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Posting it for Conor. NYT: Broad Pardon for Hunter Biden Troubles Experts.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:29 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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President Biden granted blanket clemency to stop his son from being prosecuted by the Trump administration for his foreign business. Experts reached for historical parallels.

With President Biden’s pardon, his son escaped a legal reckoning not just for crimes for which he was found guilty, but likely for any crimes he might have committed in the past 11 years. That sweeping amnesty is raising awkward historical comparisons and sharp questions about the use of presidential clemency.

It also has inflamed a debate about who deserves mercy and for what, while underscoring the Biden family’s concerns about Hunter Biden’s vulnerability to prosecution related to his foreign business activities. Experts searched for an apt comparison, finding some similarities to the pardons granted by Gerald R. Ford to Richard M. Nixon; Andrew Johnson to former Confederate soldiers; George H.W. Bush to Iran-contra figures; and to those issued to more distant family members by President Bill Clinton and by Donald J. Trump during his first term.
Yet, none of those pardons seemed to hit as close to home for the presidents who issued them, nor did they cover as broad a range of activity over as long a period of time, experts said.

“It is extraordinarily hazardous to use the pardon power in a case where the person is an intimate of the president,” said Aziz Z. Huq, a professor at the University of Chicago Law School.

Mr. Huq, who warned against Mr. Trump pardoning himself at the end of his first term, said President Biden’s pardon of his son “really does strike at the rule of law.”

Presidents have unchecked authority to issue pardons, which wipe out convictions, and commutations, which reduce prison sentences. The Justice Department’s Office of the Pardon Attorney is tasked with identifying, vetting and recommending worthy clemency recipients for the president. The office’s regulations specify that it considers pardon applications only from people who have waited at least five years after their conviction or release from prison.

Hunter Biden had yet to be sentenced, let alone to serve any time, so he would not have qualified for a recommendation from the office, and it does not appear as if he applied for one.
President Biden’s pardon granted immunity for gun crimes for which his son had been convicted in June and tax crimes to which he had pleaded guilty in September. He could have faced more than 40 years in prison. The pardon also immunized him for any other crimes he “may have committed or taken part in” starting from Jan. 1, 2014 through Sunday.

The beginning of that date range is significant. It is a few months before he joined the board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma Holdings — a position in which Republicans have accused him of violating foreign lobbying laws. They have also used it as a political cudgel against his father.

Prosecutors did not bring charges of violating foreign lobbying laws, but they hinted that they had evidence that might have supported doing so, citing his arrangement with a Romanian real estate magnate, which appears to have started in 2015.

The pardon, which represents a reversal of President Biden’s promise not to grant clemency to his son, is designed to pre-empt the incoming Justice Department from acting on Mr. Trump’s pledge to prosecute the Bidens.
“One of the reasons the president did the pardon is because it didn’t seem like his political opponents would let go of it, it didn’t seem like they would move on,” Karine Jean-Pierre, the White House press secretary, said on Monday.

‘Different rules’
Frank O. Bowman III, a professor at the University of Missouri School of Law, said “if we had anyone other than Trump coming in, I would think this is inexcusable.”
He continued: “But I don’t know, man. We’re kind of playing with different rules here.”
Mr. Bowman, who is writing a book about the history of presidential clemency, said the pardon fits into a category that grants amnesty for an array of unspecified crimes.

The closest parallel for such a “blanket” pardon, according to experts, was Mr. Ford’s amnesty for Mr. Nixon for any crimes he may have committed during his time in office — a shorter period than that covered by President Biden’s pardon of his son, but also one that included the Watergate break-in and cover-up.

Some experts questioned whether Mr. Ford had overreached because Mr. Nixon had not been charged, let alone convicted, of any crime. There were calls for the Watergate special prosecutor to bring charges to test the validity of the pardon in court, though none were ever filed.

Most experts did not see the pardon’s lack of specificity as an issue.
Samuel T. Morison, a clemency lawyer, wrote in an email that “the terms of the grant will be read essentially like a statute.”

Mr. Morison, who worked for years in the Office of the Pardon Attorney before going into private practice, added that the Bidens may have seen risk in crafting the pardon grant more narrowly.
“I assume that Hunter’s lawyers were worried that an especially vindictive Trump DOJ would have looked for something to charge him with if they were too specific, so they asked for a blanket pardon, subject only to a fairly broad date range,” he wrote in an email.
Kimberly Wehle, a law professor at the University of Baltimore, predicted that if Mr. Trump’s Justice Department were to charge Hunter Biden, he would raise the pardon in a motion to dismiss the case.

Ms. Wehle, the author of a recent book detailing how the lack of constraints on presidential clemency powers invite abuse, said in an email that it was Mr. Trump — not President Biden — who initiated “the norm-violating behavior” by pledging to use the Justice Department to prosecute his enemies.

“This is not a corrupt pardon,” she said in an email. “It’s about taking care of a family member knowing what Trump will do otherwise.”

Jeffrey Crouch, an assistant professor of politics at American University who studies clemency, drew a distinction between what presidents can do, and what they should do.

“Legally, the president can pardon pretty much whomever they want,” he said in an email. “Morally, it does raise some questions.”


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/02/us/politics/broad-pardon-for-hunter-biden-troubles-experts.html

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Once again,libs rationalize breaking the law & rules. Liberalism Rule #3: The ends justify the means

Author: BaronVonZemo (60141 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:37 am on Dec 3, 2024
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Speaking of pardons, you know that pardoned felon, Charles Kushner will be our next ambassador to

Author: Frank L (64782 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:11 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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France? Remember what he served 2 years in federal prison for?

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You missed the point or more likely you try to change the subject - the implication of broad pardon

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:58 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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Do we really care if Hunter goes to prison or not for tax and gun violation? No. Who cares about the fate of Hunter. If Joe wants to save Hunter from those sentences. That's fine. The point is Joe didn't issue a pardon specific to those charges. Instead he issued a broad immunity on everything Hunter did spaning for 11 years. Another issue, not related to this article, is the hypocrisy and lies Joe has had in this whole process. "Nobody above law". " No, I won't pardon Hunter"... This made his pardon very disgraceful. No other presidents did any pardon before like that.

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I agree with the point that no pardon should have been issued.

Author: Frank L (64782 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:46 am on Dec 3, 2024
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The point that you miss is that you are perfectly willing to criticize what you view as the corrupt nature of the pardon while likely having no problem with the corrupt Kushner pardon and then appointment as the chief diplomat to one of our most important allies. Called hypocrisy, Chicom killer.

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He served his time, how much time did Hunter serve, I’ll wait for your response……

Author: jamie (1485 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:55 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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My response is do you believe someone with his record should be Ambassador to France?

Author: Frank L (64782 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:41 am on Dec 3, 2024
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Or is it an appointment of nepotism of a corrupt and morally bankrupt man?

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It couldn't have matched the number of crimes Hunter admitted to.

Author: THEISMANCARR (17220 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 10:44 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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Complete bastardization and undermining of the justice system

Author: LanceManion (7975 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 8:20 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Based on NYT piece I say this pardon from Joe Biden is to protect both his son and himself.

Author: Eli (9555 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:33 pm on Dec 2, 2024
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Comer and friends have been trying to find evidence of corruption by JB for a couple of years...

Author: TyroneIrish (20680 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:21 am on Dec 3, 2024
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haven't seen a thing yet...have you?

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