Michigan Catholic bishops strongly condemn Whitmer’s Harris promo mockery of catholics
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Here's Gov. Whitmer's response to the MCC...
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Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-MI) issued a statement on Saturday apologizing for a video that appeared to mock the Catholic faith.In the statement, she said she “would never do something to denigrate someone’s faith,” adding that the video, which touches on the CHIPS Act, “has been construed as something it was never intended to be.”
“Over 25 years in public service, I would never do something to denigrate someone’s faith. I’ve used my platform to stand up for people’s right to hold and practice their personal religious beliefs. My team has spoken to the Michigan Catholic Conference. What was supposed to be a video about the importance of the CHIPS Act to Michigan jobs, has been construed as something it was never intended to be, and I apologize for that,” Whitmer said.
In the video posted by social media influencer and former MSNBC columnist Liz Plank on Friday, Whitmer, donning a camouflage Harris-Walz campaign hat, is seen feeding a Dorito to a kneeling Plank.
The video is captioned: “If he won’t, Gretchen Whitmer will. Chips aren’t just delicious, the CHIPS Act is a game-changer for U.S. tech and manufacturing, boosting domestic production of semiconductors to reduce reliance on foreign suppliers. Donald Trump would put that at risk.”
----------------btw, Kneeling while receiving the Eucharist ended with Vatican II...I doubt that anyone involved knows about that (although I do ;-))...IMO, there is no way Gov. Whitmer would consciously seek to denigrate ANY religion's practices...for what possible political gain can you imagine such an act?...especially just weeks before an election. To the contrary, some MI Bishops have previously sought to engage in politics by denigrating Joe Biden, who was welcomed by our Pope. If anyone is trying to score political points, it's the Bishops and Republican partisans.
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There are only two options, and neither are good.
1) Democrat governor makes fun of Catholics.
2) Democrat governor filmed feeding a person to the mouth on her knees...nothing to do with Catholicism or the Eucharist...just creepy as shit with overtones of dominance by government over their pet humans.
Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.-
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LOL...if you and Baron weren't so intransigent, you'd realize there are other options...like the
most relevant to the purpose of promoting the CHIPS Act to Michiganders (see link)...here's an excerpt...
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The video shows Whitmer, who’s wearing a Harris-Walz hat, placing a Dorito into the mouth of Liz Plank, a podcaster and author, which follows a trend on social media of people feeding each other food, typically with the song “Dilemma” by Nelly featuring Kelly Rowland in the background.The caption plays off the chip in the video by applauding the CHIPS and Science Act, a bill signed into law by President Biden in 2022 that provides billions in incentives to the domestic semiconductor industry and funds scientific research.
“Chips aren’t just delicious, the CHIPS Act is a game-changer for U.S. tech and manufacturing, boosting domestic production of semiconductors to reduce reliance on foreign suppliers! Donald Trump would put that at risk,” the caption reads.
-----------------Now ask yourself, why would a politician, who's trying to appeal to as many voters in Michigan as possible, purposely use the clip to denigrate members of any religion, much less Catholics, and risk blowback from it?...makes zero sense.
She did not try to 'Dis' Catholics...
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LOL indeed. That is asinine. You know it, but you must defend your party at all costs.
(no message)Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.-
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If you think Gov. Whitmer would put out a public swipe at Catholics in order to promote the CHIPS
Act benefits for Michiganders, I'm afraid I can't help you...you're on your own, Kiddo.
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She thought she could get away with it, or didn't know it was so offensive. Which is it?
Either is bad for her.
Bottom line, she is either evil or stupid...probably a combination. Of course, she knows that people like you will defend her no matter what she does, so she's probably not stupid. It isn't looking good for you and her.
Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.-
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I've already corrected you...there are other options...like what Gov. Whitmer explained in my
previous post...makes a whole lot more sense than your, or the Bishops', made up theory.
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With lesbian undertones from a married woman. In context of Paris mockery & LA Dodger mockery by LGB
TQ group, this stunt is quite clearly an appeal to that radical fringe hate group.
