infringement on 1st amendment rights?
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And who wears the blackface? And who panders in the black dialect? And who supports the murder of black unborn little ones? And who are the ones that think minorities can't use a computer or find their way to a license bureau to get a legal ID for voting? And who are the mayors of these murder infested cities that sit back and watch their black citizens shoot each other in mind boggling numbers? And who teaches minorities they can't succeed without government help? Their help? You must be a proud entitled city slicker and member of the party who invented the hood aka the KKK.
Let's review:
1. Impulsivity is often connected to criminality.
2. A wealth of research demonstrates that impulsivity is influenced by genetics and, furthermore, that the more destructive the impulsive, antisocial behavior, the greater the likelihood that genetics are the cause. Links posted in the original thread.
3. Traits and genetic mutations are not distributed equally to individuals in various racial groups, therefore it seems unlikely that the same percentage of individuals in one racial group who are predisposed to impulsivity are identical to the percentage in other groups.
4. Mean IQs differ by race. Again, a wealth of data over many years reinforces something that is obvious.
5. IQ has an inverse relationship with impulsivity. Studies linked in original thread.
6. There are vast disparities in violent crime commission by race. Even comparing the homicide rates for black perps vs. Hispanic perps produces a large disparity.
Please, explain how these disparities arise solely due to environment and why a difference in the percentage of highly impulsive individuals within one race could not explain this disparity.
For your reading please, please note the, wait for it, greater levels of initial impulsivity among African-American children in the study! Impossible! Social Darwinism! KKK! Proud Boys!
or credible evidence to back it up. The alt right is that way in general these days. They won’t say what they really believe.
races when it comes to propensity for violence." I literally spelled it out! I asked Frank if he seriously believes that the percentage of individuals with a genetic predisposition toward antisocial behavior is equal across races. Do you also not understand the difference between that and "the black gene?" More importantly, do you seriously believe that it is true that the percentage of individuals with this genetic influence is consistent across all racial groups? Upon what in the world do you base that assumption? Do you think it's equal between the two genders?
These debates remind me of the Sam Harris/Ezra Klein non-debate.
I have a few thoughts:
1. Your hypothesis seems very difficult to test. For starters the concept of race seems to be mostly a social construct. For example, the original homo-sapiens were black and it wasn't until a few thousand years ago (less than 10) that "white people" became dominant in Europe while other shades developed elsewhere. It gets even more complicated when you consider all of the variations of ancestry. And then there's the difficulty of controlling environmental factors.
2. If we set aside the fact that every human has "black" heritage. On the genetic side the thing you'd have to test is that the genes associated with dark skin are correlated to impulsivity. And ultimately you have to find a causal gene combination that links the two. Otherwise we're just talking about genealogy. "Those Milkoviches are a lawless group of scoundrels".
3. Identity science is probably no better than identity politics, likely worse. There are questions to explore, such as what Coleman Hughes has, like why American born blacks fare much worse than Island immigrant blacks (he has more examples). But the focus should be on the individual and not the perceived or {externally or self-identified} "race".
4. Social policy you elude to around race seems to me would be dangerous, crazy and counterproductive. So, what would be the point? If our genetic testing and such can help individuals know their risks, great, but on a "race" basis? Complete unhelpful.
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How do you explain the vast disparities in crime rates among racial groups, like, for instance, the great disparity between black homicide rates and Hispanic homicide rates?
Set aside the lying for a second.
Let's review:
1. Impulsivity is often connected to criminality.
2. A wealth of research demonstrates that impulsivity is influenced by genetics and, furthermore, that the more destructive the impulsive, antisocial behavior, the greater the likelihood that genetics are the cause. Links posted in the original thread.
3. Traits and genetic mutations are not distributed equally to individuals in various racial groups, therefore it seems unlikely that the same percentage of individuals in one racial group who are predisposed to impulsivity are identical to the percentage in other groups.
