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Student loan relief.

Author: Quest4twelve (6683 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 3:13 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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Some statistics regarding those who take on loans. Like middle class tax cuts, it is designed to supposedly spend money on things such has home purchases, etc. The counter argument that tax payers are on the hook is ridiculous. First of all these people pay taxes as well. Secondly, no new taxes have been issued to take more money out of your pocket to cover the relief. If you're not mad at corporate tax cuts then you can't belly ache about this.

  • 54.1% of independent undergraduate students accepted federal student loans.
  • Middle-income students are most likely to take out federal loans at 58.4%.
  • 63.6% of students living in campus housing use federal loans.
  • 39.7% of college students living with their parents accept federal loans.
  • 52.0% of married undergraduates accepted federal student loans.


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Thread Level: 2

But our national debt grows and grows. If we aren't paying the loans we are responsible for then

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 10:28 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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that lack of payment has to be booked somewhere, moron.

Thread Level: 2

So...now we have nationalized college education.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:10 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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Thread Level: 3

Who else would pay Chris?

Author: Cole (16183 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 7:15 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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Thread Level: 2

Why not mortgage debt? Auto loan debt? Credit card debt?

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 5:01 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

Why not another tax cut for billionaires? Again, all sides of politics have given up any sense of

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:27 pm on Apr 13, 2024
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fiscal responsibility. Anymore it’s just how and where you want to waste the money.

By the way the loan forgiveness is a pandering terrible idea.


Thread Level: 3

Gambling debt.

Author: ELP (9578 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 7:17 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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Thread Level: 2

This is a red line. Unless I get reimbursed for my tuitions, I can never vote Dem b/c of this.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 5:00 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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This is about fairness. This is disgustingly unfair, and it is purely an attempt to buy votes.

I joined the military to save on education costs.
I paid my loans. I saved and paid for all my kids. Fuck any party or any person who supports this...unless they want to pay for all the tuitions I paid at a similar level.

The amazing thing is that this all comes out of Obamacare...when we had to pass the bill before we could see what was in it. At the time, even I didn't think Obama was that crass to try to buy votes like this by paying the banks and then forgiving the debt. But, it is one of the ways Dems stay in power. Fuck the Democrats for this.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 3

I agree that student loan relief is fundamentally unfair.

Author: conorlarkin (21011 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:06 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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It is unfair to the families who responsibly saved money to pay for their kids’ tuitions.

I do favor public service as a path to forgive student loans.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
Thread Level: 4

Agree. Public service is a great idea.

Author: Domer From Hell (16312 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:17 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 5

I did public service...and I paid my bills. F them.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:31 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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This is one issue that I am very passionate about......obviously. There is no way to defend this. And yet, Quest4Biden, a paid shill for the DNC, comes here and raises the issue on his own. Shameful.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 6

I hear you. The GI Bill paid for part my education, too….

Author: Domer From Hell (16312 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:01 pm on Apr 13, 2024
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Conor raised a good point. Why not have them work off their debt by serving? It’s like earning the GI Bill in reverse.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 3

I laugh at the “attempt to buy votes” they are politicians.

Author: Quest4twelve (6683 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 5:23 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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It was Bidens campaign promise but they all pander. You just move here?

Why aren’t you as mad that the middle class tax cuts weren’t permanent?


Thread Level: 4

Reward idiots. Reward universities. Totally offensive.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 6:32 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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Why not reward the smart and diligent people? Because they won't fall for your bullshit?

If the Dems keep pushing this without offering to pay the many tuitions I've paid, then they are dead to me. Fuck them.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 5

Your ability and inclination to pay off college loans is just another sign of your privilege.

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:57 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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You probably even majored in some privileged field that landed you a job with other privileged college loans payers.

Thread Level: 6

Yeah...I picked a major that would employ me. Dems don't like independent people.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:00 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 7

This is why you're the problem.

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:36 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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Independent thought is more dangerous than unvaccinated children going to school.

Thread Level: 8

I told my kids they could get hobby degrees if they wanted, but they had to pay for them themselves.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 2:55 am on Apr 13, 2024
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Amazingly, they all chose degrees that would get them good jobs.

Conor would call that tough love...while he hands out money to people who choose hobby degrees. Tough love enables people. If he enables his own party's voters, they might not need his party handouts anymore. So, they get the drug...the handouts. Keep them hooked on government assistance. Quest4Biden is here to spread the propaganda.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 9

AOC says this will allow people to start a family, buy a home or go back to school

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:34 am on Apr 13, 2024
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I wonder if it will have any effect on inflation.

Thread Level: 10

Go back to school? More loans for the Masters in Gender Studies?

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:52 pm on Apr 13, 2024
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Thread Level: 3

100%.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 5:11 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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Thread Level: 2

The problem is that it does nothing to address the root cause of the problem

Author: iairishcheeks (27167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:13 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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In fact, it exacerbates it.

Thread Level: 3

Yep.

Author: TakethetrainKnute (33495 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:07 pm on Apr 13, 2024
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Thread Level: 3

^^^^ This ^^^^^

Author: Shadow_of_the_Dome (4618 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:40 pm on Apr 12, 2024
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