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Forget Twittergate..."Fox News stars and executives privately trashed Trump’s election fraud claims"

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:49 am on Feb 17, 2023
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yet they still promoted the "Pro-Trump" narrative..."Why?" you ask...easy...because they're in it for the $$$...not the truth....some excerpts...btw, let us know if you've heard these comments on FOX...
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In one set of messages revealed in the court filing, Carlson texted Ingraham, saying that Sidney Powell, an attorney who was representing the Trump campaign, was “lying” and that he had “caught her” doing so. Ingraham responded, “Sidney is a complete nut. No one will work with her. Ditto with Rudy [Giuliani].”
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The messages also revealed that Rupert Murdoch, the chairman of Fox Corporation, did not believe Trump’s election lies and even floated the idea of having Carlson, Hannity, and Ingraham appear together in prime time to declare Joe Biden as the rightful winner of the election.

Such an act, Murdoch said, “Would go a long way to stop the Trump myth that the election stolen.”
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In multiple instances, Fox News executives and hosts expressed worry over the matter and started to crack down on those at the network who fact-checked election lies. In one case, after White House correspondent Jacqui Heinrich fact-checked a Trump tweet pushing election fraud, Carlson said he wanted her fired.

“Please get her fired,” Carlson told Hannity over text message. “Seriously … what the f**k? I’m actually shocked … It needs to stop immediately, like tonight. It’s measurably hurting the company.”

Hannity replied that he had already spoken to Suzanne Scott, the network’s chief executive. The next morning, Heinrich’s tweet had been deleted.
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Despite what appeared on air, Fox News executives and hosts privately criticized the Trump camp for pushing claims of election fraud, the messages showed. Hannity even said Giuliani was “acting like an insane person” and Ingraham described him as “an idiot.” Rupert Murdoch said it was “really bad” that Giuliani was advising Trump.

The court filing also revealed that Fox News executives had criticized some of the network’s top talent behind the scenes. Jay Wallace, the network president, said that “the North Koreans” did a “more nuanced show” than then-host Lou Dobbs. Jerry Andrews, the executive producer of “Justice with Judge Jeanine,” referred to host Jeanine Pirro as “nuts.”
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While FOX is obviously disputing all of this..."..the court document provided a mountain of evidence exposing Fox News as a right-wing talk channel void of the most basic journalistic ethics."...FOX lawyers will be "challenged" to convince a jury that the company is an upstanding news organization.

btw, just imagine where we'd be right now if FOX had told the truth back then...no Capitol Police Officers killed...Ashlii Babbitt still alive...hundreds of prison cells unfilled with Trump followers...etc. etc.


Link: https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/16/media/fox-news-stars-executives-court-documents/index.html

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You selective outrage seems to forget about how your news sources have lied to you and America over

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:06 am on Feb 17, 2023
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the recent years. The MSM has had way more corrections and redactions than Fox, and when they do it, they bury it on like page 23 and spend as little time as possible on the topic. Funny how your cut and paste basically only mentioned opinion hosts and not people like Brett Baier or Cavuto. But I get it. Fox is an easy target for the left. If it wasn't for conservative news to point out the lefts lies and hypocrisy, our media would be no different than China's or NK's. And don't forget the jealousy factor, Fox crushes the competition in the ratings.

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Cite an example of MSM execs and on-air talent agreeing their content was false and broadcasting it

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:40 am on Feb 17, 2023
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anyway...and also admitting that their financial interests where the reason doing it.

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That’s okay, he’s going to argue his lack of fact anyway.

Author: jimbasil (52693 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:56 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Brilliant! FOX TV facilitated a magaphone for Trump & pals to lie

Author: jimbasil (52693 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:42 am on Feb 17, 2023
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to the nation often inventing falsehoods and narratives (could be why they’re bing sued for billions right now) and you’re carping that the MSM collective, sans FOX has more retractions for incorrect info than FOX!?!