4. Mean IQs differ by race. Again, a wealth of data over many years reinforces something that is obvious.
5. IQ has an inverse relationship with impulsivity. Studies linked in original thread.
6. There are vast disparities in violent crime commission by race. Even comparing the homicide rates for black perps vs. Hispanic perps produces a large disparity.
Please, explain how these disparities arise solely due to environment and why a difference in the percentage of highly impulsive individuals within one race could not explain this disparity.
For your reading please, please note the, wait for it, greater levels of initial impulsivity among African-American children in the study! Impossible! Social Darwinism! KKK!
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When people resort to fallacies like this, invariably it's because they have nothing in response.
Do you believe that genetics cannot play role in the disparities in crime commission? Below, you pretended that I didn't answer your question and called me a, what was it, ah yes, a "coward." Then I showed the posts that answered your questions from five days ago. This brings up two questions:
1. Are you man enough to admit you were wrong and talking out of your anus?
2. Are you yourself a "coward" when you won't answer my questions?
And yes, I categorically deny variation in self-control by race.
Does it not bother you that you are echoing the kind of arguments promoted by segregationists and, before them, slave owners? They too detected variations in intelligence and emotional development by race. They too had their studies. They too had their scientists.
Citing a couple of studies - ones that you interpret in ways that suit your prejudices - is not impressive. On any major issue there are thousands of studies. Knowledge comes from a preponderance of the evidence. Anyone can cherry pick studies. I’m sure could find dozens that refute your misinterpretations of those few.
If you want to see knowledge advance, look up the critiques of the Bell Curve. See how flawed studies can be corrected.
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We get to perform for an audience five days a week. It's one of the great things about teaching.
Ever notice that this doesn't work for you, either?
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Once someone gets under your respective skins, how you look at others is revealed. People in what you consider "lesser" professions or occupations become targets. Ya know, some of Chris's rubes. You're the worst kind of snobs: dull, unremarkable snobs. Snobs who understand at some level when they are being tied up and then resort to whatever they can to try and save face.
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There is no scientific evidence or study that supports that any racial group is more prone to violence than others because that group carries a variation or excess of certain genetic traits or markers. You can hypothesize all you want but there is nothing of that sort that I know of.
I have not commented because I’m not equipped (like you seem to claim to be) as to the nature versus nurture argument on violence in individuals. I’m willing to say I don’t know which predominates or how they fit together. On group behavior by race, I have listed the factors that are commonly attributed to explain why there is an obvious issue with violence in the black community. I’m not a sociologist or a geneticist. My personal belief is that in some combination those are the factors that play into the situation. I have seen ZERO to suggest as an explanation that some type of genetic makeup predominance in that group is a factor.
Again, if you have such a study, fess it up. I doubt you do.
He is just saying that it is possible that certain races have greater genetic predispositions toward anti-social behavior! That’s all!
Anything further is what others read into it.
Same crap peddled by white supremacists throughout history.
or study to support this “theoretical possibility”. Like mud wrestling with a pig.
Dee won't provide any more answers than Dum. Figures.
Whether you believe it’s logical or not means ZERO. When you have actual evidence to support your genetic variance by race theory to explain violent behavior by group, be sure to supply it. Until then it’s more bloviation BS.
who have genetic predispositions to antisocial behavior. Agree or disagree? I'm not going through what a hypothesis is and why logic is essential to formulating them. Just answer without ducking. Agree or disagree? There cannot be a higher percentage of blacks with this predisposition than Asians. Agree or disagree? And then why? Upon what do you base this assumption, because this is precisely what you assume. We established that you have no evidence that environment overwhelmingly influences antisocial behavior, particularly more violent antisocial behavior, so upon what do you base your assertion?
Got it.
I invite you to provide that study.
In addition are you saying that there must be? Don’t duck it.
hunch, I Googled the genetic mutation called, "polydactyly" or a sixth toe. Son of a gun! It too is not distributed equally across races! It turns out that it's more common among blacks! Who knew? Since you're now, albeit in a shuffly manner, answering my questions, can you name anything genetically that is distributed among members of different racial groups equally?
