NT–irishscooter · 7:49pm
0 Bowling pins, a feather duster, WD-40, beer, a kiddie pool, and a hockey puck.Img T Tenacious_P 6:48pm · 11/24/09 3 replies View All Emerson–McIrish · 8:24pm I'll take the fifth from the left.NT–clements2 · 7:32pm Looks like a Greek buffet!NT–syririshfan · 7:09pm
0 Can't we all just get along, we had a good thing going ShowMeIrish 3:57pm · 11/24/09 19 replies View All Sure! As soon as certain parties capitulate and name syririshfan the winner of the Who Ya GotNT–McIrish · 4:08pm Enjoy purgatory! NOYB won and it is final!–Richard Cranium · 5:28pm Not a chance in hell, boy (note the comma)!–und67 · 7:55pm Son of a bitch! It must be a motherfucker for you to travel by plane!NT–Richard Cranium · 8:06pm i have my own plane.–und67 · 8:23pm Did you guys hear something?–McIrish · 7:18pm SUCK IT!NT–clements2 · 6:25pm The Hoopty has turned into some sort of Fag convention...it is embarrassingNT–ShowMeIrish · 5:29pm What is the name of this board again?NT–Richard Cranium · 5:31pm This is the world of warcraft board...why are you so deperate to post over here?–ShowMeIrish · 5:34pm You may want to check the OFFICIAL "Who ya got?"–Richard Cranium · 5:42pm You just came back from a 9-month self-imposed sabbatical, assboy.NT–clements2 · 6:27pm insults like "assboy" will make me reconsider my affilations...please do betterNT–ShowMeIrish · 6:28pm Continue 4 replies 3 out of the 5 are you, Doody and NOYB...I hardly think that is validation–ShowMeIrish · 5:51pm Yes JORTS is. Thus, his "true" feelings are surfacing.–Richard Cranium · 5:59pm
0 What is this shit about Coach Kelly and "walking" somewhere? What the fuck does that mean>?NT ImWearingJeanShorts 3:10pm · 11/24/09 6 replies View All Jorts -- we're in a mutiny–clements2 · 6:32pm We need a meeting of the heads of all five families and their consigliories–irishscooter · 6:50pm Can I call an end to the Mutiny?NT–syririshfan · 6:45pm I'm beginning to question whether it was worth the mutiny staged on your behalf–McIrish · 8:22pm He is a bit ungrateful...NT–ShowMeIrish · 8:51pm Yes, if you can get Dookie to declare you the official Who Ya Got winner.NT–clements2 · 7:31pm
0 You all will not get rid of me that easily, I am nothing if not persistent ShowMeIrish 2:49pm · 11/24/09 2 replies View All Jesus! We left enough clues. It's about time you found usNT–McIrish · 2:57pm I am not that smart, I am sure you knew that.NT–ShowMeIrish · 2:59pm
0 Clausen really in a fight? C clements2 1:37pm · 11/24/09 6 replies View All His mom told him "Nothing good happens after midnight"...and then slugged him.NT–TakethetrainKnute · 3:19pm Re: His mom told him "Nothing good happens after midnight"...and then slugged him.–NDTORONTO · 2:45pm He supposedly was having dinner with his parentsNT–McIrish · 2:42pm At 2:30am?NT–AlbanyIRISH · 3:01pm Here's the storyNTLink–McIrish · 3:06pm Re: The footy is ripe -- and here is the perfect fuel...–jabbadoody5 · 1:48pm
0 23rd in the AP? Really? A AlbanyIRISH 1:16pm · 11/24/09 2 replies View All It's all part of Brey's master plan...–clements2 · 1:29pm everything? really?–und67 · 1:22pm
0 I suggest we go with Knute's suggestion: The FSB board C clements2 12:59pm · 11/24/09 5 replies View All I don't know, the FSBty doesn't quite have a ring to itNT–McIrish · 3:48pm i dunno.... that 'golden vagina' thingie is intriguing, don'tcha think?–und67 · 1:24pm a 'golden vagina' sounds unappealing, no?NT–jabbadoody5 · 3:49pm Some people don't have your hangups about a woman's color.Img–TakethetrainKnute · 3:58pm best so far.NT–fourleaf88 · 1:15pm
