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WTF. They're proposing to ban gas stove nationwide for home cooking?

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:32 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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BBQ will be next target, no more charcoal and gas grills/smokers.

I grew up with gas stove (LPG for some years then NG). With proper venting, gas stove cooking has no any problem to people's health.


Link: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-09/us-safety-agency-to-consider-ban-on-gas-stoves-amid-health-fears?leadSource=uverify%20wall

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Thread Level: 2

And Jill Biden got caught cooking recently with a gas stove. The hypocrisy is unbelievable.

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:54 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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Ahem, Dr. Jill Biden.

Author: iairishcheeks (27316 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:17 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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In some cases, the 'Sun Rises in the West' ;-)...CA is now requiring new homes to be capable of all

Author: TyroneIrish (20616 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:47 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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electric appliances...right now, it is OK to use gas, but in 2030, it will be mandatory...and could be coming to a 'State Near You'!

Any thoughts?


Link: https://gvwire.com/2022/12/16/california-ban-on-gas-appliances-starts-with-jan-1-all-electric-rule/

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Beyond idiotic - yet another knee jerk Climate Alarmist Moron policy that will have zero impact

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8036 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:11 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Mark my words...in 2030, the global energy situation will be shifting into electric overdrive when

Author: TyroneIrish (20616 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:30 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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it comes to heat and power...no one is going to ask if you like it or not...so best to set your expectations accordingly...if nothing else, the prices will help nudge people to convert.

I'll bet gas service will be available to all existing users for a long time, so the transition will be gradual...no need to storm the Capitol just yet.


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No, mark my words

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8036 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:27 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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Oil, gas, coal and biomass (wood) will provide the vast majority of the world’s energy in 2030….and 2040…..and 2050….and 2060.

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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What makes you say that?

Author: TyroneIrish (20616 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:37 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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For starters, I have a brain. Big advantage.

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8036 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:10 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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Renewables will remain a small percentage of energy production for a very long time. Simply too expensive, too inefficient, and the green benefits are dramatically exaggerated. Fossil fuels are relatively cheap, plentiful and provide reliable, dependable energy. And that’s not even considering the net new global energy needs that some groups have estimated to be 50% above and beyond current energy demands, that will largely come from the developing world, especially Africa. The only possible way to meet these demands will be with fossil fuels.

'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Yes, Nigel, you do have a brain, but you're not using it to its fullest capability...case in point..

Author: TyroneIrish (20616 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:16 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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I did not see the words "Nuclear Power" in your response, nor did you consider how Renewables can be used in consort with Nuclear Reactors to provide assured power 24/7 without exorbitant storage costs.

I've posted comments and links on NP several times...especially wrt the newest designs that already have funding and NRC approval for construction, and will be producing power starting in 2028...if you haven't read them, do a search under my board name and perhaps you'll fill your brain with sufficient information to make a better decision....in the meantime, take a look at the attached link from MIT...

You also refuse to let into your brain the fact that 193 countries and the EU have all accepted the Paris Agreement...if there were no palpable problem with Fossil Fuels affecting humanity's ability to deal with Climate Change it would be lunacy for all those countries to burden themselves with such a challenging task...add to that, you also have refused to acknowledge our most reliable source on Fossil Fuel Resources (EIA) which states that the U.S. has only FIVE YEARS of Proven Oil Reserves remaining if we stopped importing, given our current consumption rate....btw, BP (British Petroleum) pegs the World's remaining Proven Reserves at 47 years...and even if you suddenly doubled that figure overnight, we have little time to shift to other resources.

In short, the 'Morons' are those who won't even try to understand what's going on about them, and fail to "Look Up".

I encourage you to respond...I'm prepared...are you?


Link: https://energy.mit.edu/news/keeping-the-balance-how-flexible-nuclear-operation-can-help-add-more-wind-and-solar-to-the-grid/

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Riddle me this, Ty

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8036 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:38 am on Jan 11, 2023
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You love to cite the Paris Climate Accord in climate discussions. Strange, since it’s worthless pile of shit, with no enforcement mechanism, no penalties for failure, nothing to hold countries accountable. The world’s #1 emitter pledged that their emissions would continue to growth until 2030, and this is viewed as progress. And this was in 2015, so China pledged to keep increasing emissions for 15 years. Wait, what? Paris rocks!

