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the dems charge russian interference and russian collusion. yet...

Author: und67 (6801 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:59 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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they're the ones who named kamala the "border czar" and created the "disinformation czar", among other "czars".
who do they think they're kidding besides their carefully cultivated cult members?

they also tolerate antisemitic riots, sentiment, thought, and indoctrination. they support hamas, hezbollah, the houthis, and give iran passes (and billions). then they call trump, "hitler". wtf?

they disqualify and imprison their opposition, capture the media as their propaganda arm. some of them have advocated "indoctrination camps". then they claim a rational, legitimately elected leader will become a "dictator".

they create unchecked population explosion in an attempt to establish a permanent voting base so they will never lose their grip on power. yet they claim they are the only ones who can save "democracy". snl stuff.

there has to be a limit. let it be sooner rather than too late.


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msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.

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Feast your eyes on 'Politico's' summary of Trump's connections to Russia...you'd be fired on the

Author: TyroneIrish (20565 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:01 am on Jul 5, 2024
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spot by any and all of our Intelligence Agencies for reading it and concluding there was zero collaboration between the two parties...and that summary was just up until 2017...never mind DJT's statements since then (see "Helsinki")...and the Senate Intel Committee Report I've posted.

Link: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/

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Very well said. They are communists.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:02 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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Again...GOP-led Senate Intelligence Committee has documented evidence of Trump campaign working with

Author: TyroneIrish (20565 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:16 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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Russian operatives...this is not up for debate. All the rest of '67's screed is misinformation...not unlike what you'd hear from a Russian propaganda outlet...

>The U.S. is known for its 1st Amendment right to Free Speech...even those who support Hamas, but are in no way representative of what the Democratic Party or President Biden are saying or doing...which is that millions of non-Hamas Palestinians should not be disregarded by Israel's far right (Bibi) attacks...well over 30K innocent civilians have been killed and countless others maimed...they deserve a voice.

>The Obama administration got Iran to join in...and abide by (per the IAEA boots on the ground in Iran)...the JCPOA nuclear agreement...they were "paid" with their own money frozen for just such an opportunity to gain concessions.

>DJT earned his felony indictments, as every one came from ordinary citizens hearing the evidence and agreeing a trial was warranted...the first one's jury also concurred with a conviction...and the odds against Trump for the next three are not in his favor either.

>Even DJT recognized in 2019 that ONLY Congressional action would solve our border problems...didn't happen on his watch...but did in the Senate on Biden's...which DJT then publicly blocked so as to deny his opponent any credit.

Trump is a Malignant Sociopathic Narcissist with no other goal than to not let anyone get a the slightest sense of his incredibly low self esteem...he has no vision whatsoever for how to make this country greater than it already is.

Oh, and btw...our worst enemy (Putin) is doing all he can to get Trump elected...and Trump couldn't be more pleased...think about that on this Independence Day.


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Here was their statement, you imbecile...

Author: jakers (13909 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:10 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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“absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election.”

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Looks like I have to post the Senate Intel Committee's Report...Again...

Author: TyroneIrish (20565 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:45 am on Jul 5, 2024
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...here is an excerpt from the section dealing with former Trump campaign manager, Paul Manafort, which begins on page 27...
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III. (U) COUNTERINTELLIGENCE CONCERNS

A. (U) Paul Manafort

1. (U) Introduction and Findings

(U) Paul Manafort is a former lobbyist and political consultant with ties to numerous foreign politicians and businessmen, most notably in Russia and Ukraine. In March 2016, Manafort joined the Trump Campaign as convention manager. By May 2016, then-Candidate Trump officially elevated Manafort to be the Campaign's chairman and chief strategist. On August 19, 2016, following press articles related to his past-work in Ukraine for a pro-Russia political party h~aded by former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych, Manafort resigned from the Trump Campaign.

(U) Manafort had direct access to Trump and his Campaign's senior officials, strategies, and information. During the campaign, Manafort worked closely with his long-time deputy, Rick Gates, who had similar access to Campaign personnel and information.

(U) While serving on the Trump Campaign, Manafort, often with the assistance of Gates, engaged with individuals inside Russia and Ukraine on matters pertaining to both his personal business prospects and the 2016 U.S. presidential election. The Committee scrutinized these contacts in order to determine whether these activities were connected to Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. election..

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Further on in that section, the committee had this to say...

(U) The Committee was unable to reliably determine why Manafort shared sensitive internal polling data or Campaign strategy with Kilimnik. Manafort and Gates both claimed that it was part of an effort to resolve past business disputes and obtain new work with their past Russian and Ukrainian clients by showcasing Manafort's success.

(U) The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU's hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election.


i.e. the Senate Committee DID NOT determine that there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia...but they certainly had every reason to suspect it. If the names were changed from "Trump" to "Biden", you wouldn't miss a heartbeat in concluding there was indeed collusion.

