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For your information...this is real...the 'Delta Variant' appears have reduced the vaccines'

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 10:46 pm on Jul 20, 2021
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(Pfizer and Moderna) effectiveness in preventing COVID-19 infections to ~64-68% rather than the initial 95%, per the attached article from Israel, and from our own ID specialist (...wait for obligatory 'fake' post claims...;-))....

The good news is that the vaccines are still exceptionally effective in protecting people from becoming hospitalized, or dying...on the other hand, this news means that many more vaccinated persons are becoming infected and therefore potential vectors for "infecting others" (emphasis intended), of which there are currently ~170 million (including kids under 12 yrs) here in the U.S...and the Delta Variant has been shown to be much more transmissible, as well as 'virulent' (i.e. more injurious).

So...act accordingly...be more cautious than you would like to be...and don't be afraid to wear a mask when you're in the company of unvaccinated people...not so much for your protection...it's for them...be considerate. (one can only ask).

And, as always help spread the word that vaccinations (ASAP) are our way out of this mess.


Link: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/health-ministry-fears-vaccine-s-effectiveness-against-delta-is-even-below-64-1.10011484

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Have heard Dr. Fauci is now considering "double secret probation" for Delta...

Author: TakethetrainKnute  (35521 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 11:41 am on Jul 21, 2021
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That's really stretching it, Knute...you can do much better ;-).

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 2:49 pm on Jul 21, 2021
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Thass pretty funny from Kanute IMHO.

Author: Frank L  (64990 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)
Posted at 3:07 pm on Jul 21, 2021
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Dr.Fakey pushed AZT during the AIDS crisis,he is a pharmaceutical industrial complex flunky

Author: eftg1  (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2012)
Posted at 12:17 pm on Jul 21, 2021
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Here is a thread from Ben Shapiro on this topic.

Author: jakers  (14652 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:26 am on Jul 21, 2021
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He nails it.

Link: https://mobile.twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1417468134768906242

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Yep. That about sums it up.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47125 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 2:16 am on Jul 21, 2021
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I see a lot of Mayor Jenny Durkin...but no Ben Shapiro...help me out here.

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:42 am on Jul 21, 2021
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Bizarre. Not sure how I did that. It's fixed (via edit).

Author: jakers  (14652 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:06 am on Jul 21, 2021
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Stuff happens...NP...thanks for getting the link...as for Ben's figures...

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:07 am on Jul 21, 2021
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I just clicked on the Johns Hopkins COVID Data site and got these numbers...

7/5/21.......Deaths...41...7 Day Avg...159.....Cases...5,207.....7 Day Avg...11,752
7/19/21.....Deaths...230...7 Day Avg...268...Cases...55,828...7 Day Avg...35,035

Clearly, the trend is UP...very quickly ...over ten-fold in Cases and the lagging Death figures are up over 5x/day...(the 7 Day Avg. is still influenced by the older data)...all this in just two weeks.

This is hardly cause for celebration...especially with 170 million Americans still unvaccinated...tell everyone you see to get their shots...please.


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I've never been anti-vaccine through all of this.

Author: jakers  (14652 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:11 pm on Jul 21, 2021
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I support it. I don't favor making it mandatory for anyone, but I'd like to see more people getting it, especially since it's free most places.

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Rand Paul demascuinlates Fauci. Fauci is

Author: ColeyO  (13094 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:15 am on Jul 21, 2021
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a lying sack of shit.

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There’s a reason Rand Paul was pummeled by his neighbor.

Author: conorlarkin  (22974 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:02 pm on Jul 21, 2021
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Look up “smacked ass” and you will see a picture of Rand Paul.

Fauci destroyed Rand Paul yesterday.

You have horrific judgment. Truly horrific.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Why do leftists hate the truth?

Author: notredame678  (3806 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)
Posted at 12:30 pm on Jul 21, 2021
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Jersey Sucks!
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Fauci behaving like a cornered coyote.

Author: eftg1  (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2012)
Posted at 3:10 am on Jul 21, 2021
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If you believe "demasculating" means "Not letting Dr. Fauci finish his answer"...you are correct.

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:46 am on Jul 21, 2021
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I'll take Dr. Fauci's medical CV over Rand Paul's any day...and certainly over yours.

https://youtu.be/_kM2wJbbvW8

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Thanks for letting us know what 'virulent' means, Ty.

Author: Iggle  (13087 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)
Posted at 11:51 pm on Jul 20, 2021
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Are double quotes an even bigger emphasis than single quotes in your code?