0 Actually, this board is much more hidden from the tards C clements2 12:57pm · 11/24/09 1 reply View All Don't you need balls to tea-bag?NT–AlbanyIRISH · 1:12pm
0 They sure hid this board pretty well...I'm here you faginas!NT ImWearingJeanShorts 12:27pm · 11/24/09 2 replies View All Better late than never!NT–McIrish · 3:35pm atta boy, Jorts–clements2 · 12:54pm
0 Is there not a better way to have a mutiny? J jabbadoody5 12:09pm · 11/24/09 13 replies View All We wouldn't be here if you didn't have your nub-of-a-dick up Cranium's ass–clements2 · 12:52pm Dooky really doesn't realize that he is the cause of the mutiny?–McIrish · 2:49pm So we all have to suffer?–jabbadoody5 · 1:15pm You've been the only one to complain.–clements2 · 1:25pm Oh no, I'm not the only one....NTLink–jabbadoody5 · 1:28pm I've come to terms with it.–clements2 · 1:31pm I just bookmarked it.NT–jabbadoody5 · 1:33pm Stop whining you fucking pussy!–Richard Cranium · 1:15pm Was that a concession speech?–clements2 · 1:27pm I only concede that you are a whiny, washed up basketball player!!!!–Richard Cranium · 3:39pm No, I'm boning your wife that day.NT–clements2 · 6:36pm Perfect! So you will already be in town.–Richard Cranium · 8:00pm Who said I'm traveling?–clements2 · 8:51pm
0 Tonight's game: Who ya Got: ND-Kennesaw State C clements2 9:51am · 11/24/09 8 replies View All i'm waiting until after the game to post my, ahem, guess.–und67 · 1:20pm This board is not run by scumbags–McIrish · 3:07pm ND 88-KSU 70NT–syririshfan · 12:38pm ND 12 KSU 89NT–ImWearingJeanShorts · 12:25pm ND 30- UCONN 33NT–fourleaf88 · 11:53am ND 83 - KSU 62NT–jabbadoody5 · 10:58am ND - 90 KS - 74NT–McIrish · 10:07am ND 84-KSU 62NT–clements2 · 9:52am
0 This board is still missing a couple heavyweights... C clements2 12:12am · 11/24/09 4 replies View All Is this another crack at Weis' expense?NT–McIrish · 12:26am Think crazier...NT–clements2 · 12:30am Only one person fits that bill......oinkerNT–McIrish · 2:57am reporting for duty !!!–oinker · 6:09am
0 If we are seriously going to post over here, we are going to have to come up with a different name. J jabbadoody5 11:47pm · 11/23/09 12 replies View All "The FSB"–TakethetrainKnute · 10:07am Knute!NT–clements2 · 12:53pm how about "fools paradise" or "hallucinating hooligans" or "the delusionals" or "daydreamers" !!!–oinker · 6:22am The Fanny–clements2 · 11:49pm We could call it the "Five Guys" board–McIrish · 11:54pm uh, what happens when another poster joins, genius?NT–jabbadoody5 · 11:59pm Did you not read the post or do I need to draw you pictures?NT–McIrish · 12:04am We all know that you've already drawn the pictures.NT–jabbadoody5 · 12:12am That doesn't sound super-fucking-gay at all.–jabbadoody5 · 11:51pm Fantasy IslandNT–clements2 · 11:53pm no that's uber gay !!! goodness what are you smokin' =) oinker ^-@^~NT–oinker · 6:14am This is the Mutiny BoardNT–McIrish · 11:49pm
0 BTW, you can mark ND down for a win against Stanford. M MAS 11:38pm · 11/23/09 7 replies View All Stanford by 25–clements2 · 11:47pm Walls and Brown are going to get steamrolled by GerhartNT–McIrish · 11:52pm ... and McCarthy, S Brown, B Smith, H Smith...NT–clements2 · 11:55pm I don't think getting punched in the face counts as fighting.–jabbadoody5 · 11:41pm You're overlooking one thing:–MAS · 11:42pm He's the type of fan that is never satisfied–clements2 · 11:49pm I haven't overlooked that at all.–jabbadoody5 · 11:45pm
