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The evolution of Mike Johnson on Ukraine

Author: Chris94 (36797 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:31 am on Apr 21, 2024
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Hats off to the speaker, who has come to understand that, in order for there to be peace, Ukraine needs to be able to negotiate from a position of strength.

He was influenced by his intel briefings, which I’m gonna bet made this case.

It’s the right policy.


Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/04/21/ukraine-aid-mike-johnson-house-speaker/

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Thread Level: 2

Nonsense. If Intel can convince him to change mind, why not give intelligence to other congress mem

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:51 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Who against the bill so that they can change their minds too? Or why not he told more than half of R congress members who against the bill about what he learned from intel to let them change their stand on the bill?
Also, if he voted no on Ukraine aid bill 2 years ago, it is illogical for him to vote yes today.


Thread Level: 2

What do they see as"a position of strength negotiation" when they already didn't want to last time?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60149 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:26 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Neither Zelensky nor Biden wanted to negotiate with Putin when things were looking good for them. They wanted him pushed out. But that isn't really going to happen, even if it appears promising.
What makes you think that the same people involved will make a different decision next time if we are lucky enough to have this huge amount of money create this opportunity (which is no guarantee and in fact unlikely)?


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Why not give Ukraine the means to actually win rather than just get their population slaughtered?

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:30 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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What would you propose we send them to achieve this goal? Your side wants to give them zero.

Author: Frank L (64788 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:38 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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“to actually win”? Are you seriously saying that we are holding back?

Author: Chris94 (36797 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:34 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Quite a change, even for incoherent MAGA dopes.

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I've said all along paying to be an endless war does nothing. We'd make a much stronger statement

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:39 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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if we provided Ukraine the means to win or cause Russia to find better things to do. Either play to win or get the fuck out, and that would send a very intense message to China, N Korea and others.

As it is, it's like we're a drug dealer keeping someone alive just enough to keep us happy. All this war is showing the "world" is that Americans ultimately lose interest and let it further divide us. Beyond that, you cannot tell me multiple people in Congress on both sides of the aisle are not building generational wealth off yet another endless war.


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Oh, right. My bad.

Author: Chris94 (36797 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:15 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Sometimes I forget that you are a complete ignoramus.

My bad.


Thread Level: 6

Odds are he dresses better than you.

Author: Hensou (8189 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:39 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Thread Level: 6

oddthat pacifist Chris is all about war now.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16218 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Thread Level: 4

Nukes R Us. It’s time for all of us to check out.

Author: Hensou (8189 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:35 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Thread Level: 4

He’s on drugs other than marijuana

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:19 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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We're all born bald baby!
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This is funny. You are quite capable of ascendant wit.

Author: Hensou (8189 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:32 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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You rascal!

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Author: Frank L (64788 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:37 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Hmmm… so are the Dems ready to fund our own military?

Author: Curly1918 (16495 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:46 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Maybe they should cut back on Green boondoggles.

Thread Level: 3

Bro. You’re trying too hard

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:22 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 3

Uh…what?

Author: Chris94 (36797 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:52 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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You realize that the DOD budget has soared under Biden?

No, I guess you don’t.


Thread Level: 4

Really?

Author: Curly1918 (16495 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:56 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Link: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bidens-meager-1-us-defense-budget-increase-buys-fewer-ships-jets-2024-03-11/

Thread Level: 5

Yes, really. Look up the numbers.

Author: Chris94 (36797 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:16 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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It’s a soar subject with the professor.

Author: Hensou (8189 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:37 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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More free weapons for everyone! Also, don’t forget the kickback for the

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:36 am on Apr 21, 2024
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Lawmakers who made it happen. It’s a win-win for all the scumbags. Just make sure you have your Ukraine flag hanging out slide your house because I know you don’t have an American one.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 3

A major Russian summer offensive is coming

Author: Chris94 (36797 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:12 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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I guess you think it will be better if the Ukrainians have no way to defend themselves.

I don’t.

Not one American is going to die. But tens of thousands of Ukrainians will die if you and your fucktard tools of Putin get their way.