The Left hates Catholics (real ones). That’s because it is the Universal Church founded by Christ himself, and their preferred influence is evil.
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WTF was she thinking? A big chunk of her base are religious.
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"Michigan bishop calls Biden 'stupid' Catholic who doesn't understand faith"...some bishops are not
shy about politicizing their faith...I suspect that this pearl clutching exercise is just another example...with no attention paid to the benefits Michiganders will realize from the Biden/Whitmer CHIPS Act, which is all the Tik Tok meme was about.
Only "Stupid People" would think that a Governor would purposely try to alienate a major faith within their state...can't fix Stupid.
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Question: Do you believe in the Real Presence in the consecrated host (e.g., transubstantiation)?
(no message)Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.-
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Good work jake, my exact thoughts have got me banished to
the corner for extended periods of time. Hope you have better luck than I, with yr critique of Ty
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Yeah, I know. I just thought I'd show him running from a simple question.
He's not Catholic, but he pretends to be.
Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Re: Question: Do you believe in the Real Presence in the consecrated host (e.g., transubstantiation)?
I don't post often, but his reply to Whitmer's mockery is another example of his and some of his elitist board cohorts hypocrisy and "cafeteria" catholic beliefs. As usual he will go to his liberal research chest and reply.
Whatever the Michigan Bishop's problem is with Biden has nothing to do with Whitmer's mockery.-
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That utterance by the Bishop illustrates his (and others') willingness to politicize the Catholic
faith with an inappropriate and unnecessary criticism of Joe Biden's faith. Bishop Gruss, and other Republican aligned prelates focus on just one issue...Abortion...and fail to raise their voices to the same octave in criticism of Trump's treatment of immigrants, who are often deeply Catholic...nor does he and they express any concern for the lives of women who are victimized by forced and/or coerced pregnancies they never wanted.
As President, Joe Biden is responsible for the interests of the entire nation...not just Conservative Catholics, or Evangelical Christians who offer no remedies for innocent women victimized by sexual assault resulting in life changing...and sometimes, life-ending...pregnancies. JB's concerns also include many other serious issues, both Domestic and International...so for the Bishops to urge Catholics to not vote for Biden, they are sanctioning Trump who tried to overthrow our democracy and promise to allow our worst enemy free reign to do "Whatever he wants" with Ukraine, which would include mass assassinations and the ending of any hope for their own democracy.
Those Bishops need to preach about ALL issues affecting the human condition...provide meaningful insight in light of Christ's teachings and then encourage their congregations to discern for themselves when judging who to vote for.
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Re: That utterance by the Bishop illustrates his (and others') willingness to politicize the Catholic
I am wasting my time, but please explain how and when Trump mistreated legal immigrants. His and what should be all our concern is Biden's open door policy allowing the flow of illegal immigrants into our country.
Look into your research files and tell us how you determined that most illegal immigrants are pious practicing catholics.The abortion issue for raped women is a valid issue. Is it possible that your obsession with this issue might be that you would prefer no abortion restrictions. My fellow uneducated whites, cultist, morons ( according to some of your liberal cohorts), anxiously await reading your research reply. Not really.-
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You're not wasting your time...to the contrary, you bring up even more opportunities to highlight
why DJT must never inhabit the Oval Office...
First off, you ask when Trump mistreated immigrants...it's amazing to me that you could ask such a question...have you forgotten his infamous "Zero Tolerance" program that purposely ripped children from their mothers arms with absolutely no plan on how to reunite those traumatized kids with their Moms and Dads?...~1,400 are still separated...if that doesn't jog your memory, I've attached a Forbes article that might help...one of dozens if not hundreds that covered it...AND, Trump vows to do it again should he win in 2024. If that doesn't rub you the wrong way then you are just as bad a human being as he is.
We are a nation of laws and only Congress can provide the funding...and policy...to control the volume of immigrants admitted into our country...I've posted Trump's own call, in 2019, for Congress to take action, but his MAGA legislators would not negotiate a bipartisan Bill...it took four more years...under Joe Biden, to get such a Bill agreed upon, only to have it torpedoed by Trump so that he could get unthinking MAGA types to focus on the problem and not the solution that Biden helped craft...btw, that kept High Tech Fentanyl scanners from being authorized and installed at border check points where huge amounts of the drug are trafficked (thousands of cars and trucks through Laredo alone). Joe Biden isn't keeping our border "open."..Trump is...that's a fact...just ask GOP Senator Lankford.
