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This should be interesting. 20 states now looking into AAP for deception wrt gender treatment

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:44 am on Sep 25, 2024
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The effects of the drug are frequently permanent because they are given within a critical window while the drug itself can be reversible after the fact. I have posted on this, so I won’t repeat myself

This is yet another example of the Biden Adm politicizing medicine as they have many (almost all) other critical agencies and professions. The AG’s are asking for any and all communications between the AAP and the Biden Adm (there is no credible reason for an independent body to be asking any questions or seeking any guidance from the govt party in power).

Medically, this was very deceptive. It has been used by political operatives to deceive and push an agenda as well.

If Trump wins, expect the truth to come out.


Link: https://www.ncregister.com/cna/pediatric-association-accused-of-deceptive-claims-in-favor-of-cross-sex-treatments-for-minors

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Malpractice on the part of the AAP.

Author: LanceManion (7940 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 12:19 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Note that every state AG participating in this is a Republican, while others who oppose it

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:24 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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contend that denial of medically developed treatment protocols for Gender Dysphoria patients would indeed qualify as 'malpractice'. This is not a bipartisan, science based effort.

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I agree. Their statement is clearly deceptive, and their stance violates Primum Non Nocere tenant.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:08 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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See post below.

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Naw. They are just terrorized of the LBGTQ+++ criticism.

Author: Curly1918 (16447 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:43 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Note that the LGBTQ+ community has never been shy when speaking up about medical care for

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:15 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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what ails them...case in point their "ACT UP" campaign for more medical attention to HIV/AIDS treatments...so, if anyone were to be offended by medical treatments for Gender Dysphoria, you'd expect them to be 'front and center' with complaints...yet, they are the ones in full support for the protocols and treatments recommended by the Psychologic and Psychiatric professionals. It's only those who are Anti-LGBTQ+ who aren't supportive.

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Tim Walz signed a bill in 2023 allowing the State to make custody decisions if parents

Author: Cole (16183 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 11:53 am on Sep 25, 2024
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"deny gender affirming care" to their kids who can't vote yet, can't smoke yet, can't drink yet, can't drive yet, but somehow can alter their body forever.

The Left is obsessed with kids and sex.


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The 'Left' is trying to help such persons...you, and other groups (e.g. CatholicVote) are not.

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:07 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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...btw, we've all seen evidence recently that not all parents act responsibly and thus in certain circumstances, government intervention is justified.

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Thank you for affirming that the Left wants to force castration of kids against parental consent.

Author: Cole (16183 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 1:11 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Sometimes government is authorized to override parental control...there are laws in place...

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:27 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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for starters, take a look at the link I provided...then go on to learn about The parens patriae doctrine gives the state the right to intervene with a parent's decision when it's believed they are not acting in the best interest for the child's well-being.

You're welcome.


Link: https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/when-can-the-government-override-a-parents-medical-decision-in-the-us/103-459250777

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Cosmetic, gender and other decisions of similar matters will almost always be left to the parents.

Author: wrdomerson (2263 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:59 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Last line of your link.

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Note the use of the word “Almost”…

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:34 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Notice that once again your post/article doesn't address what you're replying to

Author: wrdomerson (2263 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:57 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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I know you think it does, but it actually doesn't. We are still talking about gender, the entire article had nothing to do with it and the line at the end shows that.

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And people wonder how voters can decide to risk a Trump presidency. Maher called this.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:19 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Attempting to overthrow a free and fair election "Trumps" any other policy issue, such as Gender

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:32 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Dysphoria....btw, we'll fortunately be learning more about what happened on and before Jan. 6th...maybe even learn why DJT and Mark Meadows were communicating with a "War Room" on Jan. 5th full of Oath Keepers and Fake Elector creators who later confessed to "Seditious Conspiracy" charges.

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They are attracted to perversions of the innocent.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 12:04 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Many cults are, as Chris94 would point out if he were honest.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:20 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Cults have leaders. You don't get that. Part XXIV.

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:09 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Obama, duh!

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:43 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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The downside of denying medically approved care for those with GD is suicide...not a trivial

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:16 am on Sep 25, 2024
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outcome, especially when studies have shown high levels of "Ideation" and attempts...as much as 40% of those suffering from Gender Dysphoria.