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I don’t give a flying fuck about Ukraine defending themselves. I’m more worried about my

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:24 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Own country. You and the other idiots can continue to call me a “Putin lover” or whatever else you think sounds like it’s insulting. I’m actually surprised you haven’t broken out the “Russian Asset” saying because it’s more dramatic and you love the drama.

But wars like this give you job security so you love them. Me, I prefer no war but that’s just me.


I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 5

It’s in the US interest for Putin to fail. And not one American has died.

Author: Chris94 (36797 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:33 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Some of your tax dollars are going to help Ukraine fend off Putin.

Go ahead and cry like a bitch while the United States stands up for peace and stability.


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Right. It’s also in the best financial interest for our Patriotic Politicians, right? I’m sure

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:55 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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They are all sending this money for the right reasons. The fact that you are screaming this loud about this tells me it’s the wrong thing to do. Your track record on things is terrible as you’re wrong about most things. But carry on feeling morally superior for supporting Zelenskyy. I’m sure you have a “I stand with Ukraine” bumper sticker on your Subaru to go along with your Ukraine flag.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 7

Are you still butt hurt that congress finally made the right decision?…

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:21 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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And I’m sure your quality of life is being affected by Ukraine and Israel aid. Come on, man.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 8

Not butt hurt at all. I just see things differently. If you want to act like our politicians

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:25 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Aren’t benefiting financially from this, go ahead. I just wish they cared for our veterans as much as they do illegals and Ukrainians. That alone should piss you off but doesn’t seem to phase you.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 9

I’m a veteran and I’ve been taken care of very well…

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:37 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Not all VA hospitals/clinics are created equal, but the one I use has done a great job for me. I can’t speak for every vet, but the ones that seek help will get help.

Regarding politicians benefiting financially, I have yet to see any ironclad concrete proof. Having said that,, isn’t it possible that the politicians in question would be under investigation?


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We're all born bald baby!
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Under investigation? Like for insider trading right? I want to say you’re more intelligent than to

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:43 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Make comments like that. Our Government is probably more corrupt than the Ukraine’s. You know they are all bought by special interest groups and lobbyists. How else are they multi-millionaires on a Public servant salary.

Having a different opinion used to be ok, but now I’m a Putin lover because I hate seeing unchecked billions leave our country. But again, that’s just me.


I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 11

You’re not a Putin lover…

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:48 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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but you’re going to vote for one. Can’t argue that there isn’t an element of corruption in our government. It’s always been there.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 11

This board has turned into an MSNBC show for some people.

Author: PaND (2732 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 2:58 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Thread Level: 12

Agree. Too many Rockports and not enough Nettleton Savannah Charlestons.

Author: Hensou (8189 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Link: https://www.nettletonshoes.com/ecomm/product/savannah-charleston

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Thread Level: 11

I doubt anyone on this board is a Putin lover.

Author: Hensou (8189 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:48 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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We’d all love to see the guy crushed and humiliated but that is unlikely to happen.

Thread Level: 12

Uh, have you bothered to read Eli and Cole’s posts about the savage?…

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:50 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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It’s like a man crush. Weird as hell.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 13

I don’t read their posts like liberals do.

Author: Hensou (8189 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 5:19 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Thread Level: 14

Well, they’re Putin worshippers.

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:23 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 15

They have concerns about the USA funding an unwinnable war.

Author: Hensou (8189 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:58 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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That doesn’t make them communists nor Putin worshippers.

Thread Level: 10

You are lucky. Most politicians are grifters.

Author: Hensou (8189 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:40 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Oh wait…you mean the killing won’t automatically stop if we cease aiding the Ukraine?…

Author: Domer From Hell (16446 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:17 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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We're all born bald baby!
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In my neighborhood, there is a few houses with Ukraine flags but they never ever flew an American

Author: jray (3339 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:50 am on Apr 21, 2024
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flag. Despicable.

Thread Level: 4

Truly despicable. I guess it makes these idiots feel morally superior

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:26 pm on Apr 21, 2024
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Flying it. They want to show support, they need to make their way over there and pick up some of the free weapons we are sending. I’ll even donate my air miles to send them.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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