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Ty thinks most on this board are

Author: ColeyO  (13094 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:01 am on Jul 21, 2021
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Dumb fucks

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The message is that COVID-19 has become a greater threat to those who are unvaccinated...if you

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:50 am on Jul 21, 2021
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are having trouble appreciating that, then maybe you could use a little help...seek it.

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He’s a limo lib grifter, can’t handle living with his white guilt.

Author: notredame678  (3806 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2007)
Posted at 2:11 am on Jul 21, 2021
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Jersey Sucks!
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Not everyone is as well schooled as you...btw, the attached link adds more "emphasis" to the need

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 12:09 am on Jul 21, 2021
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for getting vaccinated...and for being aware of increased transmission risk...pretty much what the thread is about...as opposed to writing styles.

Link: https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/07/20/as-covid-cases-spike-mcconnell-urges-people-to-get-vaccinated/?campaign=coronavirus&utm_email=A4CCC46D457585C2847324F872&g2i_eui=ryElD2z8t95xuP5zAqpv9991ENwxwzQw&g2i_source=newsletter&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=em

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They are not vaccines,gene therapy with very little safety data,read the following

Author: eftg1  (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2012)
Posted at 11:38 pm on Jul 20, 2021
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Now that everybody is getting "vaccinated" what happens next? Let's explore how the agenda will unfold from here.

Right now the whole world, having been terrorized and coerced, is getting inoculated with mRNA to produce (supposedly) the covid spike protein. None of these vaccines are "normal" including Russia's Sputnik V and Johnson & Johnson's. They all introduce instructions for just the spike protein rather than being a complete weakened or killed version of the actual virus or a piece of it. The main difference is whether they're delivered in synthetic lipid nanoparticles (Moderna and Pfizer) or by engineered viral vector with DNA (J&J and Astra Zeneca). The principle is the same, deliver that single spike protein gene and have your cells express it and display it on their surface.

Whether this will result in autoimmune disorders, infertility via siRNA or CRISPR covertly present in the innoculations, or vaccine enhanced disease (like attempts at RSV vaccines) or not this coming flu season is up in the air. This round normalized the idea of rapid, global, untested nanotech "vaccination", immunity passports, and universal basic income. It was a successful sales pitch kicked off in the US under the presidency of a professional salesman and actor.

If a massive wave of illness and death wreaks havoc on the globe in the next year, it will be blamed on a mutant covid strain. Even if nothing bad happens, the story of a mutant covid strain will be used to enact a new round of more stringent lockdowns.

If it can be proven that the most severely affected are those who've been vaccinated and that the unvaccinated have the best health, it will not be reported. The slow and irregular vaccination will be blamed for the spread of mutant variants.

The media narrative will go into overdrive demonizing "anti-vaxxers" and they'll parade out scientists and "officials" to drive this narrative home.


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I have tuned out of fear porn

Author: Curly1918  (18142 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 11:23 pm on Jul 20, 2021
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Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ5ICXMC4xY

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That's one way of looking at it...

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 11:28 pm on Jul 20, 2021
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Here is another ,The CDC is altering

Author: eftg1  (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2012)
Posted at 12:12 am on Jul 21, 2021
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practices of data logging and testing for “Covid19” in order to make it seem the experimental gene-therapy “vaccines” are effective at preventing the alleged disease.

They made no secret of this, announcing the policy changes on their website in late April/early May, (though naturally without admitting the fairly obvious motivation behind the change).

The trick is in their reporting of what they call “breakthrough infections” – that is people who are fully “vaccinated” against Sars-Cov-2 infection, but get infected anyway.

Essentially, Covid19 has long been shown – to those willing to pay attention – to be an entirely created pandemic narrative built on two key factors:

False-positive tests. The unreliable PCR test can be manipulated into reporting a high number of false-positives by altering the cycle threshold (CT value)

Inflated Case-count. The incredibly broad definition of “Covid case”, used all over the world, lists anyone who receives a positive test as a “Covid19 case”, even if they never experienced any symptoms.

Without these two policies, there would never have been an appreciable pandemic at all, and now the CDC has enacted two policy changes which means they no longer apply to vaccinated people.

Firstly, they are lowering their CT value when testing samples from suspected “breakthrough infections”.

From the CDC’s instructions for state health authorities on handling “possible breakthrough infections” (uploaded to their website in late April):

For cases with a known RT-PCR cycle threshold (Ct) value, submit only specimens with Ct value ≤28 to CDC for sequencing. (Sequencing is not feasible with higher Ct values.)

Throughout the pandemic, CT values in excess of 35 have been the norm, with labs around the world going into the 40s.

Essentially labs were running as many cycles as necessary to achieve a positive result, despite experts warning that this was pointless (even Fauci himself said anything over 35 cycles is meaningless).

