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Elon meets The Blob

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:15 am on Dec 20, 2024
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The man who believes he can do anything is about to get engulfed in DC.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-heIT3L9Qg

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Thread Level: 2

Eff him. Jackass. Thinks he bought control of the nation. Oops, guess he has.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:18 am on Dec 20, 2024
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I'm already seeing people say there will be a shadow government....

Author: NedoftheHill (44720 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:00 am on Dec 20, 2024
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...as if Trump has a weak personality and can be controlled like Biden or Harris.

Pretty rich coming from commentators who can't tell us who is commander in chief right now.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 4

An off-the-charts Malignant Narcissist like DJT can easily be manipulated by powerful people like

Author: TyroneIrish (20597 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:32 pm on Dec 20, 2024
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Musk, or Putin since he has massive insecurities...here's an excerpt from the attached article...Note that J.D. Vance once called Trump a "Hitler" wannabe who could be "Useful"...and Vance himself is a tool of another Plutocrat, Peter Theil...so, YES, there is a "Shadow Government" attempting to assert itself.
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Strategies for Manipulating a Narcissist
If there’s a narcissist in your life, it’s crucial to learn ways to manage their behavior and protect yourself, especially in situations where your safety is at risk. These strategies can help you manage such situations and give you the time needed to safely exit the relationship if you feel you're at risk of being physically or psychologically harmed.

If you're not having your needs met, whether the narcissist in your life is a friend or a romantic partner, it may be time to consider ending that relationship.

Fawning and Flattery Techniques
Using fawning and flattery is one of the most effective ways to manage a narcissist when they’re being difficult. Narcissists delight in anyone who showers them with praise. Appealing to their vanity can help you temporarily pacify them, giving yourself time and space to remove yourself from a problematic situation or get them to behave more positively.

If they are fussy about their appearance, compliment them effusively. Tell them they have a great sense of fashion or that they look attractive. Don’t hold back on praise, even when it seems undeserved. Make them feel valued by asking for their opinion or guidance, even with little things you likely don’t need help with. Fawning and flattery can help the narcissist in your life be more cooperative and less volatile.

While overpraising them might feel unnatural or forced, the goal is to ensure your safety and well-being, not reinforce their harmful behaviors.
Narcissists mask their insecurities with a false sense of superiority. And knowing that they’re seeking validation from others is what one can use to their advantage.

Tactful praise will most likely disarm them and possibly make them vulnerable, which a victim can use to their advantage to escape a situation, says Dr. Leslie Sanders, the Program Director at AToN Center, a Drug and Alcohol Treatment Center.

Appealing to Their Ego
No one has a bigger ego than a narcissist, and knowing when and how to appeal to their ego can help you skillfully gain temporary control over their actions and behavior. It’s crucial not to overplay your hand; try to be subtle and seemingly genuine. For instance, if a situation at work is causing them to lash out at you, prop up their ego by emphasizing their importance to the team or project.

Another way to boost their ego is to ask for their opinions and guidance on even the small stuff. Their inflated sense of self makes them feel not just valued and respected but indispensable in your life. Asking questions like “What would you suggest I do here?” or “How would you handle this challenge?” gives them a sense of control and importance.

Narcissists will typically try to make anyone who opposes them wrong, whereas they’ll befriend someone who agrees with their false sense of grandiosity. By adding to their ego, a narcissist will definitely confide in you in some capacity, which, again, can be leveraged, says Dr. Sanders.

Leveraging Their Insecurities
It might seem at odds with their overly confident personalities, but most narcissists are riddled with insecurities. You can take advantage of these vulnerabilities to control their behavior when worried for your well-being. Pay attention to the things that make them defensive or overly sensitive; these are usually their areas of insecurity.

Using a person’s insecurities against them likely goes against your ethos. It can also cause them long-term psychological harm and even escalate the situation you are trying to manage, especially if the narcissist feels exposed or humiliated. It’s crucial to use this strategy carefully, focusing on protecting yourself rather than maliciously hurting the other person.

While the intention behind this might be self-protection, one should also reflect on moralities that lie within deceitfulness, says Dr. Michelle Dees, a board-certified psychiatrist at Luxury Psychiatry Medical Spa. Ethics are not fixed, and their surroundings change depending on the intent and context involved in manipulating others’ behavior towards us.

For instance, manipulation can be seen as justifiable under the self-defense principle, where there is no other way out than manipulating, even though temporary measures should only apply until the danger subsides.
In certain situations, the narcissist may respond by lashing out. They may retaliate by becoming more hostile or also prey on your insecurities, creating a vicious cycle of negativity that will likely be more harmful to you than them. So, it’s essential to be tactful and focus on de-escalating the situation.

Your goal should be finding ways to navigate the relationship safely, not perpetuating harm. Use this strategy only when necessary to protect yourself or diffuse a dangerous situation.

Creating a False Sense of Control
When a narcissist believes they are in control, you can subtly guide them away from behaviors and actions that may be harmful to you. Narcissists feel a need to dominate people and situations; if they sense they are not in control, they may lash out. Creating a false sense of control doesn’t require relinquishing your power. Frame your ideas and requests as if they’re theirs so they feel like they are in the driver’s seat.

Another approach is to offer limited choices that lead to the same outcome you desire. Presenting options allows them to feel they are making the decision. For example, if you need them to complete a task, you might say, “Would you prefer to handle this project today or tomorrow?” Regardless of their choice, the task gets done within your required timeframe.

