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Carville wonders how D’s didn’t package the campaign right. I’ve got your answer, Jimmy

Author: BaronVonZemo (59922 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 3:59 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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It wasn’t the packaging.

It was the product.

Your policies, and Wokism suck and have failed. The people told you over and over, but you continue to see it as “a packaging problem”
It wasn’t racism, it wasn’t mysoginy, and it wasn’t ignorance from Garbage voters.

It was the economy, Stupid. And all you kept doing while people tried to tell you was push for more baby killing rights - assuming that the public was too stupid to know that that issue is now a state level issue.
It was also an artificial candidate who was unintelligent and unable to speak unscripted in public, and a VP “Knucklehead”

Your 80 Jimmy, and you have learned so little. Try fishing, but don’t grumble or you’ll scare away the fish as fast as you did the voters.


Link: https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-carville-admits-hes-been-left-reeling-trump-win-im-very-very-dark-tunnel-right-now

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Thread Level: 2

Cueball-head's psychosis posing as folksy profundities had its time 10-15 years ago.

Author: humbaba (1207 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:12 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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He's just a curiosity and an anachronism now.

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First off, Harris dominated Trump in their debate...he and his campaign staff knew it a refused to

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:05 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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confront her again...her intelligence, clearheadedness and composure under fire demonstrated that she was the better candidate.

As for the economy, given that Inflation was.Global problem brought on by COVID-19 Supply Chain problems and then Putin's invasion of Ukraine...no other developed country did better handling it than the U.S....under Biden's administration...just take a look at the stock market over the last few years...and profit margin data shows clearly how some firms are indeed keeping prices abnormally high.

Then, given that you are an OB/GYN Doc, you should know that when it comes to women, you are on the wrong side of the abortion issue...your own profession calls the Dobbs decision a travesty..it's the WOMEN STUPID...and those former innocent female babies have the sole right to decide whether or not to carry a forced or coerced pregnancy to term...not you...and certainly not politicians.

This election result was fundamentally about Misogyny and Racism...in 2016, a business failure with the morals of an alley cat and no political or public service credentials beat the first woman Presidential candidate...then, in 2020, he was defeated by an old white guy with true political/public service experience...now, in 2024, he wins again against a very intelligent and tough woman with an exemplary public service career, but of Black and South Asian heritage...again, the decision was based on misogyny and racism...not skills, intelligence, performance or clarity of policy for Kamala Harris...since Donald Trump has none of them.

Trump is still the same person...a Convicted Felon, Rapist and Fraud in all he does...there is no way this county improves on his watch. That is sure to become even more evident as we watch his tenure unfold.


Thread Level: 3

Your opening line is false and AMERICA saw through the lies.

Author: Protagonist (1096 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 6:55 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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Check out the Guardian's report on the debate after talking with DJT aides...

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:46 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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...she smoked him...not surprising for an accomplished prosecutor with lots' more intelligence than he has.

Link: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/11/donald-trump-advisers-debate-reaction

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You lost all credibility when you said she was composed. She can’t handle a live interview without

Author: Protagonist (1096 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 11:30 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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Dropping a word salad.

Thread Level: 6

Don’t deflect…Harris dominated Trump in the debate…as for ‘Word Salads’…

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:00 am on Nov 8, 2024
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I don’t think you want to go down that road, what with “Hannibal Lector”…”Sharks and EVs”…etc. ;-)

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Please do.

Author: Protagonist (1096 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 10:10 am on Nov 8, 2024
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I see you learned nothing from this, well done

Author: wrdomerson (2263 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:44 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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"The decision was based on misogyny and racism."

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:32 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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100% false.

Let's say Trump did not decide to run for reelection in 2020. Had Condoleezza Rice or Nikki Haley been the Republican candidate, either one of them would have wiped the floor electorally against Biden.

You have zero idea how conservatives think.


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It certainly wasn't based on intelligence, demonstrated skills, honesty, integrity, morals, ethics,

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:00 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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strength of character, performance, willingness to work with and for those with opposing views, or debating skills.

Trump is the worst possible representation of American values...he's also in the pocket of our worst enemy...


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Well, here is your woman of intelligence, demonstrated skills, honesty, integrity, morals, ethics,

Author: JarHead4ND (4262 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:14 am on Nov 8, 2024
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strength of character, performance, willingness to work with and for those with opposing views, or debating skills.

1981: 🚩Graduated High School in CANADA, where she grew up from the age of 12.
1981: Attended Vanier College in Montreal, for 1yr.
1982: 🚩Transferred to Howard University but has to repeat first year of courses.
1986: Graduated Howard University

🚩 No US Diploma and took 5yrs to complete a 4yr undergraduate degree.

🚩🚩Kamala got into law school through an affirmative action program called the Legal Education Opportunity Program. As the underachieving daughter of Professors, Kamala is a prime example of how AA was abused, and why it is illegal, today.

