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Voting for Trump doesn’t necessarily make you a bad person, but you have horrible judgment.

Author: conorlarkin (20748 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:30 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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So much for protecting our nation’s intelligence officers, particularly those who were hired undercover.

Link: Not Ready on Day 1

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris

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"Necessarily". Bwahaha. Such a concession from the man who places himself in God's role of judgment

Author: BaronVonZemo (58844 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:46 am on Feb 6, 2025
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That is wrong to do, did you know?

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Remember he’s literally Hitler

Author: holybull101 (10453 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:38 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Literally!

Author: jimbasil (52300 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:34 am on Feb 6, 2025
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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According to J.D. Vance, that's who DJT thinks he is...

Author: TyroneIrish (19712 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:39 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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No one voted for Musk for anything. Foreigner needs to be shown the door, pronto.

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 9:08 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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sunlight is the best disinfectant. it's as if democracy dies when libs make deals in the dark halls

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:14 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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of a laundering business.

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Under what legal authority does DOGE have to cut off congressional approved funding?

Author: conorlarkin (20748 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:19 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Speaking of sunlight, the taxpayers purse has been handed over to Musk and his privately run team.

How do we know what he and his team are doing with the funds and the data?


The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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i didn’t see this outrage when Obama used the IRS to target GOP donors

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16167 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:52 am on Feb 6, 2025
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Under what legal authority can an executive administration oppose the orders of an elected president

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:46 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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You are fighting democracy.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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So a shadow executive branch can unilaterally shut off congressional approved funds?

Author: conorlarkin (20748 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:15 am on Feb 6, 2025
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Did you graduate from 8th grade Ned?

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Even a President...and especially a President...is bound by the laws of this country. He's just

Author: TyroneIrish (19712 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:03 am on Feb 6, 2025
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issued his 'orders'...he's about to face the actual laws he's trying to avoid. Those who abet him are also bound by those laws...this could be very interesting as the weeks and months unfold.

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BTW, you are such a xenophobe.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:13 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Don't want Musk grabbing power over the entire government and budget.

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 9:23 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Great argument against USAID.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:27 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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I suspect the other bureaucracies will go down fighting as well. They shouldn't be able to fight for their own existence, and yet here we are, they are fighting the results of the election, and so are you.

Why do you hate democracy?


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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There are no “great” arguments to demolish USAID.

Author: conorlarkin (20748 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:40 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/opinion/usaid-spending-trump-musk.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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They control the entire government and budget and have personal data about millions of Americans?

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:30 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Who knew? Again do better.

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No. Why would you ask that question? Weird.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:39 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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No, what’s weird is you equating USAID with DOGE.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:41 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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They are different in 2 very important ways.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:08 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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1) DOGE will only do what the elected president lets it do. USAID will do whatever it wants.

2) DOGE wants to save tax payer dollars. But USAID wants to set up a slush fund for your side to pay its cronies with US taxpayer dollars while promoting a wacko liberal agenda.

So, no, they are not equal.

One is good, and subservient to elected leaders. The other (USAID) is not.


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You are of course correct.

Author: PaND (2624 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:26 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Why would you ever respond to that TDS ridden whacko?

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Good question.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:31 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Untrue and you know it.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:19 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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DOGE is not a constituted agency of the govt. USAID only spends money that has been duly authorized by Congress. Don’t like it. get Congress to change it or eliminate it. Or let an Un constituted so called advisory group just eliminate it illegally by autocratic edict of the executive because they will illegally do what you can’t get Congress legally to do.

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US should take over SpaceX rather than let SpaceX man take over the US.

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Your crowd has said the same and worse about Soros.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:23 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Yup, MAGA ranted about a guy with little access and no government portfolio.

Author: ND521 (9254 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 9:28 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Ranted? Check the search function on our Muskie lovers. Posted on it and his influence constantly.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Whatabout?

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:26 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Only took 3 minutes to complain about your hypocrisy being called out. Do better.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:27 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Maybe I’ll post some of your past ramblings about him.

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Democrats Warn Trump’s Unelected Shadow Government Is Dismantling Their Unelected Shadow Government

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:13 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Link: https://babylonbee.com/news/elon-is-an-unelected-official-warns-government-with-3-million-unelected-officials

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Democrats have proof in full view...MAGAs just have a hackneyed 'meme'...

Author: TyroneIrish (19712 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:19 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Except the current government agencies have been set up according to our laws. Like DOE and USAID.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:19 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Don’t like them, use lawful means to end them, not an unelected Oligarch by fiat and whim.

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But they are trying to nullify the election, aren't they.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:27 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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How are they doing that? And if they are we have laws on how to deal with it. Not whims and fiats

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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of an oligarchic narcissist who paid 290 billion to use them, and has billions in contracts of his own with the govt, some with agencies he’s DOGEing.

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Someone had to step up and protect women. Trump just did. Good judgment.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:04 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Democrats say they are "at war" because of the dismantling of non-democratically accountable bureaucracy, while Trump protected women.




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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Ought not the President first protect the rule of law and US Constitution?

Author: conorlarkin (20748 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:18 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Trump has brazenly and openly violated the rule of law and US Constitution since his inauguration.

But, Ned gives him a free pass because Ned feels such commodities are for suckers and losers, correct?