Extreme right wing opponents of worldwide accepted treatment protocols are "Doing Harm" when they try to obstruct them. Baron needs to review his Hippocratic Oath, while also reviewing the entire set of circumstances.

...from the yesterday's attached National Catholic Reporter article...
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"Health care for transgender people has long been supported by every major medical association and leading world health authority, across specialties and patient lifespan, because it is safe, long-studied and prescribed. This form of medical care is life-giving, even life-saving," Ross Murray, GLAAD Media Institute vice president, told NCR.

"Despite what extremists claim, this care looks different for each person," said Powell of Human Rights Campaign.

The Biden administration has voiced support for gender-affirming care for transgender minors, while opposing surgery for them. Harris' campaign website said she would support federal legislation to "enshrine anti-discrimination protections for LGBTQI+ Americans in health care, housing, education and more into law."

When she ran for president in 2019, Harris filled out a questionnaire from the American Civil Liberties Union where she said she would use her executive authority to ensure that transgender and nonbinary people who rely on the state for medical care had access to gender-affirming care, including "all necessary surgical care."

"It is important that transgender individuals who rely on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment associated with gender transition," Harris wrote on that questionnaire. As California's attorney general, Harris also noted that she had pushed the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation to provide gender transition surgeries to state inmates.
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Link: https://www.ncronline.org/news/catholicvote-ads-claim-harris-backs-tax-funded-gender-surgeries-children

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This post doesn't even address what Baron is talking about

Author: wrdomerson (2263 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:24 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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It's just a talking point, and a bad one at that. His post is about treatment of minors. The medical studies on GD showed that before social media it was entirely a boyhood issue and that after puberty the vast majority grew out of it. The very small minority left ended up cross dressing or being drag queens. Instead, your party is happy to chop off parts of kids before they are even done with puberty and chemically castrating them while they are still minors, before they've had a chance to grow out of it.

Multiple studies have shown that surgery for gender affirming care has done very little to the suicide rate. The issue is not with the body, it is with the mind. I would rather not use tax payer money to fund expensive surgeries for inmates that will still have them killing themselves later. Mental health care, yes, I'm good with that.


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Let's be objective...show us the studies supporting your contention.

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:50 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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Those who want to castrate themselves will always desire to do so... even after it's over.

Author: Curly1918 (16447 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:42 am on Sep 25, 2024
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It's a psychological desire.... AND it's directly linked to suicide ideations.

Link: https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transpop-suicide-press-release/

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Puberty Blockers reduce thoughts and attempts at suicide (see link)...show us a report that counters

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:02 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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the one I appended.

Additionally, there is evidence to suggest that biological differences are involved with the issue of Gender Dysphoria...if you don't agree, show us a report that provides evidence to back you up...that's the reasonable approach to this discussion.

btw, thanks for linking the Williams Report I was referring to in my earlier post.


Link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7073269/#:~:text=Among%20transgender%20adults%20in%20the,odds%20of%20lifetime%20suicidal%20ideation.

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So you are admitting that these ideations exist and that blockers merely repress them.

Author: Curly1918 (16447 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 12:14 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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I got news for you... everyone represses a ton of unwanted thoughts and feelings.

As a species we are taking a gazillion substances to keep the Pandora's Bos inside our unconscious SHUT.

Certainly we can come up with better ones that those that castrate.


Link: http://..

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First of all, every treatment for GD begins...and continues...with counseling...it never stops, even

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:06 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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when medical interventions are being considered. This is standard protocol, for which I've posted several times from just a few of the many health organizations involved (see link for a more complete list).

You are out of step with professional treatment of this condition.


Link: https://transhealthproject.org/resources/academic-gender-centers/

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Thank you for making a point. Of course it never stops... it's a deep-seated desire to be castrated.

Author: Curly1918 (16447 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 4:56 pm on Sep 25, 2024
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That's why the T in LBGTQ+++ is critical to the entire gamut of human perversions.

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People defensively laugh at Freud... but he did come up with the theory of castration anxiety as...

Author: Curly1918 (16447 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:15 am on Sep 25, 2024
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a phase of human psychological development.

Seems part and parcel of the whole LBGTQ+++ phenomenon.

Regardless... the perps seem as "anxious" as their victims.


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This is my previous post that I referred to on this.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59917 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:54 am on Sep 25, 2024
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Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=211595

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