But NOW, and only for fully vaccinated people, the CDC will only accept samples achieved from 28 cycles or fewer. That can only be a deliberate decision in order to decrease the number of “breakthrough infections” being officially recorded.


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You are all over the lot, Ef...

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 6:30 am on Jul 21, 2021
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Per your post...you're accusing the CDC of "decreasing" the number of breakthrough infections...

"But NOW, and only for fully vaccinated people, the CDC will only accept samples achieved from 28 cycles or fewer. That can only be a deliberate decision in order to decrease the number of “breakthrough infections” being officially recorded."

However, the data being publicized here in the U.S. and in Israel shows "Increasing" breakthrough infections...and a consequent decrease in efficacy of the vaccines due to the Delta variant. If they take Ct's in the range of 35-40...they'll likely get even more positive cases.

I'm not sure what you're getting at.


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Or this

Author: eftg1  (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2012)
Posted at 9:59 am on Jul 21, 2021
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If there is one rule liberty minded people need to remember, it is that the establishment does not like losing control of the narrative. And when they do, noticeably weird things start to happen. For example, it is becoming painfully obvious that the narrative on the experimental mRNA “vaccines” has slipped right through the fingers of the Biden Administration, and as a consequence they are now in a scramble to get millions of vaccines injected into as many skeptical arms as possible before the public organizes for a full push-back against the agenda. It seems to me that they are in a bit of a panic.

The issue became more evident since January when various government entities and the media began to openly complain about the number of vaccine doses that were being thrown in the garbage because of expiration. Why were the vaccines expiring before use? The media spin suggests that it was due to “government mismanagement”, while officials at the state level have admitted that it has been due to a significant drop in demand.

In the meantime, Biden has shipped over 500 million covid vaccine doses overseas in June while at the same time claiming that the US was on track to meet his 70% vaccination goal by July 4th. Needless to say this never happened. The Biden admin now claims that the US population is now 67% vaccinated, and if this was actually true then it would be very close to meeting Anthony Fauci’s original guidelines for herd immunity. So why all the frantic hype about unvaccinated people?

Firstly, Fauci has continually moved the goal posts for herd immunity to the point that he is now telling the public to ignore herd immunity altogether and that the only option is to get EVERYONE vaccinated. Many of us in the liberty media said this is exactly what he would do, and he has proven to be incredibly predictable. Secondly, the CDC vaccination numbers seem to be inflated in order to create a manufactured consensus.

While claiming an overall vaccination rate of 67%, CDC stats indicate a maximum of around 184 million Americans with at least one dose, then indicate 160 million people with a double dose. Yet, according to the Mayo Clinic data map, only four states have a vaccination rate of 67% or more, all in the Northeast. Even California and New York are well under 67%, and the vast majority of states are sitting at around 50% or less.

Frankly, I don’t believe the CDC vaccine numbers at all. New dosage numbers are plunging across the US according to state officials; anyone who hasn’t been jabbed by now is not going to get jabbed unless they are forced to. There are no long lines for vaccines. No wait times. The CDC has even removed the wait time between doses. And still, CVS and Walgreens have been throwing away expired doses by the hundreds of thousands.

If we look at the CDC stats for full vaccination we are closer to 51% of the total US population, which matches more accurately with the Mayo Clinic state statistics. There is no indication that this percentage will be growing beyond the 51% mark anytime soon, if the stats are accurate at all.

This means that at least half the US population is in defiance of the program. This is probably why Fauci and Biden have become more aggressive in their vaccination agenda the past month. If they were getting the nearly 70% vax rates they claim, then they would not be stomping their feet indignantly over unvaccinated people. The stats show a HUGE number of Americans are refusing to take the jab – There’s a vast army of us out there, and this is a good thing.

Why? Because there is simply no reason to take the experimental mRNA vaccine.

FACT: Covid-19 has a median IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) of 0.26% or less.

Why take an experimental vaccine over a virus that 99.7% of the population outside of nursing homes will easily survive? In my home county, only 17 people died from covid in 16 months time, many of them in nursing homes. The majority of the population also stopped wearing masks and ended the lockdowns about three months after the initial outbreak when it became clear that covid was a nothing-burger. The so-called “Delta variant is also prominent here, and neither deaths nor infections have increased in a noticeable way.

Most people here have already had the virus, and it was essentially like a bad flu with an extra kick or extra brain fog. After around a week people recovered. Easy. I perfectly understand people’s concerns when the pandemic first started; we had no idea what we were dealing with. However, after a few months the reality was evident. The continued delusional fear and terror over Covid is just self indulgent paranoia at this point.