0 There's been such an explosion of posts that the "Who ya got" thread has gotten buriedNT M McIrish 11:35pm · 11/23/09 5 replies View All About time for Kylie to wonder over here to geek out about his 3rd string fantasy QBNT–clements2 · 11:42pm Sounds like you may have had an explosion in your pants too.–jabbadoody5 · 11:39pm You could hear that?–McIrish · 11:41pm Your enthusiasm had me worried about another type of explosion.–jabbadoody5 · 11:43pm As far as you can tellNT–McIrish · 11:45pm
0 Pomagranates...more trouble than they are worth?NT J jabbadoody5 11:22pm · 11/23/09 3 replies View All Take it to the fruit board–McIrish · 11:26pm I did.–jabbadoody5 · 11:27pm Is this code for Syrirish is the official winner?NT–clements2 · 11:24pm
0 Why is ND not in an early tournament such as the Maui Classic? C clements2 10:53pm · 11/23/09 9 replies View All I believe you can only go to Maui once every three or four years.NT–MAS · 11:07pm Yes, but there are others -- Anchorage... Hell, make the Chicago Invitational–clements2 · 11:12pm What? Are you implying that Liberty and Kennesaw State are not decent?NT–McIrish · 11:18pm they'll get us ready for the Big East, no doubt,.NT–clements2 · 11:22pm The last time we went to Palin-land...–MAS · 11:16pm I remember that–clements2 · 11:19pm ND goes once in a while.–AlbanyIRISH · 11:06pm They do? I didn't know that.–clements2 · 11:10pm What are you talking about? We are in the Chicago Invitational–McIrish · 10:59pm
0 Your center choices are pretty much limited to these M McIrish 10:28pm · 11/23/09 25 replies View All What about Troy Murphy's nose?NT–jabbadoody5 · 11:33pm That's it? I'll take Woolridge.–clements2 · 10:47pm But he is listed as a forward. (see link in post below)–McIrish · 10:53pm Whitmore over Laimbeer.NT–MAS · 11:04pm Alright Whitmore then–clements2 · 11:16pm Pretty much. Remember Pete Crotty?–McIrish · 11:24pm I wouldn't recruit him based on his name aloneNT–clements2 · 11:26pm Uh, where's Keith Tower on that list?NTImg–MAS · 10:37pm is Keith in the middle?NT–clements2 · 10:45pm Yes, he was our 5'11" center during the lean years.–MAS · 11:06pm More sarcasm?–McIrish · 11:12pm Jesus McIrish -- are we gonna have to throw you back to the Hoopty?–clements2 · 11:14pm Only vertically.NT–MAS · 11:13pm We are listing center candidates that would qualify for an all-time list–McIrish · 10:41pm Uh, what about Joe Ross?–MAS · 10:44pm that was bad -- I know.–clements2 · 10:46pm Joe Ross for all-time team? Really? And he has already corrected the omission of CarrNT–McIrish · 10:45pm Sometime I think you're not catching my sarcasm.–MAS · 11:03pm MAS, MAS, MAS can't you see we are trying to have a serious discussion on the first day of the new–McIrish · 11:09pm Please don't chase off our most valuable board member.NT–clements2 · 11:15pm Don't worry, he won't chase me off.NT–jabbadoody5 · 11:20pm Shumate played center.NT–syririshfan · 10:30pm True but Shumate was a forward playing center because that team didn't have a true center.–McIrish · 10:32pm I'd still put him at center over the others except maybe Whitmore who I never saw play.NT–syririshfan · 10:45pm I don't disagree but–McIrish · 10:49pm