Final one: da ya think that accepting that different racial groups have different percentages of members who are predisposed to antisocial behavior might have some serious implications for social policy?
They are also genetically prone to sickle cell anemia. So what? You are incredible.
Anything is theoretically possible. What you keep ducking is there is no scientific evidence or study that supports your genetic variance by group theory to explain violence. You left that part of my answer out of your synopsis. You also ducked my question to you. All you keep saying is that its a possibility without any credible evidence to support that ”possibility” So what?
Set aside the lying for a second.
Let's review:
1. Impulsivity is often connected to criminality.
2. A wealth of research demonstrates that impulsivity is influenced by genetics and, furthermore, that the more destructive the impulsive, antisocial behavior, the greater the likelihood that genetics are the cause. Links posted in the original thread.
3. Traits and genetic mutations are not distributed equally to individuals in various racial groups, therefore it seems unlikely that the same percentage of individuals in one racial group who are predisposed to impulsivity are identical to the percentage in other groups.
4. Mean IQs differ by race. Again, a wealth of data over many years reinforces something that is obvious.
5. IQ has an inverse relationship with impulsivity. Studies linked in original thread.
6. There are vast disparities in violent crime commission by race. Even comparing the homicide rates for black perps vs. Hispanic perps produces a large disparity.
Please, explain how these disparities arise solely due to environment and why a difference in the percentage of highly impulsive individuals within one race could not explain this disparity.
For your reading please, please note the, wait for it, greater levels of initial impulsivity among African-American children in the study! Impossible! Social Darwinism! KKK!
Link: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1530-0277.2012.01797.x
You have the splainin job and you aren’t faring well. Are you saying that these things are explained by group genetic variability. If so, point to the study that supports it. You are getting beyond pathetic.
assertion, and you won't answer questions.
You're being silly, and it has long been apparent why you and Tweedledee resort to fallacies and avoidance when questioned.
say if you believe it to be true, let alone cite to anyone else credible who believes it.
In other words, as usual, you are simply full of shit.
Unlike you, I make no assertion, other than you can’t back up what you indirectly claim.
Why you care so deeply about this is also very strange.
From the research on impulsivity and the other things I listed several times, a logical hypothesis is that genetics plays a role in disparities in antisocial behavior by groups. The research would then be subsequent to such a hypothesis. There is no way you graduated ND without learning this. Very little, if any, is out there, because demagogues like you and Chris will shout down anyone who attempts to even broach this subject. That should not be something about which you are proud, but you apparently are.
And you still haven't provided a whit of research that backs up your assertion that environmental factors explain most or all of the disparities.
In the meantime, you are an obsessed bore on this subject.
P.S. I’m not an ND grad. Are you?
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has to have studied your (according to you) logical hypothesis. Fess it up or go away.
Repeating something over and over again to make it true doesn't actually work, Frank.
Now answer my questions or Chris may have to call you a "coward."
BTW, did you notice that Chris is not with you in acknowledging that my hypothesis may be true? You followed up with the mind-numbingly stupid assertion that "anything could be true," in spite of millions of examples of things and propositions that could never be true. Personally, I'd like to see a little back-and-forth between you and Tweedledee over this particular point. I have another hypothesis, namely that if I can get you to hang around long enough, Chris will eventually call you a closet KKKer. Can we test that one?
By the way heard any good jokes about fruity people lately?
Winters had some just about every act.
My man, Norm MacDonald has a ton. Do you think any of them are funny, Frank? Do you stop laughing when they make them and register fake offense?
The post wasn’t funny at all.
You should take the wife’s advice and take a real vacation from here.
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are you suggesting I should have to pay money from my own pocket?
...where you deposit money...so random people can take it as they please.
May I start one for the NSA and put Chris down for a grand?
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Answered this query two threads down and answered your larger question twice in threads from days ago.
You probably can't appreciate how much fun it is to offend you, too. Of course, you'll say you're not offended, but you did use the term, "offensive" before.
Own up to your idiot beliefs for once.
