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Put aside the hundreds of thousands of dead Ukrainians that we used as proxies to "hurt Putin,"

Author: Cole (16188 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 9:14 am on Oct 25, 2024
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is there a better example of the Biden Administration's incompetence than Putin attending the BRICs meeting with China, Brazil, South Africa and India? With Turkey on the path to joining? Our sanctions were supposed to isolate Putin, but instead we drove him into an alliance with our enemy in China.

Oh, and by the way, his economy is predicted to grow by 3.2% per the IMF, which is faster than the growth in UK, France, and Germany.

We all knew the Biden Administration would incompetently prosecute the war. That prediction has come true in spades. It has been a strategic failure for the U.S. and NATO as we've depleted our military supplies, ran up our debt, devastated Ukraine, and drove Russia into alliances with our enemies. Great job, Kams and Joe!


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We don’t use them. They made the decision to fight something a jackass like you will never

Author: Frank L (64681 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:06 am on Oct 25, 2024
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appreciate.

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Putin is personally responsible for more deaths of Russian speaking people than anyone since Stalin.

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:32 am on Oct 25, 2024
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Ukraine was only a threat to his regime, not to Russia.

He cannot afford to have a free market democracy of Russian speakers on his border because then his own people would clamor for the good life as well.

But he's fighting history itself.


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Well said.

Author: TyroneIrish (20449 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:01 am on Oct 25, 2024
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It's estimated that Ukraine went from 44m to 20m people since the war started.

Author: Cole (16188 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 10:26 am on Oct 25, 2024
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Ukraine wants Poland and others to repatriate Ukrainian men who fled there so they can be forced to join the fight. The Army is being re-supplied with mainly conscripts as all the volunteers are dead or injured.

But even if your statement was true, we don't have to support Ukraine. We can tell it to enter into a peace deal. As I said in my post, supporting Ukraine was not in our strategic interest as Russia has grown stronger, allied itself with China, and NATO has weakened. A strategic disaster has occurred.

It's shameful. Ukraine could've kept its original borders had we told it to accept the deal offered in 2022.


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Meanwhile the average IQ in Russia is plummeting

Author: Curly1918 (16450 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 11:38 am on Oct 25, 2024
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Putin will be a czar to a nation of serfs

Link: https://www.london.edu/news/brain-drain-destroying-russian-future

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Russia has not gotten stronger.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 11:06 am on Oct 25, 2024
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They now rely on crappy drones from Iran. Hundreds of thousands of Russians are dead. They have burned through several decade's worth of tanks and APCs.

NATO has not gotten weaker. NATO has added Sweden and Finland.


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Ukrainians are fighting because they want to fight.

Author: Iggle (12617 Posts - Joined: Sep 14, 2007)

Posted at 9:52 am on Oct 25, 2024
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Sorry. My reply is above.

Author: Cole (16188 Posts - Joined: Oct 15, 2012)

Posted at 10:29 am on Oct 25, 2024
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