Biden won't be charged in documents case because he is "elderly man with a poor memory" - SC Hur
“Our investigation uncovered evidence that President Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen,” Hur wrote.
“He knew he kept classified information in notebooks stored in his house and he knew he was not allowed to do so.”
BUT:
“In his interview with our office, Mr. Biden’s memory was worse,” Hur wrote.
“He did not remember when he was vice president, forgetting on the first day of the interview when his term ended (‘if it was 2013 - when did I stop being Vice President?’), and forgetting on the second day of the interview when his term began (‘in 2009, am I still Vice President?’),” the report said.
“He did not remember, even within several years, when his son Beau died. And his memory appeared hazy when describing the Afghanistan debate that was once so important to him,” Hur wrote. “Among other things, he mistakenly said he “had a real difference” of opinion with General Karl Eikenberry, when, in fact, Eikenberry was an ally whom Mr. Biden cited approvingly in his Thanksgiving memo to President Obama.”
“In a case where the government must prove that Mr. Biden knew he had possession of the classified Afghanistan documents after the vice presidency and chose to keep those documents, knowing he was violating the law, we expect that at trial, his attorneys would emphasize these limitations in his recall,” the special counsel added.
Link: https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/08/biden-docs-probe-final-report-issued-by-special-counsel-robert-hur-.html
Replies to: Biden won't be charged in documents case because he is "elderly man with a poor memory" - SC Hur
A Trump appointee & bootlicker cleared Biden of criminal charges. End of headline, bozo.
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This is 25th amendment stuff. He couldn’t remember to within a few years of when his son died.
He didn’t know when his vice presidential term began or ended. They won’t let him do a softball interview before the fucking Super Bowl. He is CLEARLY unfit. And his backup is a total moron.
This shuffling, incontinent geezer holds the nuclear football, you dope. And you want to set him up until age 85. Insanity.
Because Biden is so mentally unfit that he can't be held responsible. You forgot that part.
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Where does it say that? Give me the cite.
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Say what? I didn't use quotes anywhere, so I'm curious what you are asking about.
Are you going to nitpick my language? Make a technical argument that Biden could be held responsible, but the special counsel just didn't want to hold him responsible because he felt bad for him given his diminished capacity?
Yeah, that is a winner. Go for it. Your technical defense will reinforce my general point.
No what language was used that says he was mentally unfit and can’t be held responsible?
Below you claim it said he was unfit to stand trial.
Those are not technical mistakes.
The opinion says he has memory issues which he does.it says nothing about his mental fitness or fitness to stand trial.
Reread Iggle's link. The S.C. doesn't want to prosecute because of Biden's diminished capapacity.
Do you think Biden is mentally competent to be president, even though he can't remember when his son died, or when he was in office, or that he claimed to talk to dead people 3 times this week? It is looking very bad for Biden. Very bad.
Reread my response . That’s an asinine oversimplification.
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They are direct quotes you fucking liar.
Being run in the main stream media.
No kidding, dipshit. In a 388-page document.
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Here is what was actually said.
But Hur added that the evidence “does not establish Mr. Biden’s guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.”
“We have also considered that, at trial, Mr. Biden would likely present himself to a jury, as he did during our interview of him, as a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory,” the special counsel said.
“We conclude that no criminal charges are warranted in this matter,” the report said. “We reach the same conclusion even if Department of Justice policy did not foreclose criminal charges against a sitting president.”
In other words the first consideration was that the evidence does not establish guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. And he is a sympathetic old man with a poor memory. It doesn’t say he’s mentally unfit or unfit to stand trial.
Wish it were that easy. Horrible look for Biden and the D’s.
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Jos Bader Biden needs to retire. He is a decent, but tired old man. Unfortunately many around him
that hold power by proxy are advising him to carry on. Not sure he even survives a 2d term which is sort of scary in its own right.
Worst, almost the entire Republican Party seems to have lost its way so there is unlikely to be a good alternative.
So true. The GOP provides a much worse alternative. That doesn’t excuse the D’s though from doing
whats best for the nation.
Biden failed to comply w/ release of secret docs on 4 consec occasions&lied each time that all were
released when in fact more were still in his possession.
To explain this, his lawyers are using the doddering old man argument that "he didn't realize" and " he forgot". FOUR times in a row.
And never once did the Biden DOJ raid Bideb's residence or buildings , but instead gave him a heads up and accepted his word each time.
Meanwhile, look at how they treated Trump with the midnight raid without warning for the only incidence when his lawyers and he were still negotiating the situation.