You'd prefer to pretend that I haven't answered them then to simply re-read them and comment.
You and Frank are so easy to upset. I identified several years ago why you are both like this.
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You hid it amid pablum. But you believe that it is foolish to believe that there is no genetic variation across races when it comes to propensity for violence...and, therefore, that it is science (not merely pure racism) that accounts for your belief in the inherent violent tendencies of...certain races.
Got it.
PS - And I had not seen that post before.
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Still pretending, eh, perfesser?
I cannot wait to hear you answer the questions Frank refuses to answer. First off, do you believe in the Tabula Rasa Theory? Are people blank slates and is antisocial behavior shaped entirely or almost entirely by environment? What does the science say, Chris?
Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=19419
Who cares what he or I believe? The question is what do you believe?
Like he professes that he doesn’t teach history, just English until we now find out now that he did teach history up to two years ago.
the teaching of history, which I used to teach, which is the truth?
You're bonkers, Frank.
you were calling me to task for saying you teach history. “English.....Frank......English”, when you stated last month that you teach history.
you are a disturbed person with issues.
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English” when you are claimed to be a history teacher.
That’s really bonkers and untruthful.
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Why don’t you just give him a straight answer. Fraidy cat? We won’t tell your faculty on you.
decline that you put on display here day after day. Listen to your wife. Take a break from this place. Take a vacation. Turn off your phone and stop reading/watching the news over that time. It will do you good.
Wasn’t it your wife who told you to take a vacation from here? How long did that last?
typing. You've been on a downward trajectory for awhile.
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Or perhaps you just got into the habit of rushing out the latest Trump outrage and that conditioning has stayed with you?
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Any other of your lies that need to be dispelled?
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He and Tweedledee keep claiming I didn't answer his questions. Scroll down a ways to the threads in question. I answered in detail. Dum and Dee assume no one will, so they keep lying and pretending I did not answer. Two separate threads in which I addressed this. In contrast, after asking Frank several questions, he never answered one. He asserted that antisocial behavior is mostly a product of environment. I asked for evidence of his assertion and he provided none. In contrast, I provided studies, including a metanalysis, which demonstrate that genes play a large role in antisocial behavior. Frank implied that there cannot be a larger percentage of antisocial individuals in any given racial group, which I contended was absurd. That's it in a nutshell. Instead of responding, he claimed that I believe there is a "black gene," that makes all blacks more prone to antisocial behavior. I never did. That's also absurd. He's lying, but he assumes others won't go down and just read the thread.
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but then . . . .
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If that doesn't seem fucking crazy to you, there is no hope.
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This is a poli sci professor! I repeat, this is a poli sci professor!
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Link: https://twitter.com/khamenei_ir/status/1093791374204420097?lang=en
Trump incited violence. From a position of power.
Cry me a fucking river.
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A previous ayatollah said the same thing, “Death to Salman Rushdie”, and the guy had to stay in hiding for nine years. This is obviously a threat of violence.
Talk about snowflakes.
And maybe he shouldn’t lie constantly and incite violence. You know, like a normal president.
The Rushdie argument is silly, by the way.
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The Supreme Leader isn’t creating a threat of imminent violence here by his crappy. Only our arsehole former leader can and would do that.
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Then again, torching the NSA and FBI is more or less the same thing as calling for the country's extinction. Work with me here and crawl into Chris's alternate reality.
Never worked a day in their lives.
He sits at the foot of the “Ragin’ Cajun!” And laps that shit up.
Wtf else can you do with a degree in poli sci?
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Good to hear you are in bed with the Ayatollah. Not surprised. At all.
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Hard to believe.
Or do you also know better on that?
You and Tweedledee are in fine form! Thank you!
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Link: He says he teaches English.
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As usual.
common. You should be so proud
My understanding is that it helps scatterbrained people stay focused.
the Supreme Leader of Iran. Perhaps you should think your BS. analogies through more carefully before posting.
I think you might need a moment to calm down. You typed that so furiously that it makes no sense. Grab a paper bag and take some deep breaths.