Yeah, FOX TV is an easy target for the left! Mouth-pieces like Hannity and Carlson who lie and spew falsehoods daily make them that easy target. The millions of gullible morons out there (one has to assume you’re one of them) are suckered everyday by FOX and you wonder why smart people deride them and the likes of you.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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You were suckered by Maddow, Stelter, Lemon, Reid, etc. Give me a break. Your side is no better

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:46 am on Feb 17, 2023
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and you know it.

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You mean they suckered people in when they said Trump was an A1 grifter?

Author: jimbasil (52693 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:44 am on Feb 17, 2023
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We were suckered when they pointed out the tens of thousands of lies and falsehoods Trump told to Americans for 5 years (and continues to tell)? We were suckered when they reported many R’s want to cut SS, Medicare the ACA? I could go on for days about the accuracy of their reporting and how you and your group just don’t like it. - Helsinki, North Korea, charities he stole from - fake Universities. All reported by those people you mentioned and falsely reported by FOX TV.

But please - make some comparisons.

You don’t have a leg to stand on.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Don Lemon is really credible, eh?

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:14 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Tucker is always “just asking questions”

Author: Chris94 (36783 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:03 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Sure, he always knows the answers…but it is so much better for the ratings to imply gigantic conspiracies that the right-wing dopes will run with.

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Just trying to keep up with the left wing dopes who embraced "Russian Collusion".

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:54 am on Feb 17, 2023
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…which was confirmed but MAGA nation is unaware

Author: Chris94 (36783 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:43 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Ask Mueller, he said no, dumb ass

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:09 am on Feb 17, 2023
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The GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee said "Yes"...

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:07 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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as for Mueller, he said his report DID NOT exonerate Trump.

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You know a prosecutor and investigators job isn’t to exonerate everyone. They look at the.

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 12:42 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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facts of a case and see if there’s enough evidence to charge someone.

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The Senate Committee presented clear evidence of close ties between Russia and the Trump

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:10 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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campaign...do you deny that?...are you even aware of that?

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Are you aware investigators don’t exonerate everyone? I guess Don didn’t

Author: MuskyTommy (3947 Posts - Joined: Feb 7, 2012)

Posted at 1:35 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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help Russia in 4 years so they didn’t help him i2020.

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Obviously, yr reading comprehension is poor. Mueller said no collusion. Exonerate was never

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:33 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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mentioned except by you. Google: Mueller finds " No Collusion" and see how many hits you, windbag

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Because of Trump's actions in "Volume II", Mueller was 'unable' to gather sufficient evidence to

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:04 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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support the high bar finding of 'Conspiracy' in "Volume I" of his report...in addition, there is video of Mueller clearly stating that his report does NOT exonerate Trump.

Link: https://www.lawfareblog.com/obstruction-justice-mueller-report-heat-map

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So no real answer, per usual .Did Mueller say No Collison? Yes or No. No evasive bullshit

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:56 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Watch and learn...

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:21 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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No evasion on his part...(nor mine)...Mueller DID NOT EXONERATE DONALD TRUMP...




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Did he say "No Collusion? This you in a nut shell, won't answer a direct question. Yes or No.

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:30 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Pussy

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Oh my goodness! Then what happened?

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:12 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Who confirmed it? The Washington Post? Mueller didn't.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:07 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Have someone read the Mueller report to you.

Author: Chris94 (36783 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:36 am on Feb 17, 2023
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I can read. You can't. No collusion. Trump may have expected help,but did not conspire.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:09 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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One Tucker Carlson is worth more than the entire collection of MSM doormats and lackeys.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 9:26 am on Feb 17, 2023
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To you, money buys truth. An absolute shame.

Author: jimbasil (52693 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:46 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Washington's face is on the dollar. He never told a lie.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:18 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Are you comparing government involvement in supressing speech

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:15 am on Feb 17, 2023
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to a right-wing media source showing bias for a right-wing politician?

A) How do you not realize how ridiculous that is?
B) How do you not realize that the same thought process that brought you to the conclusion that you are making an interesting comparison in this case, is the same thought process that leads you to flawed conclusions in almost every instance? You've got a broken brain, bud.


aka Cletus
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FOX News lied to you and America...the evidence proves it...care to disagree?

