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Trump (i.e. Musk), Vance direct Congress to raise debt ceiling on 'Biden's watch'...anyone for a

Author: TyroneIrish (20574 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:24 am on Dec 19, 2024
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Gov't shutdown over Christmas?...Congress hammered out a bipartisan deal to keep the country functioning, but at the last minute our #1 Oligarch says NO DEAL. Here's an excerpt from the attached article...
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“This should not pass,” Musk posted on his social media site X in the wee hours of Wednesday morning.

The outcome comes as no surprise for Johnson, who like other Republican House speakers before him, has been unable to convince his majority to go along with the routine needs of federal government operations, which they would prefer to slash.

It all shows just how hard it will be for Republicans next year, as they seize control of the House, Senate and White House, to unify and lead the nation. And it underscores how much Johnson and the GOP leaders must depend on Trump’s blessing to see any legislative package over the finish line.

“What does President Trump want Republicans to do: vote for the CR or shut down government? Absent direction, confusion reigns,” said retiring Sen. Mitt Romney, R-Utah, in a sly post on X.Musk, who is heading the his new Department of Government Efficiency was leading the charge against it, warned that “Any member of the House or Senate who votes for this outrageous spending bill deserves to be voted out in 2 years!”

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What Musk doesn't understand is that the GOP has thin margins in both the House and Senate, so in essence, they NEED to strike negotiated, bipartisan deals...sooner or later, and "Later" most always invites harm to the American public. He's not in charge of a company...it's a representative democracy...at least as long as we can keep it that way.


Link: https://www.scrippsnews.com/politics/trump-vance-direct-congress-to-raise-debt-ceiling-on-bidens-watch

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I guess the nation voted Musk king. Orange just wants revenge, golf, deports, and homage. Pathetic.

Author: Frank L (64740 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:24 am on Dec 19, 2024
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Slashing gazillions in government waste. Pathetic.

Author: Curly1918 (16474 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:47 am on Dec 19, 2024
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None of it in his contracts, I take it?

Author: Frank L (64740 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:14 pm on Dec 19, 2024
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Don't think for one moment that Musk isn't gunning for his share of another multi-Trillion dollar

Author: TyroneIrish (20574 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:59 am on Dec 19, 2024
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tax break, while the rest of the country struggles to deal with an ever widening Wealth Gap...talk about waste. How do you justify that, Curly?

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Link?

Author: ColeyO (12511 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:08 am on Dec 19, 2024
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Author: Curly1918 (16474 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 5:01 am on Dec 19, 2024
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I suspect the mood of the country would WELCOME a temporary shutdown…

Author: Curly1918 (16474 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 5:01 am on Dec 19, 2024
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The legacy media has lost its mojo and most folks are tuned out so they can howl all they want. The sky won’t fall.

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The Plutocrats may not be concerned, but a couple of hundred million others would. Again, sooner or

Author: TyroneIrish (20574 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:40 am on Dec 19, 2024
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later a bill must be passed...and the fractured GOP can't make it happen w/o the assistance of Democrats...in both the House and Senate. Musk and Trump are living in a fantasy world...not to mention several folks on this Forum ;-).

As for the impacts of a Gov't Shutdown, check out the attached summary.


Link: https://www.crfb.org/papers/government-shutdowns-qa-everything-you-should-know

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See above. It will make DOGE’s job really easy PLUS prevent more pork spending.

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:01 am on Dec 19, 2024
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Can you provide a link of DOGE’s statutory authority?

Author: conorlarkin (21052 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:33 am on Dec 19, 2024
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They have no statutory power.

Oh I forgot. Statutory authority and the rule of law aren’t relevant in an oligarchy.


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Silly. Not YET until they are officially given authority. But now is the observation period.....

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 9:56 am on Dec 19, 2024
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Don't be a High Drama Llama. In fact, they don't have to be anything more an advisory tool, a group that studies and gives advice to the various departmental authorities appointed by President Trump.

What a great opportunity to see whose absence we really find to be painful. It will separate the wheat from the chaff through empirical testing. That is good science.

The free ride is almost over. Please shut down and make this easier for us.


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Americans will quickly learn what a lack of leadership and inability to govern looks like.

Author: conorlarkin (21052 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:40 am on Dec 19, 2024
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Trump and his oligarchs falsely believe they enter office with a mandate and a green light to bully anyone who pushes back.

Go for it, Donald! You will soon have the keys to the car. Please drive recklessly.

America deserves it.

We’ll see how giddy our MAGA “winning” contingent will be in 2026.


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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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We have. Where’s Joe Biden?

Author: BaronVonZemo (60103 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 8:15 am on Dec 19, 2024
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