1987: 🚩#82 Law School in US
1988: 🚩#82 Law School in US
1989: Graduated from: Hasting College of Law
1990: Staff Lawyer in DA's office in Bay Area (all newbies are called eg “Assistant DAs” or “Deputy DAs”, etc.)

🚩FAILED Bar Exam and, after needing a do-over, eventually passed. NOTE: Kamala Harris was a below average law student; 18% of her UC Hastings law classmates failed the bar that year.

1991: Staff Lawyer with DA's office
1992: Staff Lawyer, until employment is terminated.

1993: 🚩Began 10 year affair with married man Willie Brown, twice her age.

(Finally registered to vote at Age 29, despite telling everyone she was an avid “feedumb” advocate since childhood.)

1994: 🚩Willie appointed her to high-paying job on Unemployment Insurance Board.

🚩Kamala had no insurance experience though, so the press took notice of Brown inappropriately appointing his mistress to public political positions and wrote about it, even in, eg, The Los Angeles Times, etc.

1995: 🚩Kamala quit Unemployment Insurance Board as Willie appointed her to a different higher-paying position that required fewer hours and just once a month meetings - CA Medical Asst. Commission.

🚩Yet again, Kamala had no medical or relevant legal experience, though. More bad press shared this truth.

1996: Nothing Else
1997: Nothing Else
1998: Willie sent her back to a Staff Attorney job, managing fine and fee processing filing at CCU in SF for DA's Office.

1999: 🚩Caught neglecting to properly file exculpatory evidence in George Gage case—led to 70 year prison sentence. Press was all over it.

2000: 🚩Had to leave there, so Willie sent her to work as a Staff Attorney at SF City Hall, working for city attorney Louise Renne, filing child abuse & neglect cases.
2001: Same
2002: 🚩Lied about Prosecutorial Record. Press was all over it.

(🚩🚩Google Search shows no video, pics or any evidence of Kamala Harris actually prosecuting a case, talking to press after she did, etc., like typical DA's Office Attorneys do, etc., bc she never actually did.)

2003: 🚩NONETHELESS, powerful local politician and mayor now, Willie Brown, admitted he miraculously helped get Staff Attorney Kamala elected as San Francisco DA!!

2004: 🚩Refused to seek death penalty for cop murderer.
2005: 🚩Refused to release records of sexually abusive Priests.
2006:
2007:
2008:
2009:
2010: Elected as CA AG by 0.5% margin.
2011: 🚩Withheld information leading to 600+ drug-related cases being tossed.
2012: 🚩Threw 1,500+ people behind.
2013: bars over marijuana offenses
2014: and refused early release of
2015: prisoners allowing state to benefit from cheap labor.
2016: Elected to the CA U.S. Senate seat.
2017:
2018: 🚩Chanted “down, down with deportation” at parade w/hoaxter Jussie Smollett.

2019: 🚩Entered 2020 presidential race—dropped out over no support from her own State, due to her publicized abysmal history and lack of real experience.

https://sfchronicle.com/opinion/article/sure-i-dated-kamala-harris-so-what-13562972.php
https://latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-11-29-mn-2787-story.html
https://usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2019/01/27/willie-brown-kamala-harris-san-francisco-chronicle-letter/2695143002/
https://lawnews.tv/my-classmate-kamala-harris-rode-affirmative-action-leop-willie-etc/


No more calls to Holly for kitchen clean-up. RIP old faithful companion.
Thread Level: 6

Not exactly an un-biased perspective on VP Harris...you've left out ALL her notable accomplishments,

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:10 pm on Nov 8, 2024
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which are summarized in the attached Wiki link...I won't repeat them all, but take a look at what she did as DA and then as AG...perhaps her mentor, Willie Brown saw such capability early on. btw, wrt WB and KH dating...WB's marriage was publicly on the rocks before they got together...they are consenting adults and there's no scandal involved.

But let's cut to the chase...the context of this thread is making a choice between Trump and Harris. By any of the measures I noted, she is superior to him. If you'd like we can take each one and do a compare and contrast...I'm all in on that exercise...want to start with relative intelligence and educational performance? (note that according to Michael Cohen, DJT had him threaten any of the schools he attended if they spoke of his performance there))...what's it going to be...silence or engagement?


Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamala_Harris

Thread Level: 5

As my liberal wife noted, it's the economy, stupid

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:07 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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You can rationalize inflation cooling, stock market up, wages allegedly rising all you want. What you, Quest, Chris, Conor and the rest of you in six-figureland don't realize is the majority of us who don't make six figures are STRUGGLING. Sure, inflation may be lessening but that doesn't take away from the fact that prices rose so drastically in three years our (in our case) meager pay raises didn't keep up.

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Then you should have voted for Harris...she ran on programs to help people like you, improved

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:02 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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child care tax credits...which you said you liked...aid to low income home buyers...legislation against price gouging corporations, etc...whereas DJT sides with big corps and against unions...you're absolutely NOT on his radar....why can't you see this?

I feel safe in predicting that he won't improve your financial condition one bit...according to economists you're looking at more inflation and job losses.

