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What can Kamala do to close the deal?

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:26 am on Oct 15, 2024
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Today's polls have Trump winning the key battleground states by a thin margin. Assuming we are not looking at another case of Trump under polling, Kamala needs a "special moment" to shift the momentum back to her.

It's doubtful she can throw any more mud at Trump, who is caked in shit already. She needs to give independents a positive reason to vote for her.

As someone who dreads four years of Trump I'm scratching my head trying to imagine anything she can do or say that would cause me to vote at all.

My fear is that there is no there there and she's just another Stepford Dem.


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She'd tell you: A vote for me is a vote for Cheney. A vote for me is a vote for neocon warmongers

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:55 am on Oct 15, 2024
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A vote for me is a vote for the military-industrial complex. A vote for me is a vote for nuclear war.

I'm sincerely helping you to make decision for the sake of being a ND football fan and being my fellow OF political poster for years. Being a political junkie and spent so many hours caring about politics, it is too bad for you if you are unable to vote. Last words: Both you and I understand my help is truly from my view that you oppose. But it will push you to vote.


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She’s desperate - going on Fox & Joe Rogan. She should just be honest about what she stands for.

Author: LanceManion (7957 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 9:53 am on Oct 15, 2024
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Yes, that will isolate some voters, but if she’s going for the undecideds, they’d like that.

She’ll never do it, and she’ll lose.


Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Therefore if djt went on 60 m’s he’d be desperate?

Author: jimbasil (52689 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:07 am on Oct 15, 2024
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Trump consistently over-performs his polls

Author: Chris94 (36782 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:44 am on Oct 15, 2024
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I think that, barring unforeseen (and unforeseeable) events, he's going to win.

This country is about to elect a dictator. Which explains why patriots are so goddam angry.


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Agree. A “tossup” forecast means Trump will win and sweep swing states.

Author: conorlarkin (21055 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:27 am on Oct 15, 2024
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I will respect the verdict of the electorate, as disheartening as it will be.

But I fear the same electorate will learn a very painful and shameful lesson.


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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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I wouldn’t throw in the towel yet. It will all depend on turn out

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:23 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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D’s still have the organizational advantage there.

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One side will respect the process. The other side is ready to burn it all down.

Author: Chris94 (36782 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:15 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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Dictators win because the other side plays by the rules, and they don't.

It is so depressing how stupid so many of our countrymen are.


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If Trump wins, you know full well there will be large scale riots and violence

Author: MarkHarman (7286 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:11 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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And almost certainly another mob at the Capitol when the votes are official counted.

If that happens, I trust you will bring me to your classroom as an expert on common sense and logic regarding basic human behavior, right?


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Yes. Violence comes from the Left. Recall the organized riots in 2016 that went on for days?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 1:08 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:26 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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I hope you are wrong but you may not be. I do think that this polling captures more of his support

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:03 am on Oct 15, 2024
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than the past ones. We shall see.

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I tend to agree with you here, plus the Gen Z vote is not getting polled for sure.

Author: Quest4twelve (6735 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:34 am on Oct 15, 2024
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We shall see.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:47 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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It's still got to be "too big to rig". That is real. Otherwise, it will be another Midnight Miracle

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:02 am on Oct 15, 2024
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on election night.

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Destroying the simpletons' faith in our system is one of his more catastrophic effects

Author: Chris94 (36782 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:13 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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The system is not rigged.

There is no significant fraud or cheating.

You are a simpleton, fooled by a dictator.


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One day I'll be amazed how supposedly smart people turn stupid in the name of politics!

Author: Quest4twelve (6735 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 10:35 am on Oct 15, 2024
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Ads that remind people that he is literally Hitler, once the American people all remember this they

Author: holybull101 (10567 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:34 am on Oct 15, 2024
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will all vote for her

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He is a dictator. But lots of stupid people like you want to be led by a dictator.

Author: Chris94 (36782 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:44 am on Oct 15, 2024
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So do you doubt that our system has sufficient checks and balances to prevent a Trump dictatorship?

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:57 am on Oct 15, 2024
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Go spend time in the DC area. Out entire federal bureaucracy in like an irresistible tsunami. It runs itself and Trump will be helpless to change it in four years.

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Our system is fragile, Curly. And the Congress is supine. Read the attached article.

Author: Chris94 (36782 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:14 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/11/george-washington-nightmare-donald-trump/679946/

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Pretty sad that this question even has to be asked; that we would even consider someone who

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:08 am on Oct 15, 2024
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is an authoritarian and will push that as far as he can. My response would be that in 2020, Pence was the only thing that stood in the way of a refusal to certify a lawful election. You want to take that chance? Stop trying to normalize this creep and his threat to the nation.

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Arhetorical question. A Trump presidency will be "full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing."

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:27 am on Oct 15, 2024
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Mark Esper disagrees. So does General Milley. Yet you endorse taking that chance. Sad.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:36 am on Oct 15, 2024
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I share Bill Maher's attitude

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:20 am on Oct 15, 2024
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Link: https://www.foxnews.com/media/maher-says-hes-not-worried-about-crazy-trump-winning-election-not-even-nervous

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Of course you do and you will be wrong. I share Esper’s view.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:49 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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He’s been there snd knows what the creep is capable of.

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I've been wrong many times over the decades... but the world keeps on turning.

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 2:44 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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I can be sanguine with any outcome other than Kamala with both houses of Congress... and I'd adjust to that one in a couple days.

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Indeed Curls. It does after all sorts of nasty shit happens. But why invite the nasty shit

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 6:14 pm on Oct 15, 2024
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to happen? It turns (and turns out) better without it me lad.

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This is how the Left works it's way up to justifying the acts they have been accusing the other side

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:01 am on Oct 15, 2024
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of doing.

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Advice from a thoughtful writer:

Author: conorlarkin (21055 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:29 am on Oct 15, 2024
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Link: https://the.ink/p/kamala-harriss-last-mile?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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