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Trump fires the first volley in the inevitable war with DeSantis.

Irishize 7644 posts Joined: Dec 1, 2018

Posted3:10 am on Oct 27, 2022

Trump will be at a November 6th rally for Marco Rubio in Florida, but DeSantis will not be there. No accident of course.

Trump is planning to run again and wants DeSantis to declare that he won't run in 2024, but he won't do so.

Trump is damaged goods, a loser clinging to delusions of grandeur, and DeSantis knows it. At least for now, he has to maintain a delicate balance in this matter, so as not to confront Trump openly and alienate his base.

Time is on his side. If litigation doesn't bring Trump down, his ego will.

Link: The Ronald McDonald War

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Careful Conservatives. The media will try to create dissention between the two. Don't fall for it.

ELP 11883 posts 12:00 pm on Oct 27, 2022

The left Ds / media are liars. So, go into this informed, well researched, and well read. DJT loves this country and so does DeSantis. Both spectacular candidates.

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Trump is proven, the only prez candidate in my life who tried 100% to keep his campaign promise.

Eli 9906 posts 9:34 am on Oct 27, 2022

I will vote for Trump in 2024 primary if he runs.

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  Uh, are you alive now?
  
  Chris94 39164 posts 9:36 am on Oct 27, 2022
  
  Biden has also tried to keep his promises, from Afghanistan to student debt to infrastructure.
  You might not like it, but he has.
  
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    To claim Afganistan as an accomplishment is truly sickening
    
    lmcdonald 1281 posts 10:47 am on Oct 27, 2022
    
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      LIke I said, you can disagree with the policy or criticize the outcome. But it was a promise kept.
      
      Chris94 39164 posts 12:50 pm on Oct 27, 2022
      
      My point was that it is crazy to say that Trump was the only president to keep promises.
      
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        You do seem to acknowledge and agree that Trump did follow
        
        WoodstockIrish 15198 posts 4:05 pm on Oct 28, 2022
        
        Through on his campaign promises
        
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      Trump's Plan: ZERO Afghani refugees allowed to leave...Biden's Plan: 120,000+ actually leave...
      
      TyroneIrish 25789 posts 12:02 pm on Oct 27, 2022
      
      That was what "Afghanistan" was all about...if all Biden wanted to do was get U.S. troops and citizens out it would have been an piece of cake...the Taliban stood by its word to not attack U.S. personnel (not so for Afghan forces)...btw, reports show that Trump wanted to pull out before he left office...DOD didn't like that.
      This whole "Afghanistan Meme" is a fabrication by the GOP...Biden's one fault was that he 'Tried Too Hard' to get as many U.S. friendly Afghanis out of there...right up to the point where ISIS was reforming under the Taliban and was able to detonate a suicide bomb that no one could have stopped...also, the U.S. citizens that stayed were aware of the plans to remove them, but for various reasons they were conflicted and chose to remain...not Biden's fault.
      
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        You have got to expand your sources. I assume in your field you still hold some level of clearances
        
        JarHead4ND 4414 posts 8:49 pm on Oct 27, 2022
        
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        No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.
        
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        No more than you or anyone else...I found this article on the web...
        
        TyroneIrish 25789 posts 1:44 am on Oct 28, 2022
        
        Woodward is an experienced investigative reporter, so when he co-authors a book, the odds are statements like this are believable...
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        Just eight days after the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump was so determined to end the war in Afghanistan during his presidency that he secretly signed a memo to withdraw all troops by January 15, 2021, according to a new book, “Peril,” from journalists Bob Woodward and Robert Costa.
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        Given that Trump essentially shutdown the issuance of Special Visas way back in 2017 that would facilitate refugee status for Afghanis upon a U.S. exit, I'm pretty sure that his sudden order to leave just before he left office was meant to involve ONLY U.S. personnel...even May 1st would have been a debacle...not the way we treated ARVN members and others who fought beside our troops. Biden, et al, worked exceptionally hard to make sure such despicable treatment did not happen...hence, the protracted exit allowing over 120,000 Afghanis to reach safety...oh, and he arranged for other nations to take Afghan refugees as well.
        Is this what you were looking for?
        Link: https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14/politics/woodward-costa-book-trump-afghanistan-memo
        
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        Complete Bullshit. Keep polishing that turd.
        
        iairishcheeks 30463 posts 2:07 pm on Oct 27, 2022
        
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        Can't be wrong, he watches MSNBC.
        
        notredame678 3806 posts 3:05 pm on Oct 27, 2022
        
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        Jersey Sucks!
        
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        Pretty emphatic on your part...care to go into the specifics?...you know I'm right about Trump and
        
        TyroneIrish 25789 posts 3:00 pm on Oct 27, 2022
        
        Biden's views on Afghan refugees....and THAT was the ONLY REASON why we pushed to exit date out until the end of August...
        
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        I posted specifics just below, it was horrific.
        
        iairishcheeks 30463 posts 5:05 pm on Oct 27, 2022
        
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    Afghanistan?
    
    iairishcheeks 30463 posts 10:13 am on Oct 27, 2022
    
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    Link: https://youtu.be/WEHXfB8wwGk
    
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      It doesn't matter how it was. The only thing that matters is a campaign promise was kept.
      