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/02/05/us/trump-agenda-defying-law.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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And genital mutilations will be stopped.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:22 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Overturning Roe v. Wade doesn't protect women...just ask the leaders of Baron's OB/GYN specialty,

Author: TyroneIrish (19712 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:17 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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ACOG, representing 60,000 physicians, nurses and other health professionals in that field. As for Trans persons, they should still have existing mental and physical care options fully available to them...and when it comes to sports, more careful study and discussion can and should be taken regarding participation.

As expected...horrible judgement on DJT's part...and those who support him.


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$8M for Sri Lankan pronoun lessons. Wow!

Author: jakers (13704 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:36 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Matt Labash as usual has excellent insight.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:20 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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And yet, even with all this tumult, comes the news that Trump, while still the most unpopular president ever, or at least since 1953 when such measures started being taken, has attained his highest favorability rating. Leaving me with some existential questions like: Who am I? Who are half these people I call countrymen? What alternative universe do they reside in, and is there any chance we could make them stay there, then build a wall and make the aliens pay for it? They often remind me of those stories we’d read during the worst of COVID, when patients who had been propagandized to within an inch of their lives after being told by their conspiracy-slingers of choice that it was all some giant hoax, would be in the ICU on respirators, their lungs failing, arguing with their doctors on their deathbeds that surely they don’t have COVID, since it doesn’t even exist.

Link: https://mattlabash.substack.com/p/when-your-country-hits-the-skids

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You might have a point if it were a referendum. But it wasn't. Harris was the other option.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:49 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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If it were Trump or not, you might have a point.

But, it was Trump or Harris, and the choice was very clear for people who don't want to encourage the mutilation of genitalia of children, imprisonment of conservative protestors while allowing liberal protesters to run amok, corrupting the justice and intelligence systems to go after political opponents, among other issues Harris was on the wrong side of.

Perhaps Harris was the right call for people driven by their emotions. But, Trump was the right call for people driven by their intellects.


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You really believe that after watching what this clown has done and is doing in less than a

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:25 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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month? Sheesh. Like she would put some unelected billionaire oligarch goon who makes billions in taxpayer money, who gave the jackass 290 million bucks to worm his way in, and who is subject to no congressional oversight in charge of the agencies of the government. And also give said oligarch goon all of the employees personal information as well as letting him delete agencies that are the province of Congress? And give the oligarch goon all of the payment information for payroll of employees of the government?

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Nothing he's done has changed that. I'll keep an open mind. Of course the election was last November

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 8:48 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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So far, so good, though.

Funny watching people get upset about Musk not being elected, when USAID is totally not responsive to democratically elected leaders. Decides its own spending...refuses to provide documents to Congress...totally unaccountable...until now. Finally it is accountable to democracy, and the Democrats and you go insane.

Keep supporting child genital mutilators. I will continue to oppose them.


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USAID isn’t running the U.S Govt. Musk is. You really saying that what he’s doing hasn’t changed

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:57 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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things? This guy is a govt contractor who paid 290 million to your lord and master to get control of these things. You see no problems with that right?

But yeah, just think of all the “child mutilations” that he has stopped. How many actually last year that now can’t be done?


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Obviously Musk is not running the country. Of course Trump is changing things. Duh. For the better

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:09 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Nothing he has done has changed the good judgment that his voters showed last November.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The hell he isn’t. Orange is too lazy to do it.

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:33 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Heh. Good one.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:40 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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The ripple effect of shutting down USAID will be substantial.

Author: conorlarkin (20748 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:28 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Link: https://www.brookings.edu/articles/what-comes-after-a-usaid-shutdown/

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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One can only hope.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:41 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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When your loved ones start dying of Ebola, maybe you’ll have a different view.

Author: conorlarkin (20748 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:47 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Have you guys released ebola from a lab somewhere? So predictable, but a little overreaction IMO.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 11:15 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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On the record, you think that what he’s allowing Musk to do is for the better? Can’t

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:16 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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wait until the D’s let Soros Jr do it. We can give Soros and his minions all that data when he becomes a “special govt. employee”.

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Biden allowed his underlings to run the country. Trump allows Musk to advise him.

Author: NedoftheHill (44309 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 9:41 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Now that’s a whopper. Musk is advising? Nope, he is illegally dismantling. And Biden’s underlings

Author: Frank L (64029 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:46 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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were legitimately appointed to legitimate govt. agencies and positions, not made up shite.

By the way, I should check if you bitched about Obama apppinting czars. I know I did.


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The American People have spoken. Are you deaf?

Author: Hensou (7959 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:33 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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He’s not dead, just has bad judgement.

Author: Protagonist (1054 Posts - Joined: Oct 21, 2012)

Posted at 11:14 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Nice!

Author: BaronVonZemo (58844 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:47 am on Feb 6, 2025
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He was elected to protect the citizens of this country from all enemies, foreign and domestic...such

Author: TyroneIrish (19712 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 8:46 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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actions as allowing Intelligence operatives names to be released...never mind releasing violent criminals and Seditious Conspiracy Felons long before they served their legally imposed sentences back into society....isn't upholding the oath he took. The American people need to hold him accountable...after all, WE hired him and pay his salary.

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GOAT likes strongmen.

Author: conorlarkin (20748 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:42 pm on Feb 5, 2025
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Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/05/world/europe/usaid-russia-putin.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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