FACT: Covid infections and deaths started collapsing LONG before the vaccines were widespread.

The mainstream media continually suggests that the vaccines are the reason for the fall in infections, but this is a lie. Covid cases peaked in January of 2021 and then plunged precipitously. In February of 2021 only 5.9% of the US population had received at least one dose of the mRNA cocktail. In conservative states where mandates were lifted far ahead of blue states and vaccinations are lower, infections and deaths fell even faster. Vaccines have NOTHING to do with the lower infections. Nothing.


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You should send a note to Sean Hannity...

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 10:02 pm on Jul 21, 2021
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https://youtu.be/-Z_Jj7zN_j8

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Saw a report about the lambda variant on ABC...perfect never-ending crisis is 1984 perfect Dem storm

Author: NedoftheHill  (47125 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 11:08 pm on Jul 20, 2021
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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This should be good...What has any of this got to do with a "1984 perfect Dem storm?"...whatever

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 11:25 pm on Jul 20, 2021
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that is.

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It is all explained at the link.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47125 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:04 am on Jul 21, 2021
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Link: https://www.george-orwell.org/1984

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Ned,”Imagine a boot stamping on a human face forever “

Author: eftg1  (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2012)
Posted at 1:19 am on Jul 21, 2021
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After I posted the below, I saw this. I might have to get one.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47125 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:39 am on Jul 21, 2021
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https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.1192719087.4063/ur,flat_mask_three_quarter,tall_portrait,750x1000.jpg

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Indeed.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47125 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:38 am on Jul 21, 2021
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https://preview.redd.it/c237svo2opa11.jpg?auto=webp&s=5a3dfac6183d16f56ed4b440c072a26f8e77c827

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Creative...but illogical...how does a party that fights to have all people vote in elections that

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:30 am on Jul 21, 2021
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even Republican Secretaries of State say where the most secure we've ever seen, equate with Fascism?...as opposed to a party that goes to extreme means to deny voting rights and suggests that legislatures (theirs) overturn elections that they don't agree with...

Fortunately, the majority of voters can see what's going on...it will take time, but democracy will prevail...especially when the whole country gets to see all the witnesses testifying under oath in DJT's coming tidal wave of trials...stay tuned.


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The analogy was the neverending crisis empowers the state. Read 1984.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47125 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 10:50 pm on Jul 21, 2021
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Never let a good crisis go to waste. If there isn't one, create one.

And if the GOP did what Dems did, they would be called killers. They aren't being called that. When Dems do it, whatever "it" is, it is allowed. You want a nation of people, not a nation of laws. Shameful.

As to voting: You seek to let not just everyone (even non-citizens), but also non-people. That is the only reason you would oppose election integrity. That will allow you to keep power. That is how you plan on undermining democracy. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Power at any cost.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Let's start with the question of 'Voter Fraud' first...

Author: TyroneIrish  (25237 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 3:53 am on Jul 22, 2021
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The attached documentation shows that the issue of 'Voter Fraud' didn't just "pop-up" in the 2020 election...Secretaries of State across the nation have been working diligently for decades to continually monitor and improve the process and validity of registrations and voting...the detail shown in just this document underscores why the Georgia Sec'y of State - a Republican - was able to say without fear of contradiction that the 2020 election was fair, with no fraud that would come close to affecting the outcome.

Reading the document lends credence to the finding that in Georgia, for example, only (I believe) one person submitted a ballot for a deceased person...as opposed to Trump's claim of more than 4,000...do attempts at fraud occur?...certainly, but the ability to verify registrations and voting records after the fact, allows those Secretary's of State to "know" how much fraud may have been conducted and therefore allow challenges and undertake audits...this wasn't necessary in 2020...anywhere.

Given that we have sufficient safeguards in place to hold highly contested races already, plus examples of how every single qualified voter can participate, there is no reason for voting to be made any more difficult in the future than it was in 2020...in fact, the means are available to make the process even easier.

As for the '1984' reference, you need to explicitly state what nefarious scheme you think is taking place, because I shudder to even imagine what fantasy you might be caught up in...if it revolves around the belief that the 'Delta variant' is a manufactured/fabricated story, without substance, meant to maintain some level of government control over people (the world over), then the entire Infectious Disease community...scientists and clinicians...would have to be knowingly complicit, and I can guarantee you that there are members whom I know that would be able to detect such a "plot" in an instant, and call it out....that is not happening...what I fear is happening is utter madness, and you may be a part of it.

Explain yourself...


Link: https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/voter-list-accuracy.aspx

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Exactly 👍

Author: eftg1  (12936 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2012)
Posted at 1:48 am on Jul 21, 2021
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