How many signatories are actually meeting their commitments? As is, actually living up to their pledges. I don’t really care since the whole thing is worthless, but someone must track this. I’m guessing less than 10%. We know China is holding up their end, so that’s 1!

But boy the Climate Alarmist Moron crowd just eats this shit up. Lookee there, India pledged to be carbon neutral by 2070! Hosanna! So righteous! It’s a fucking joke.

I pledge to be a billionaire by 2035, so there’s no issue with me laying out $8K for that new bike I just got. None whatsoever.


'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Perhaps it would help if you thought of the Paris Agreement as a "Mission Statement" by all the

Author: TyroneIrish (20616 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:29 am on Jan 11, 2023
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nations of the world, and a commitment to steadily make changes...however uncoordinated...in their use of energy resources. Those changes are being made...China for instance has a plan to build over 220 nuclear power plants, and they are following that plan. Why would they do that if Fossil Fuels were the way to go?...India is doing something similar, but on a smaller scale thus far.

It takes time to make these changes and not everyone has the financial, technical nor political ability to move at "warp speed" in this endeavor...it is a monumental challenge, yet all of them are committed to the end goal...i.e. stop burning precious Fossil Fuels for heat and power when there are other more sustainable resources available.

If you can put your emotions aside for a moment, explain - with data - what you think will happen to our current living environment (e.g. Food, Coastal Cities) if CO2 levels are doubled virtually "Instantaneously", from a historical perspective, in the next 50 years?


Link: https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/

https://climate.nasa.gov/rails/active_storage/blobs/redirect/eyJfcmFpbHMiOnsibWVzc2FnZSI6IkJBaHBBbTB1IiwiZXhwIjpudWxsLCJwdXIiOiJibG9iX2lkIn19--316f6ecc3277fe90f8001ccabd62210d74792a1d/co2_left_061720.gif?disposition=inline

Thread Level: 3

It would be an easy court case for the gas companies.

Author: PaND (2726 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 5:41 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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Absolutely ridiculous own goal in the state that leads in that category.

Author: Iggle (12628 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 5:29 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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You morons deserve what you get.

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Great news for the rest of us as this will keep gas prices lower.

Author: Curly1918 (16482 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 5:25 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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What sucks is the exodus of blue staters to red states because of this kind of nonsense

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fucking stupid and more inflationary regulations killing low income citizens

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:21 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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I believe it says, "considering" not proposing. It won't happen.

Author: Hibakusha (4668 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:24 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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It already happened here in Seattle. The city passed the law during the peak of pandemic

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:58 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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On Feb 2021 so that nobody noticed it: No gas line for any new residential housing. No gas line, certainly no problem to ban gas stove.

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Seattle? Did you ever get to visit that suburb called CHAZ / CHOP in 2020? Pretty high crime rate.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 4:47 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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No. It's not suburb, very close to downtown. It's Catholic Hill 100 yrs ago. Now it's Communist Hill

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:28 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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Brilliant of Mayor Libby to let the mob take over 6 blocks. What could possibly go wrong? If I

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 7:35 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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remember correctly it got shut down after two kids got murdered.

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How could you allow them to “consider it”? And we all also know that

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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“Consider it” means that they want to do it if they can get away with it.

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Probably just gas lighting.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:31 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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LOL. That's a hot one.

Author: ELP (9603 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 5:08 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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We could eat beans and be gas self-sufficient.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 2:41 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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Fook that noise! Would never use an electric stovetop. Need to see/control flame.

Author: conorlarkin (21057 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:18 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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You can have a microwave and a roll of aluminum foil.

Author: iairishcheeks (27316 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:20 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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I'll pass.

Author: conorlarkin (21057 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:26 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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It's not about health. It's about climate change. They want you to cook off an electric stovetop

Author: Cole (16200 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 1:34 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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powered by unicorn farts turning windmills.

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No! They don't want oil rich states to thrive.

Author: Curly1918 (16482 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 2:06 pm on Jan 10, 2023
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