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But you like Lance and wont dare correct him.

Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=106622

The scare tactics for suburban moms was not that it exists at all. Rather, it was that it was going to get into little Dayton's or Sophia's Halloween plastic pumpkin. That part was made up but I wrote it incorrectly.

Still a scare tactic that didn't work, at least as much as it needed to.

The Holloween thing was bullshit, but fentanyl is a major problem at the moment.

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I assume you only handed out Sweetarts on Halloween. Good for you!

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$25,000 in Cash Bail...as for NY's law, check out the attached link...there is no clear connection between the crime rate and the new law...here is a pertinent excerpt from that article...

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But the best available information suggests that bail reform is not the primary driver of these increases in crime. One recent analysis by the Times Union of Albany suggested that relatively few people released under the new law went on to be rearrested for serious offenses. The Times Union reviewed state data on pretrial releases between July 2020 and June 2021, identifying nearly 100,000 cases where someone was released pretrial in a decision “related to the state’s changed bail laws.” Just 2 percent of those 100,000 cases led to a rearrest for a violent felony; of these, 429 cases led to a rearrest for a violent felony involving a firearm. Roughly one-fifth of all cases resulted in a rearrest for “any offense,” regardless of severity, such as a misdemeanor or nonviolent felony.

These findings are preliminary, and future researchers will certainly build on them. But as a first attempt to study the issue, the Times Union’s analysis suggests that as many as 80,000 people may have avoided jail incarceration due to cash bail because of the 2019–20 reforms and went on to pose no documented threat to public safety. (An opinion column in the New York Post cited the same data to argue that 43 percent of pretrial releases resulted in rearrest, but arrived at that conclusion by focusing on a small subset of just 4,062 cases.) The state’s data does not provide a point of comparison — i.e., are these rearrest rates higher or lower since bail reform’s enactment? But a dashboard maintained by the nonprofit New York City Criminal Justice Agency focusing on the percentage of people awaiting trial in the community and rearrested in a given month also appears to show little change in rearrest trends since 2019. A new report by New York City Comptroller Brad Lander cites CJA’s data to conclude that “the share of people awaiting trial in the community who are rearrested remained nearly identical before and after implementation of bail reforms.”

That means any attempt to link bail reform to rising crime should be evaluated skeptically. Indeed, some early arguments about the effects of bail reform have been directly disproven. In 2020, the New York City Police Department claimed that bail reform and recent jail releases had led to an increase in shootings. But according to a New York Post analysis, the NYPD’s own statistics proved otherwise. Between January and late June 2020, according to NYPD data reviewed by the Post, “just one person released under the statewide bail reform laws” had been charged with a shooting.
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Just another extremely shallow view of an important issue, by those desperately trying to divert attention from the GOP's absolute lack of progress in any area of American life.


Link: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/facts-bail-reform-and-crime-rates-new-york-state

failed policies or just have a biased view. There is definitely a couple reasons for the increase in crime and it started in summer 2020. Police were demonized by the left after Floyd with the whole defund the police bs and because of such, have really stepped back out of fear of losing their job or quit the force because of the nonsense. We now have far left DA's (and in some cases, Soros funded) going soft on crime. These policies are releasing criminals back into the streets too soon in certain instances. It's simple, there is no real deterrent anymore for criminals. Go talk with a Philly or NYC police officer. They will make an arrest and the person laughs and says they will be back out in a few hours..........which they are. The Dems very hardly speak out about the rise in crime because it would be admitting their policies failed or suck and the media covers up for them by rarely reporting on it. Remember all the "mostly peaceful" protests in summer 2020? Billions of dollars in damage. Thousands of police officers injured. I can remember a jackass CNN reporter saying "mostly peaceful protest" as a building was burning down behind him. It's a disgrace and will only keep getting worse until the country gets tough on crime and there's a real deterrent. Where you aren't fair is that you will only give Dem talking points or find some left opinion article to support your argument. To me, this shouldn't even be a partisan issue. Nobody wants to live in a country where there's no law and order. Philly the other week has had over 1,200 car jackings this year alone already. But you keep defending the bad guy as if they are the victim and will refuse to admit that bad policies have contributed to the problem.

of Wisconsin...here's an excerpt from those who did actually think about a reactionary law regarding crime and 'Cash Bail'...