2 tiered justice from the Biden DOJ.
This is what criminal conduct looks like:
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Link: http://chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf
No answer to the facts. Just puerile meme's from a lib MSM comedian.
Biden was far more guilty in the document case than Trump, but i would just settle for equal treatment which will never happen in the Biden DOJ.
Facts??? Have you bothered to read Special Counsel's Report and Findings????
Do so. The you can weigh in, like an adult.
Hiding docs while raiding Trump for it, then withheld docs on 4 occasions thereafter. Facts.
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That’s obviously not why he won’t be charged
He did say that, though. An oddly gratuitous, unprofessional shot at the president.
Doesn’t mean it’s not true. And it worries every Democrat.
But it does mean that this Hur character is an asshole.
He may be an asshole but isn’t wrong. The D’s need to come their senses on Old Joe.
We know the GOP won’t on Dr. Demento.
Someone needs to tell Biden he is doing incalculable damage to the Republic by not stepping aside.
It’s further proof of his declining cognitive abilities.
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Obviously. The real reason is that Biden controls the DOJ. But hilariously, it is his excuse.
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This clown shouldn't be allowed to go on much longer
Its far too long now he's been a laughingstock and embarrassment to US..
So…he controls the DOJ but allowed this horribly damaging report to be released?
Odd, eh?
You become more of a caricature every day.
He's not being charged. Few will remember the report by election & they know it. 2 Tier justice.
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It's a direct quote.
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There are 388 pages of legal reasoning.
That was not the reason he wasn’t charged. It was a minor consideration added on for obviously partisan reasons.
But you won’t read it, so you won’t know.
Takes a lot of spin to pretend to justify a different treatment of one than the other.
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JB's performance in office far exceeds DJT's...plus he's not a defendant in any criminal trials...
and the two are virtually the same age.
Absolutely true
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True so far. Not absolute.
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Would you support replacing him with Newsome or another?
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Yes, in the meantime, he’s still preferable to even more demented Trump.
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Even though he is mentally unfit to stand trial? Isn't this why we have the 25th Amendment?
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Where does it say he is mentally unfit to stand trial?
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The Special Counsel said he considered that a factor in recommending no prosecution. Biden is unfit.
Your technical argument, trying to differentiate between my precise words, and the precise words of the special counsel ("I did not, have, sexual relations, with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky"), only call further attention to the general point: Biden is unfit. I can't believe I'm saying this, but I now think Kamala Harris would be a major improvement as president.
Because words matter and what you say is not accurate,
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"not accurate"? Whatever. My words accurately convey the truth. Biden is unfit.
Score whatever points you want against me here in the forum, but lose the main point: Biden is unfit.
That’s your interpretation. The words are above and you aren’t accurate as usual.
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I’m not happy he’s going to be the nominee
Is it terrifying that that geezer is the only thing standing between us and four years of non-stop, destructive unpredictable constitutional crises?
You bet it is.
But there really isn’t a damn thing I can do about it, is there. We all just have to hope America votes for the geezer.
You always have a choice.
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It’s like the 84 election in LA when Klan leader and GOP nominee, David Duke was running against
Edwards. The bumper stickers were “vote for the crook, it’s that important”. Edwards won.
25th Amendment. Kamala might actually be better.
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Everything's fine! Four more years!!!
You crazy morons are nominating this CLEARLY impaired old man.
Not much I can do about it.
It will come down to the really old man vs. the pretty old man who is a threat to the republic.
Not a tough choice.
You prefer an unknown puppeteer running our country to your rival. You'd sacrifice the democracy.
Because we all know that Biden is not in charge.
Your idiotic denials of his dementia are shifting now (though you still hide behind the term "really old" rather than specifically saying the real truth).
There is a LOT that you can do about it...and you did for the past 4 years...you fostered this, and until now, you looked the other way.
You pretend to throw up your arms and say, "Oh well, nothing I can do but watch" after all of your long support?!
despite your hyperbole about Trump, we have a sampling of him as president - and he was good. I prefer that to having an unknown someone in charge who is not chosen by the voters nor answerable to them.
Again, buffoonish caricature
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Are you saying that you know who is pulling Biden's strings? Biden is surely not running the country
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As with COVID, you're shifting your stance after it becomes undeniable while hiding behind bluster.
You were/are poorly thought out, Chris.
Remember how you scoffed at the thought of Biden having dementia? You still won't say it by name (now you've pivoted to "really old codger").
Remember when you were saying that there is no border crisis?
The list is so long.
Their words, not ours,lol
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