      TampaIrish 12748 posts 10:31 am on Oct 27, 2022
      
      To hell with the Americans who died and the people those savages are slaughtering, he kept the campaign promise. Same with giving the freeloaders money who made a piss poor choice in a college degree.
      
      I hold the record for most deleted posts. +143. Favorite posters must be protected!
      
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I’m not sure I’m buying into this. It’s a CNN article with no direct quotes. Could they just be

TampaIrish 12748 posts 8:19 am on Oct 27, 2022

Trying to stoke the fire and get one of them to respond? But they do have a “source” who said Trump is annoyed. We’re supposed to trust a CNN source now?

I hold the record for most deleted posts. +143. Favorite posters must be protected!

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  Bingo.
  
  BaronVonZemo 64210 posts 8:21 am on Oct 27, 2022
  
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DeSantis does not suffer from a personality disorder.

Curly1918 18375 posts 6:56 am on Oct 27, 2022

He’s also not a septuagenarian.

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  Don't let your hurt feelings from blinding you to what DJT did under immense hate during his 4 yrs.
  
  ELP 11883 posts 12:06 pm on Oct 27, 2022
  
  His mean tweets should not be a factor as his performance is what counts. All the overly sensitive grown ass men who are now squishy about his manners sure loved the gas and food prices when DJT was in the WH.
  
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Trump remains the leader of the GOP by 1000 miles.

conorlarkin 23158 posts 4:55 am on Oct 27, 2022

Trump’s power is driven by the GOP “base” — who overwhelmingly adore Trump as their Jesus, their North Star.
The GOP will seize control of the House in the mid terms. The only question is by how much. [I am on record predicting a +26 advantage]
Kevin McCarthy, who has the integrity of an alley cat, will become Speaker of the House. Driven by Trump’s influence over the GOP, McCarthy will surround himself with Far Right whack jobs like Marjorie Taylor Green, and assign Jim Jordan to run Judiciary.
The House will impeach Biden, Harris, Garland and others, not for “high crimes and misdemeanors,” but out of “revenge” because Trump was impeached twice (justifiably of course). This revenge will have more fury after Trump is indicted.
Nothing of substance will pass the House. It will simply be a chamber of pettiness and craziness and extortion using the debt ceiling.
The voters will figure out this is what happens when the Trump led GOP has control.
And in 2024, America will overwhelmingly vote Democrat.
Only then, will the GOP be forced to reboot.

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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  Excellent summary...too bad we have to go through all this in such challenging times.
  
  TyroneIrish 25789 posts 12:22 pm on Oct 27, 2022
  
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  The Dems had better look out for Youngkin...
  
  fredyo 12612 posts 9:53 am on Oct 27, 2022
  
  He's the hidden dark horse.
  
  Keep on rockin' in the free world
  
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  Just the opposite. There are a few vocal fringe Republicans fixated on Trump. It would analogous to
  
  Shadow_of_the_Dome 4842 posts 8:06 am on Oct 27, 2022
  
  saying AOC is the leader of the Democrats.
  The only people who ever talk about Trump anymore are Democrats. To Republicans, he is like that crazy old uncle you try and avoid at Thanksgiving dinner.
  
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    This is my experience.
    
    NedoftheHill 47393 posts 1:00 pm on Oct 27, 2022
    
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    Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
    
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    You wish
    
    Chris94 39164 posts 9:37 am on Oct 27, 2022
    
    Trump is the clear leader of your party. His endorsement brought us Oz and Hershel and the Arizona freaks.
    You like to think that he is the GOP fringe. Helps you sleep at night, maybe.
    
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      I do wish. Notice that people who start threads about him are not his supporters.
      
      NedoftheHill 47393 posts 1:01 pm on Oct 27, 2022
      
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      Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
      
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  To prevent the scenario that you envision, DeSantis backers should do the following:
  
  Irishize OP7644 posts 6:15 am on Oct 27, 2022
  
  Flood the November 6th meeting for Rubio. Every time Trump tries to speak, he should be booed so loudly that he can't even be heard. DeSantis signs should be seen everywhere. Trump should be literally booed off the stage.
  This template should be set for all future Trump appearances. Politicians will avoid his sponsorship and he will become a " persona non grata."
  There will be a Trump-DeSantis Armageddon eventually, so it's better to get it over with, sooner rather than later.
  
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    …pray for Trump to stroke out
    
    Chris94 39164 posts 7:19 am on Oct 27, 2022
    
    Otherwise, their boy has no chance.
    
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      so, you're saying fetterman is unqualified? he stroked out already.
      
      und67 7152 posts 11:01 am on Oct 27, 2022
      
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      msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.
      
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      Karma has a weird way of finding it's way to people like you. What a righteous human being you are.
      
      ELP 11883 posts 8:33 am on Oct 27, 2022
      
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        If you could read, you’d know i said it is what YOU have to hope for, sunshine
        
        Chris94 39164 posts 9:24 am on Oct 27, 2022
        
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        Hey Betty, this is exactly what you feel and you know it.
        
        ELP 11883 posts 9:27 am on Oct 27, 2022
        
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      Invalidity did not stop Biden nor Fetterman in D Party. Just sayin.
      
      BaronVonZemo 64210 posts 8:24 am on Oct 27, 2022
      
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