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Bonhoeffer's 'Theory of Stupidity'...History repeating itself with the MAGAs...begs the question of

Author: TyroneIrish (20688 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:54 am on Dec 10, 2024
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how to get people to see and appreciate facts, reason and reality.





Replies to: Bonhoeffer's 'Theory of Stupidity'...History repeating itself with the MAGAs...begs the question of


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That video is quite damning of the extreme Left. Thanks for bringing it forward.

Author: NedoftheHill (44737 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:58 pm on Dec 10, 2024
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Interesting that the video points out that sociological stupidity is more prominent in urban areas rather than rural, and that it is a sociological issue, not an individual biological issue.

Also interesting that you post it when the Left is becoming more violent (assassination attempts, riots, etc.).

I posted a few months ago about Carlo Cipolla's "The Basic Laws of Human Stupidity" which point out that stupidity is more prominent than people think, even among the highly educated...where it can be especially harmful because people do not expect it, and give deference to anti-common-sensical views when such is not warranted.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlo_M._Cipolla

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Nice try, but no cigar, Ned...the Bonhoeffer video does not discriminate between urban and rural

Author: TyroneIrish (20688 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:10 pm on Dec 10, 2024
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Stupid People...that's your concoction. Also, we have one left leaning person involved in a murder, but thousands of Trump followers who stormed our Capitol on Jan. 6th causing great harm to over a hundred police officers...plus one of the rioters losing her life...not counting the potential damage and future loss of life to millions should they have succeeded...all because they were not smart enough to discern they were lied to by Trump.

As regards Cipolla, he wrote about 'Stupid People' in 1976...so given that Bonhoeffer was executed on Hitler's orders in 1945, it's possible and likely that he was influenced by the German Pastor...btw, even J.D. Vance refers to Trump as a 'wannabe' Hitler who is adept at attracting Stupid People to his cause.

As both Bonhoeffer and Cipolla contend, Stupidity is not the sole province of those without adequate intelligence. As I've conveyed before, Intelligence does not always equate to Wisdom...witness the recent assassin's (Luigi Mangione) stellar education achievements...or Ted Kaczynski's...but they represent a decided minority of rational intellectuals. Therefore, it would be wrong to place one's trust in Stupid People as opposed to Intelligent ones. Therein lies our problem going forward...how to deal with the throngs of MAGAs who continually make horrible decisions, and follow a horrible man.

Now you are IMO above average in intelligence...so are you just "Stupid" in your support of Trump, or a malicious Opportunist...or a Libertarian caught up in your misguided and poorly informed bubble?


Link: https://www.chattnewschronicle.com/commentary/unmasking-stupidity/

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One of the best examples is the 2020 Orange election denialism and the storming of the Capitol by

Author: Frank L (64788 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:07 am on Dec 10, 2024
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his supporters. Any reasoning person could see the election wasn’t stolen. Yet a majority of members of one of our 2 major parties insisted it was and it led to the events of 1/6/21.

People like that can’t be reasoned with.

I don’t know the solution.


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