Recall that several witnesses in the recent trial and conviction of DJT made clear that Trump was a "Micromanager" of all his businesses...to the point of signing EVERY check over $10K...so, to think that Manafort acted on his own...with zero knowledge by DJT of what he was doing with Russian agent, Konstantin Kilimnik...is naive to the extreme.

Trump and the Russians worked together to aid his election in 2016...and given Trump's subservience to Putin (see Helsinki press briefing)...there is every reason to believe that collaboration is on-going.


Link: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

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Who cares? Their conclusion is what matters?

Author: jakers (13909 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:04 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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Obviously you don't care that the Senate Intel Committee found DJT's campaign manager, Paul

Author: TyroneIrish (20565 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:16 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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Manafort, actually shared internal campaign polling data with Russian agent, Konstantin Kilimnik prior to the 2016 election.

We just celebrated our "Independence Day"...and you don't care that Trump is on the ballot to become President again?...please turn in your passport and find a more suitable nation to call home.


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I don't care about Manafort any more than yo1u care about Hunter.

Author: jakers (13909 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:12 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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I also know that Russia didn't change the election results.

Who cares?


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Hunter isn't running for President...you know this...stop thrashing about with deflections. DJT knew

Author: TyroneIrish (20565 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:26 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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everything that Manafort was doing...that's illegal...ethically wrong...and bordering on treason...not the qualities this great country needs...EVER.

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Neither is Manafort, you ignorant slimeball.

Author: jakers (13909 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:05 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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Pretty atypical of a 'Micro-Manager' like Trump to let his campaign manager pull a stunt like that

Author: TyroneIrish (20565 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:13 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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with a Russian and not know a thing about it...don't you think.

btw, when the words used get more and more coarse...it's clear that the truth is finding its mark. Why do you back a man who is owned by the nation's worst enemy?...what's in it for you?


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So you'll just make things up. Brilliant.

Author: jakers (13909 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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Just another lie from Ty.

Author: PaND (2726 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:53 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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Time after time.

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Stickin with the lies and disinformation. The science has changed!

Author: Protagonist (1105 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 9:11 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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Check out the GOP-led Senate Intel Committee Report which I've posted multiple times before...then

Author: TyroneIrish (20565 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:48 am on Jul 5, 2024
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explain why you think there is no reason to believe the Trump campaign and Russia colluded on the 2016 election...I'd love to take shots at your answer ;-).

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The Deflector strikes again

Author: Nigel Tufnel (8036 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:14 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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Obfuscate and throw a bunch of shit against the wall and hope something sticks - it is all Ty knows.

Here is what the GOP members of that committee wrote. "As is evident to those who read all five volumes of the Committee's report, the Russian government inappropriately meddled in our 2016 general election in many ways but then-Candidate Trump was not complicit. After more than three years of investigation by this Committee, we can now say with no doubt, there was no collusion."


'I define fear as standing across from Joe Louis and knowing he wants to go home early.' - Max Baer
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Trump signs EVERY check over $10K involving his businesses...are you telling us that he was

Author: TyroneIrish (20565 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:52 am on Jul 5, 2024
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oblivious to his campaign manager sharing internal polling data with Russian agent, Konstantin Kilimnik?

You may be an off-the-charts example of naivete...but I'm not.


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Totally untrue.

Author: PaND (2726 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 7:24 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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Not surprising coming from you.

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They vilify a national historic enemy with whom they share an ideology.

Author: LanceManion (7957 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 6:19 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Hillary tried to reset relations with Russia.

Author: iairishcheeks (27292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:51 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned and such.

Oh, and Obama mocked Romney for suggesting Russia was a threat.


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Obama and his SOS, Hillary Clinton tried the "Carrot" approach...worth a shot, but it didn't work so

Author: TyroneIrish (20565 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:23 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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they adjusted.

Then came along Putin's lapdog, Donald J. Trump...much more to Vlad's liking.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_reset

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So they tried to make a deal with the devil?

Author: iairishcheeks (27292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:38 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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Do you ever hold the people you vote for accountable? (Rhetorical question, everyone knows you don't)

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They paid nothing for the attempt...thus when Putin showed...without doubt...his true intentions,

Author: TyroneIrish (20565 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:11 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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and pushed aside the 'peace overture', he took away any pretext that he was forced into his actions, thus allowing us...and NATO...to plan accordingly. How's Vlad doing so far?

Oh, and which 2024 Presidential candidate is Best Friends with "The Devil" himself?...thanks for helping me make my point even stronger.


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Fine pretzel narrative you've constructed there.

Author: iairishcheeks (27292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:27 pm on Jul 5, 2024
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Does it come with cheese dipping sauce?

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My how the people change when it suits them.

Author: NedoftheHill (44715 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:09 pm on Jul 4, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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