When has Trump EVER espoused or fought for a program/legislation that provides financial benefits for someone in your demographic?...has he ever spelled out even a plan of action for you?


Thread Level: 7

Hannity just put up a graphic which will explain this to you

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:49 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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Real income (adjusted for inflation) for lower income people went up 8.5% under Trump. Under Biden? -1.5%.

Average family (we're slightly below) paying $13,000 more for same items today than when Biden took over. My wife's and my income certainly did not increase $13,000.

You just don't get it. You keep talking theory and programs. I, and the majority of us, are living this. What about this are you not understanding?

You're like a losing football coach who touts "Hey, our statistics are better" and yet keeps losing the same or more number of games.


Thread Level: 8

Trump inherited Obama's economy after leading an outstanding recovery from a near depression...

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:21 am on Nov 8, 2024
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..and he never had to deal with the inflation resulting from the COVID-19 pandemic supply chain disruptions, or Putin's attack on Ukraine...you think it's been easy to bring nearly 10% inflation down to where it is today?...Some corporations have been shown to continue making higher than normal profit margins...some of it justified...some not.

The only data point with regard to something Trump did while in office, is to ram through a nearly $2T tax break for corporations and the wealthiest Americans at a time when he should have been reducing the deficit...not increasing it.

In a food price scenario, you and Hannity are comparing 'Apples and Oranges' ;-).


Thread Level: 9

Yes, let's talk about the Trump tax cuts and the deficit

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:36 pm on Nov 8, 2024
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Revenues to the Treasury increased 22% from 2017-2021.

Revenues to the Treasury increased 16% from 2013-2017, Obama's last term.


Thread Level: 10

Take a look at the attached 'ProPublica' article...

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:52 pm on Nov 8, 2024
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...btw, Trump promised to cut the deficit...he did the opposite. Why do you place your trust in a convicted Felon, a Rapist and Repetitive Fraud...among many other faults?


...from that article...
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One of President Donald Trump’s lesser known but profoundly damaging legacies will be the explosive rise in the national debt that occurred on his watch. The financial burden that he’s inflicted on our government will wreak havoc for decades, saddling our kids and grandkids with debt.

The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office. That’s nearly twice as much as what Americans owe on student loans, car loans, credit cards and every other type of debt other than mortgages, combined, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It amounts to about $23,500 in new federal debt for every person in the country.

The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration, according to a calculation by a leading Washington budget maven, Eugene Steuerle, co-founder of the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. And unlike George W. Bush and Abraham Lincoln, who oversaw the larger relative increases in deficits, Trump did not launch two foreign conflicts or have to pay for a civil war.

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Link: https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

https://assets-c3.propublica.org/images/articles/_threeTwo2000w/20210114-borrowing-increased-under-trump-despite-promise-to-repay-national-debt-small.png

Thread Level: 11

According to your own chart, Biden took it to a whole new level

Author: MarkHarman (7276 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:00 am on Nov 9, 2024
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Thread Level: 12

Look again at the chart...Trump promised to pay down the deficit, but it kept rising due to his $2T

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:44 am on Nov 9, 2024
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Tax Cut and unabated spending...THEN...COVID hit, necessitating stimulus spending, which he botched by cutting out the Inspector General who was supposed to oversee all the spending...why would a fiscally responsible President do such a thing? (Hint: Trump isn't fiscally responsible..., plus he's a constant Fraud). In short, DJT has, and will continue, raiding the U.S. coffers for himself and wealthy friends...just like his BFF, Vlad does in Russia.

As for Biden, he takes his job seriously, and made sure there was an IG for his COVID spending, and then introduced legislation as well as budgets, that actually reduced the deficit and would continue to stabilize it. (see attached link).

Trump will never, ever, change...he is by nature a Felon, Rapist and Fraud...along with being an incredibly weak man being controlled by the nation's worst enemy, Vladimir Putin. Now just sit back and watch what happens...both domestically and internationally...he won't ever try to work for ALL Americans like Biden, or Harris, and seek common ground legislation for problems like Immigration and Energy Independence (which we can't get with FFs alone).


Link: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/03/11/fact-sheet-the-presidents-budget-cuts-the-deficit-by-3-trillion-over-10-years/

Thread Level: 7

She had 4 years and did nothing other than destroy people’s paychecks.

Author: jray (3338 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:25 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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Jray...you're an Open Forum Original Member, i.e. you're old enough to know that VPs don't make any

Author: TyroneIrish (20440 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:28 am on Nov 8, 2024
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policy decisions...at all...and her boss has been President during an outstanding recovery from the COVID pandemic and Putin War Inflation shock...btw, better than any other developed nation. Thank God, Trump wasn't in charge during that time period, given his multiple bankruptcies and failed business ventures...a man who can't even get a loan now from a major U.S. Bank...pray that we don't encounter another economic challenge during the next 4 years.

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I use to enjoy listening to him. Last 6 months?? Effing nut job.

Author: Frankx (5313 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 4:11 pm on Nov 7, 2024
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