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:27 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Of course I don't disagree. I do disagree that Fox News is the only media outlet that is lying to us

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:36 am on Feb 17, 2023
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And I take offense to the fact that you are now calling MSM bias "lying" when you refer to Fauci's lying as "downplaying."

And I also take offense to the idea that you are trying to pass off MSM bias as equivalent to the government being actively engaged in an effort to suppress speech.


aka Cletus
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Cite one example of the NYT, WaPo, MSNBC, CNN, etc. executives and on-air speakers agreeing

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:22 am on Feb 17, 2023
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that the content they were delivering was absolutely false...and continued to do it even when challenged...you'll need evidence, not opinions and hurt feelings.

FOX News is now clearly exposed for the frauds that they are...and if you like conspiracy theories, look no further than this episode of "Propaganda For Profit".


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No.

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:33 am on Feb 17, 2023
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I'm not playing that game with you. Your ignorance and nativity does not justify work on my part. Pay attention for 5 fucking minutes and you'll have plenty of examples of total MSM bias.

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aka Cletus
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All I can say is thanks for the belly laugh...

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:09 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Now you know how we feel about your long-winded bullshit stories,

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:11 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Why don't you file a class action suit and see if we can get any damages awarded?

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:36 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Did FOX News knowingly lie to the public about the 2020 election?

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:41 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Missed my point. Nobody cares unless it is legally actionable.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:46 am on Feb 17, 2023
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You didn’t know this already?

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 8:01 am on Feb 17, 2023
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I was going to make a similar post. If this doesn't discredit FOX as a "news" agency

Author: Quest4twelve (6737 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 6:00 am on Feb 17, 2023
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I don't know what does. I seriously hope Dominion takes them for $1B at least.

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Holy crap.

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:25 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Guys, polls show that conservatives get their news from multiple sources where as liberals only get their news from liberal news outlets.

Conservatives know what Fox News is doing.
Conservatives know what CNN, MSNBC, WaPo and NYT are doing.

They consume all of those sources to get ALL of the perspectives so they can try to sift through the bias.

Until other news sources start providing a different perspective (like The Hill and Breaking Points), Fox will keep it's foothold...and that's a good thing because it would be terrible for this county to completely eliminate differing opinions.


aka Cletus
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So tell us - what are all those news orgs doing?

Author: jimbasil (52693 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 1:11 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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You need me to clarify? You can't tell from context?

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:22 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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They are reporting news with a liberal slant. You really didn't know that?

Oh that's right, you couldn't figure out how to find one of the 100 media bias charts on the Internet.


aka Cletus
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How about this for clarification - no poll shows conservatives

Author: jimbasil (52693 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:51 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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seek multiple sources for their news.

And an FYI, most Libs I know do their due diligence and seek information from known reputable conservative sources (of which are almost none remaining) as well as the likes of NPR, CNN, WoPo, NYTIMES, the New Yorker as well as many other.

And if we take a look at this forum, you far right cons receive your information from, OAN, Epoch Times, NewsMax, FOX - Sinclair news along with multiple YouTube channels. All of which report the exact same misinformation and falsehoods. All of that repeated here daily.

You guys couldn’t find real facts if they were handed to you -


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 4

FOX has shaken America to its core. How can this Nation survive while they exist.?

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:40 am on Feb 17, 2023
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They are bad lying meanie meanies who roam about the Earth seeking the ruin of souls.

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Walter Cronkite took the "news" with him to his grave.

Author: Curly1918 (16482 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 6:56 am on Feb 17, 2023
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If you believe there is any objective news anymore you probabsly will be searching for Easter eggs in a few weeks.

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Fair enough... but what are Dem insiders saying about Biden?

Author: Curly1918 (16482 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 5:29 am on Feb 17, 2023
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The truth is that we should all be embarrassed by our own electoral cholces.

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Very creative "Whataboutism" and "False Equivalence", Curly...all in one...bravo.

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:37 am on Feb 17, 2023
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IMO "FOX's Fraud" should be used in every trial related to Jan. 6th...given the network's near ubiquitous reach to American Conservatives, they bear responsibility for every criminal and civil breach related to that criminal insurrection.

