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Catholic vote got Trump elected.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59965 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:43 am on Nov 10, 2024
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Link: https://www.ncregister.com/commentaries/election-2024-donald-trump-and-catholic-vote

Replies to: Catholic vote got Trump elected.


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Time's Up!...looks as though no one is going to defend U.S. Catholic leaders for being silent in the

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:33 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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face of unmistakable lies by Trump and Vance about immigrants...small wonder.

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You misspelled Latino.

Author: ND521 (9413 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:45 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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It's been a couple of hours now since I posted the NCR Editorial, yet no response to that content...

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:01 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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I'm off to Mass right now...hopefully, at least one person will be willing to address it before I return.

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Government has no obligation to "welcome" illegal immigrants

Author: MarkHarman (7277 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:10 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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Personally, knowing half the Latino people I see (according to statistical analyses) are here illegally, I still treat them with respect and dignity. That's what the Bible commands us to do.

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"U.S. Chamber: We Can’t Fill 11.3 Million Open Jobs without More Legal Immigration"...it's in our

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:41 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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"Enlightened Self-Interest" to admit more immigrants (Note...it's a key element in GDP growth)...from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce article...
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Today’s report from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) revealed there were 11.3 million job openings in January, little changed from 11.4 million the month before.

“There are 4.75 million more open jobs today than there are people looking for work. One reason for the shortfall is decreased legal immigration. It is past time for Congress to act to modernize our broken immigration system,” says U.S. Chamber of Commerce Executive Vice President and Chief Policy Officer Neil Bradley.

“As a result of COVID and other policy changes, there are one million fewer college educated immigrants in the United States today. We can’t get inflation under control, unclog our supply chains, or fully grow our economy and remain competitive unless we welcome more people into our country to fill these jobs.”

The U.S. Chamber recently joined a diverse group of industries and organizations across the political spectrum in announcing a new coalition, The Alliance for a New Immigration Consensus. The coalition of business, faith, and advocacy leaders is working to build support for bipartisan legislative solutions that provide permanent legal protections and other reforms for Dreamers, TPS recipients, and agricultural workers.  

For the latest statistics capturing the current state of the workforce, visit the America Works Data Center. The Data Center is part of America Works, a partnership of the U.S. Chamber and U.S. Chamber Foundation mobilizing industry and government to swiftly address America’s worker shortage crisis by providing research on underlying workforce issues, policy recommendations, and practical workforce solutions for businesses.

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Are you willing to pick vegetables...work in a meat packing plant in Iowa, or risk your life on a bridge repair in Baltimore?...who's going to do those critical jobs? btw, go to Texas and see if the businesses there want their companies raided looking for undocumented immigrants...or just Google The Texas Tribune, looking for an article entitled "In Texas, lawmakers don't mess with employers of undocumented workers"


Link: https://www.uschamber.com/workforce/u-s-chamber-we-cant-fill-xx-million-open-jobs-without-more-legal-immigration

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I read it...and I'm not moved. The world has a gazillian young men seeking economic opportunities.

Author: Curly1918 (16452 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 2:29 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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The authors of your link probably oppose capitalism itself... even though this system has been infinitely better for more people than any other. THAT is why these folks are invading our country. They should create their own free enterprise system at home and throw out the leftist dictators favored by the Catholic clergy.

Link: https://crisismagazine.com/opinion/illegal-immigration-and-the-catholic-church-follow-the-money

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Now watch this video of Ronald Reagan's last speech as President...I've posted it before, but

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:28 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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obviously needs repeating...and as for Capitalism, that's the system those immigrants are clamoring to join. BTW, you still haven't commented on the Bishop's silence in response to obvious lies regarding immigrants.




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During the Reagan era no one was exploiting the desperate for $$$.

Author: Curly1918 (16452 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 5:59 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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I have never been prouder to be a Catholic and an American.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 10:50 am on Nov 10, 2024
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longtime National Catholic Register was burgled by Left w heretic "National Catholic Reporter"

Author: BaronVonZemo (59965 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:53 am on Nov 10, 2024
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which was done intentionally to confuse people with a similar name and the same initials so that they could try to fool people into thinking that they were hearing from a legitimate publication on catholicism.

The devil deals in lies and deceit. Trust nothing from the latter, and distrust any who try to use the acronym NCR to misrepresent the true publication that earned the recognition for the acronym.

The National Catholic Register is a catholic publication, the National Catholic Reporter is indistinguishable from The Daily Kos.


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Baron...I'm the one who posted that Editorial...you can speak to me directly...I'm not going to call

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:02 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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you names like "Serpent Tongue" ;-)...so, how's about dealing with what the Editorial says about our U.S. Bishops being silent about obvious lies that go against long established Catholic teaching...what are you afraid of?