As regards the faith of immigrants, a PEW Research study found at least half of them are Catholic from Mexico and Central America...you could have found that out almost instantly with your keyboard...provided you thought to ask the question of yourself before posting it.
One thing you have right is the plight of women who are subjected to pregnancies they never wanted...it's enough that they have to suffer miscarriages (~1M/yr in the U.S.), or suffer denial of IVF when they desperately want to have children...does government have to question their menstrual cycles in a dragnet to find possible abortion attempts, regardless of the reasoning for them?...this is insanity, bordering on Sadism...Enough is Enough...and women in America will never stop fighting for Their Control of Reproductive decision making.
I invite your replies...don't be disingenuous like Ned...
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Re: You're not wasting your time...to the contrary, you bring up even more opportunities to highlight
Ned is always straightforward, apparently you find this a problem. I question Biden's human concerns welcoming the overwhelming numbers of illegal immigrants knowing the problems creating by the Border staff.
I have to believe the majority of illegals knew the possibility of family separation. If I am a bad human for being more concerned for those immigrants seeking legal entry, so be it.Six prominent Dems voted no on the supposed bypartisan Bill. Apparently they realized the Bill was lacking.
You state that 50% of Mexican and Central America immigrants are practicing catholics. How do you and your research sources know if they are practicing. I would venture that the majority of cartel gang members
are catholic. I doubt they are practicing. The number of illegal immigrants from adversary countries let loose in our country is unknown and a disgrace. We are just beginning to realize what national security issues our
country is facing.I am 84 yrs old and should never have replied to your liberal beliefs. Therefore I wii ignore your post going forward.
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"...please explain how and when Trump mistreated legal immigrants."...your words...and I gave you
the example of DJT's "Zero Tolerance" program of Knowingly ripping children from their Mothers' arms, with no plan for EVER re-uniting them...and he PROMISES to do it again if re-elected...if that doesn't register as mistreating immigrants, then you are NOT the "Practicing Catholic" you think you are.
btw, any undocumented immigrant stopped at our border and admitted into the country is here LEGALLY...they are just in the process of gaining resident status, and perhaps eventual Citizenship...they deserve to be treated with respect and dignity (see "Dignitas Infinita")...the United States of America is a country based on a Constitution and the Rule of Law...those admitted immigrants are following those laws which can only be changed by Congress.
If you still hold the view that it's OK to rip children from their Mothers arms for the sole purpose of terrorizing them and others into not even applying for entry, then you've learned very little in 84 years.
As for the Senate Bipartisan Immigration Bill...virtually ALL Bills are compromises...not everyone agrees with every element in them...but the way government, and Progress is made is through majority votes...In Congress as well as elections for President...do you understand that simple fact?
I cited a PEW Research study that found the percentage of Catholics among immigrants...you're good enough with a computer to log onto this forum...go do the research yourself and get back to us with what you've found...also, given your demonstrated lack of interest in following "Dignitas Infinita" don't go questioning others' level of faith.
I really feel sorry for who you've become.
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Re: "...please explain how and when Trump mistreated legal immigrants."...your words...and I gave you
I have had 84 good years and your opinion of my Catholicism is of no concern. Get back to your liberal research library.
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Since yr post say "I suspect" that means it's
only yr opinion, which means absolutely nothing to most sane people on the board
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Note the kneeling and taking the chip in mock reverence on the tongue - not in meme she claims.
Catholics need to take notice of her hatred. She then mocks us as they did in Paris by claiming that they were not doing what they were.
In the context of her adm treatment of the church, it is exactly what it looks like. No CHIPS act justifies the mockery and specifics carried out, and it goes well beyond the meme that they claim inspired it.
Link: https://www.ncregister.com/blog/is-gretchen-whitmer-mocking-catholics
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