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Does Kamala have responsibility for encouraging rioting during the summer of love when she said she

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:17 am on Feb 17, 2023
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help bail out anyone arrested? And there were others too. The MSM never showed the extent of the rioting, looting, and burning of cities and created a false narrative as they always do. I'm amazed how you always justify everything being spouted out from the left. That's simply impossible that they are always correct. You probably don't think the southern border is an issue either or that Philadelphia, Chicago and NYC are safe cities.

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You forgot "deflection", "misinformation" and "Russian collusion". "Buzz" off.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:43 am on Feb 17, 2023
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LOL...this "Expose'" of FOX News isn't going away...EVER...you need to find a way to deal with it..

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:49 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Exactly what will happen? Executions for Treason? Library cards revoked?

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:51 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Let's start with a $1.6B suit by Dominion Voting Machines vs. FOX; then let's move onto Trump's 2024

Author: TyroneIrish (20615 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:31 am on Feb 17, 2023
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campaign...how's it going to fly for him with clear evidence that even FOX executives and on-air luminaries didn't believe his claim of a 'Stolen Election"...these are just a couple 'ripple effects'

Bottom line...if you're looking for the truth, you need to find a source other than FOX.


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Nothing has been decided on that yet.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:59 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:01 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Meanwhile, numerous Fox News “marks” on this Board continue to drink the snake oil.

Author: conorlarkin (21056 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:29 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Fox News knows their “base” as did Trump. They knew how easily Hayseeds can be manipulated and led to consume conspiracy theories and utter nonsense.

We constantly see the fruits of such exploitation on this Board.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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That's why it's called Fox Noise. All Republicans are liars and scum.

Author: NocalIrish (1344 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2021)

Posted at 6:25 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Thank God for MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, NYT, WASH POST, and LAT.

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Yes, because this board teems with adoration for Trump.

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:18 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Someday I need to build a bot that will comb this board and tally all the times that you wildly mischaracterize the position of it's members

Why do you do that?


aka Cletus
Thread Level: 4

Ty watches Lawrence O'Donnell, Conor watches Rachel Maddow.

Author: iairishcheeks (27316 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:07 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Jim is Brian Stelter.

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The walls are closing in. It's the beginning of the end.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:49 am on Feb 17, 2023
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There will be, once again, by mid-2024

Author: Chris94 (36783 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:07 am on Feb 17, 2023
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Trump is in the rear view mirror. Get over It.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:19 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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I know how you people operate.

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:54 am on Feb 17, 2023
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I lived through the Trump years. I never supported him. I couldn't stomach voting for him. But if I defended a single thing he did, I suddenly became a misogynistic, far-right MAGA racist. You'll have to excuse me if I take your definition of 'adoration' with a grain of salt.

aka Cletus
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You were not on this board during the Trump years

Author: Chris94 (36783 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:38 am on Feb 17, 2023
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The adoration was tremendous and consistent. Constant defense of his abominations.

You’ll see it again soon.


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Stark was on the board all through the Trump admin.

Author: jimbasil (52693 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:59 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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If Trump is once again the nominee, he will once again vote for him.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Hahaha.

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:07 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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Great point, Jim. You're doing real good.

aka Cletus
Thread Level: 7

We'll hold each other's hair back as we take turns puking.

Author: jabbadoody5 (19852 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:03 pm on Feb 17, 2023
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aka Cletus
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Calling people “fruits” isn’t woke. It’s offensive to LGBTQIA Americans.

Author: Hensou (8168 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:55 am on Feb 17, 2023
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You should be ashamed of yourself.

I am none of those letters, but I respect my fellow Americans.


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I love the idea of you lefties tripping over your own feet to post this breaking news.

Author: ELP (9602 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 8:16 am on Feb 17, 2023
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You idiots scour the internet looking for something, anything. It's more hilarious than late night comedy. Of course, a life insurance seminar is more hilarious than late night comedy, but, I digress. I mean, envision this scenario. Our lefties read this all important damning news, rush to their feet, spill their coffee all over their toy poodle laying on their lap, and silly walk as fast as they can to post this on a free anonymous message board. Very NYT of you all.

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