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Take a look at the NCR Editorial...are you proud of Catholic leaders silence in the face of lies

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:21 am on Nov 10, 2024
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against Catholic Social teaching?

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Ty, welcome back. You escaped from the re-education program. We desperately need your links.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 11:30 am on Nov 10, 2024
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You desperately need to face what the NCR Editorial exposes...what's your response?

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:34 am on Nov 10, 2024
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NCR=NCD. The National Catholic Distorter. It hates Catholics more than the Democrats.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 11:40 am on Nov 10, 2024
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Show some spine...what is your response to the Editorial writer's comments about our U.S. Bishops

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:04 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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being silent regarding obvious lies about immigrants that violate long established Catholic Social Teachings?

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Catholic teaching says that a country has a right to protect its borders.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 12:19 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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What Biden-Harris did was criminal by opening the borders to everyone. It was a crime against the American people and common sense.

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Perhaps you missed my link to Mark Harman...the bipartisan Immigration Bill addressed those concerns

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:57 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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...so, I've attached it for you...the one that Trump killed.

Now, let's get back to the NCR Editorial exposing the silence of our U.S. Bishops to long held Catholic teaching on Social Justice...what have you to say about the author's comments?


Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=222199

Thread Level: 10

Enough, Ty! Go back to the re-education program. The country is moving right.

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 1:06 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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What's your response to the charge that our Catholic leaders have been silent in the face of

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:09 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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damaging lies that go against Catholic teachings on Social Justice?

Thread Level: 12

Ty, your liberal shit is irrelevant now. Get used to it!

Author: Irishize (7596 Posts - Joined: Dec 1, 2018)

Posted at 1:11 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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Truth is the antidote to Lies and Misinformation...get used to it...it's not going to stop.

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:43 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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Truth from where CNNN MSNBC NYT etc

Author: Buffaloirish (1472 Posts - Joined: Sep 29, 2015)

Posted at 11:50 pm on Nov 12, 2024
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You retards fall for their lies every day
BTW Dipshit Dems lost the House, Senate and presidency
bahahahahahahahahahha
Got those Babe pictures?


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NCR Editorial: "Catholic leaders shamefully silent as Trump, Vance lie about immigrants"...a victory

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:40 am on Nov 10, 2024
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built on lies...and non-stop misinformation...from the attached Editorial...
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Republican candidates Donald Trump and JD Vance have been spreading lies about immigrants in the United States as a cornerstone of their campaign. There is no other word that applies to the vile and easily provable untruths they spew.

The fallout from Trump's hateful rhetoric and his promise to conduct a massive deportation will persist beyond Nov. 5 no matter who wins. The former president has fashioned a narrative and planted it so successfully in the public imagination that it will impose itself on any discussion of immigration well into the future.

It is a narrative that poses a lethal threat at the heart of Catholic social teaching, an open dare to those whose faith finds Trump's language and intent repulsive.

So what are we Catholics to do? We, for whom the very substance of our faith is not in public piety or escape from the world but in compassion for the lost, the homeless, the abandoned, for those seeking refuge from state violence and poverty.

The shameful silence of our Catholic leaders has been beyond deafening.

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It's not just the silence in the face of overt lying...it's the closing of eyes to basic Catholic social teaching. What's your response?


Link: https://www.ncronline.org/opinion/editorial/editorial-catholic-leaders-shamefully-silent-trump-vance-lie-about-immigrants

Thread Level: 3

Is it your position illegal immigrants should be rewarded for breaking illegally into the U.S.?

Author: MarkHarman (7277 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:12 am on Nov 10, 2024
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We have a broken Immigration and Border Protection system...I'm in favor of making the Senate

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:23 am on Nov 10, 2024
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bipartisan Immigration Bill law.

btw, make sure you read all of that NCR Editorial...he's telling the truth.


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As usual, you didn't answer my question

Author: MarkHarman (7277 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:32 am on Nov 10, 2024
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Are you in favor of rewarding people for successfully entering the country illegally? In terms of no deportation, work status, path to citizenship, etc.

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Yes, I have...read my post (attached) regarding all the issues that concern you...it is GOP Senator

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:38 am on Nov 10, 2024
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Lankford's summary of the bipartisan Immigration Bill he championed.

When you're done with that, please respond to the NCR Editorial that calls our our Catholic Bishops for their silence regarding the lies by Trump and Vance on this issue.


Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=222199

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You are ok. You’ve been so quiet lately, we thought you would need an intervention.😜

Author: jray (3338 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:58 am on Nov 10, 2024
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Any response to the NCR Editorial?

Author: TyroneIrish (20461 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:02 am on Nov 10, 2024
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A lot more people than just Catholics got Trump elected.

Author: Hensou (8163 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 9:36 am on Nov 10, 2024
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Jews too.

Author: BaronVonZemo (59965 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:36 pm on Nov 10, 2024
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