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State Rep. Evan Goyke, D-Milwaukee, agreed with Republican members that action is needed, but said changing rules surrounding cash bail is not the way to do it. Goyke said he was a member of a recent legislative study committee on bail and pretrial release, which included judges, prosecutors and defense attorneys, and none of them talked about using cash bail as a way to keep people who might be a risk to the community in jail.

Instead, Goyke said the committee focused on fixing an existing, but unworkable pretrial detention law passed in the 1980s.

"So, under a pretrial detention system, if the court holds the individual, they cannot get out," Goyke said. "Under a cash bail system, if the individual posts that dollar amount, they can get out — whether they are determined to be dangerous or not — if they have the money."

Goyke pointed to a 2018 case in Calumet County where A MAN PAID A $10,000 CASH BOND and was released from jail after being charged with felony domestic violence ONLY TO KILL HIS WIFE DAYS LATER. He also mentioned a 2009 case in which a former surgeon who had been charged with driving under the influence of illegal prescription narcotics and killing a pregnant mother and her daughter posted a $500,000 bond and later violated terms of his release.

Adam Plotkin is a lobbyist with the Wisconsin State Public Defenders Office. In written testimony, he said the legislation includes provisions that run counter to the 5th and 8th Amendments of the U.S. Constitution. He said judges can already consider public safety, the seriousness of an offense and prior convictions when setting conditions of release other than bail.

Plotkin told WPR that cash bail creates a two-tiered system for people with means to avoid being locked up while awaiting trial while those without stay behind bars. He said that often has a disproportionate impact on people from minority groups.

"What we know from our experience is that THE MORE CASH BAIL IS USED, THE MORE PEOPLE ARE HELD PRETRIAL," Plotkin said. "And again, THAT IS DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTING PEOPLE IN POVERTY AND PEOPLE OF COLOR."

Plotkin said Wisconsin's bail system needs reform and expanding it is not the answer. He pointed to a nine-county pilot program being run by the Wisconsin Department of Justice that uses a public safety assessment tool that considers things like a defendant's age, whether an offense is violent and prior convictions to predict whether that person is likely to show up to court or re-offend after being released. (emphasis mine)
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So, read the whole article to get BOTH sides of the issue and realize that there is more to "Justice" than just arrests and jail time...we should NEVER totally disregard all pertinent factors...including those related to the accused...

Note that even the Charles Koch Family Foundation has been forceful in calling for a "De-Militarization" of Police Forces (Google it)...i.e. Re-Thinking of how policing should be done...which btw, is totally in line with BLM calls for Re-Prioritizing Police funding...and neither of them want to DEFUND police forces...so, IMO...NO ONE wants to go soft on crime...it's just that some of us want to maintain a BALANCED justice system.


Link: https://www.wpr.org/republican-lawmakers-revamp-push-give-judges-more-leeway-when-setting-cash-bail

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Happily we are all too smart to fall for that malarkey, right Ty?

Only 2% committed violent felonies! That’s only 2,000 preventable violent felonies! Well, two percent sounds better, let’s stick with that.

Only one-fifth committed any crime! That’s only 20,000 preventable crimes! Or 20%! Well, one-fifth sounds lower, let’s stick with that.

That means “nearly” 80,000 people didn’t rot in jail awaiting trial! Of course, many of them wouldn’t have anyway, regardless of this new law. But let’s just claim the new law is the reason.

That great conservative leader, Benjamin Disraeli said, “There are three types of lies. Lies, damn lies, and statistics”.

living in Utopia, which is why we have Judges who's job it is to compile ALL aspects of a case and decide what is right for both 'Society' and the 'Accused'.

Look at the Wisconsin article i've posted to get a better perspective on this issue...it covers both sides.

It's really weird. Was it always like this and I just don't recall the outright dishonesty?

This will be fun.

Maybe his wife was away and he got his posting time back. He’ll pop back in a few weeks from now with some more gems.

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They post short, arrogant, and vapid statements and then run away as quickly as they can.