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Link: https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wut
Such an annoying little gnat.
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his grammar/sentence construction goes out the window and I have to read single sentences several times to try to understand what he's trying to convey.
Thought you were supposed to be on vacation from here?
You still haven't answered my questions, either. Sometimes it almost hurts being right so often.
Listen to your wife.
Big vacay, huh?
Totally not losing a grip!
needed a rest from the internet. You really are an obsessed person with issues. Toodles.
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Serious issues.
Holy crap, Frank.
As I said, you were purposely misleading about not teaching history or you lied about it before.
In fact, claimed to ‘teach it” as of just last month.
Yet now you teach English.....Frank......English.
What a dissembler.
Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=16099
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me or you or others on the opposite side politically. I suppose it could be one of the comrades, but they have their own struggles with reality.
I suspect the outcome of Trump's various lawsuits will clarify that.
the decision? Can’t see the old Ayatollah assembling that type of wild crowd in DC.
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if not, then stfu.
Should everyone STFU if they haven't dedicated a room in their house, food, health care, etc. to the liberals' illegal aliens, or just Quest4twelve?
I have a hard time believing you have dedicated all that stuff to liberals' illegal aliens. Shouldn't you also tell yourself to STFU?
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this country already had a very viable and fair mechanism to invite people from around the world to become citizens here in an orderly and controlled fashion. but now, you libs have replaced order with total chaos while expecting, if not demanding, that others foot the bill. not one liberal has stepped up to the plate to volunteer their own resources. not one. this is intrinsic to your methodology for everything.
it is also completely obvious that the big plan is to shuffle these illegals to areas where the population is usually conservative. this flooding will, in your communist/socialist plan, eliminate any conservative vote and will, in effect, establish your evil one-party system.
so, the point is - it's your idea. you pay until sanity returns and we can get this and all the other dumpster fires you liberals have created under control.
not having any, thank you.
p.s. don't you just love $4.00/gallon gas prices? and astronomical increases in murders every weekend in the dem controlled cities? warms you heart, doesn't it?
Why should quest4twelve STFU?
We've determine it is not solely because he doesn't have a dedicated room, food and healthcare for liberals' illegal aliens, because that would mean you'd have to STFU.
You appear to be adding the prerequisite that he supports open borders, and you make not only the assumption that he does, but that we all already knew that. You might have mentioned that. Quest4twelve might very well support open borders. I don't know. I also don't know what the definition of "open borders" is. It seems different people have different definitions of that. So without saying so, you had inserted an STFU condition that one must support "open borders", assuming not only that Quest4twelve supports open borders, but that we all would have known that, all based on your definition of "open borders", which you also assume we all know.
OK. That's fine. I can guess at that much. Let's press on.
So now, if someone supports "open borders", then they must have a dedicated room, food and healthcare for illegal aliens, or they should not comment on Trump's lawsuits against Facebook, Twitter, Google etc. That seems like an odd requirement for commenting on a completely unrelated subject, no?
But even assuming that is rational and logical, it raises other questions. What if, instead of actually housing and feeding illegals, one supports the use of tax money to house, feed, and provide medical care for illegal aliens? Is that enough, or must one actually have a dedicated room in their house for them. I mean, I support our armed services, but I do not have a dedicated room in my house for any of them. Do you support the military? Do you have active duty soldiers living in your spare room?
All in all, I guess you are saying that Quest4twelve needs an actual illegal alien in a room in his house, because we assume he supports "open borders" as you define it, in order to comment on Trump's lawsuits against Facebook.
Are there other ways to disqualify one's self from a discussion of Trump's lawsuits?
Thanks, and have a nice day.
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No way he is an ND guy.
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And the MAGA faithful would all cream their jeans in their little circle jerk.
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You left or stayed. U over rate Ur importance on the board
There's a word for what she has had to deal with the past five years at home.
They are semi-righteous men.
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As far as you know.
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An ex-President sues a few of the largest companies in the country?
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