You can also weave in other techniques, such as appealing to their ego or fawning over them. When they make a decision beneficial to you, overpraise them; not only will this boost their ego, but it’ll also encourage them to continue making similar decisions that work in your favor.
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Link: https://www.verywellmind.com/how-to-manipulate-a-narcissist-8671825

Thread Level: 4

Whatabout Neddie. You have no issues with Musk interfering on this subject.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:05 am on Dec 20, 2024
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Of course you don’t. Just remember though your guy is bought and paid for

Thread Level: 5

Paraphrasing you: no what about, just pointing out your hypocrisy.

Author: NedoftheHill (44720 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:00 pm on Dec 21, 2024
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I think you've lost track of what "whatabout" means.

A normal whatabout would be, "Sure my guy does it, but so does yours, so no one can ask my guy to stop doing it," ...to which you could reply, "Whatabout my guy?"

But here, I'm specifically denying the accusation (not justifying it), while pointing out your hypocrisy for making a fantasy accusation while supporting the behavior you accuse by your side.

It seems that "whatabout" has become some word you shout when you don't have a real response. It apparently has no meaning for you...just a noise you make when you are confused.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 6

Yes Ned all of your Whatabouts are pointing out hypocrisy.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:14 am on Dec 22, 2024
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The Blob of course is human nature, which always borrows and spends today and f*cks over tomorrow.

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:23 am on Dec 20, 2024
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Elon is helpless against this irresistible force.

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Elon represents part of the "Plutocratic Blob" that gets larger and larger with each multi-trillion

Author: TyroneIrish (20597 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:43 pm on Dec 20, 2024
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dollar Government Tax Break...and J.D. Vance (the tool of an avowed Plutocrat, Peter Theil) stands ready to advance that 'cause'.

That Blob is also known as "Pure GREED".


Thread Level: 4

He has 2 issues. Orange wants a massive tax cut

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:29 am on Dec 20, 2024
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and to meaningfully cut into the deficit it will hurt a lot of folks in his constituency. What happens when the can keeps getting kicked down the road.

Thread Level: 5

Revenue received by the government goes up when there are tax cuts. Gee is it because business does

Author: THEISMANCARR (17217 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 11:53 am on Dec 20, 2024
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better with tax cuts as to individuals?

Thread Level: 6

Actual results paint a different picture...especially when those tax cuts are geared to 1% of the

Author: TyroneIrish (20597 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Dec 20, 2024
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population and corporations that use them for stock buybacks instead of new investments in their businesses.

And our Wealth Gap keeps growing and growing...to the disadvantage of most Americans.


Link: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/the-trump-tax-cuts-led-to-record-low-not-high-revenues-outside-of-a-recession/

Thread Level: 7

Exactly. The first Orange tax cut went almost exclusively to elitist stock buy backs.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:06 pm on Dec 20, 2024
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Indeed, remains to be seen if he can be successful.

Author: NedoftheHill (44720 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:04 am on Dec 20, 2024
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However, at least he will try. Harris wouldn't even try.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Try to do what? Cut off working class benefits while giving a huge tax break to his

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:07 am on Dec 20, 2024
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billionaire pals? That’s what you support.

Thread Level: 7

Rolleyes.

Author: NedoftheHill (44720 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:21 am on Dec 20, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Roll all you want. That is what he will try to do. Entitlement cuts. Big tax cuts for elites.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:28 am on Dec 20, 2024
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The pendulum always swings too far in the opposite direction.

Author: Curly1918 (16477 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:36 am on Dec 20, 2024
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MAGA is the new WOKE.

Thread Level: 6

The real issue isn’t just MAGA and the progies. It’s the fact that we have irresponsibly kicked this

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:59 am on Dec 20, 2024
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can down the road for so long with unreasonable refusals to reform entitlements and to follow a responsible tax policy to help pay for what is needed, that the medicine is now gonna kill lots of patients. I will enjoy blaming all that happens on the Orange watch as it won’t be pretty.

Thread Level: 7

Agreed. And Trump supporters will enjoy blaming Dem spending.

Author: NedoftheHill (44720 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:09 am on Dec 20, 2024
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Not sure that blame game serves any good purpose, though. Both are guilty. Blaming each other will just encourage more divisiveness in the country. We seem to want divisiveness more than a solution to the problem.

Look at you, planning on attacking a guy trying to solve a problem you admit should be solved.


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Except they have spent even more.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:09 am on Dec 20, 2024
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Whatabout that?

Author: NedoftheHill (44720 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:09 am on Dec 22, 2024
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I actually disagree on relative responsibility, but both will continue to overspend as long as the electorate keeps behaving like you are behaving...focused more on the perverse joy of blaming the other side to score political points, than the satisfaction of actually solving the problem for future generations.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Just pointing out your hypocrisy Ned. Right after your own Whatabout no less.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:15 am on Dec 22, 2024
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And as your crowd loves to say, Trump will now be president and he promised to fix it all.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:10 am on Dec 20, 2024
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He may or may not fix it. But, I hope he will try. You hope he won't.

Author: NedoftheHill (44720 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 1:10 am on Dec 22, 2024
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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He didn’t say he would try Neddie. He said he was the only one who could fix it last time around.

Author: Frank L (64745 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:18 am on Dec 22, 2024
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Didn’t get fixed.

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