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Breaking News! Ukraine did not start the war with Russia!

Author: Hibakusha (4617 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:34 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Link: https://www.foxnews.com/world/russian-invades-ukraine-largest-europe-attack-wwii?msockid=2fba50e0da5b61f70c925e11dbf3606d

Replies to: Breaking News! Ukraine did not start the war with Russia!


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Why am I and other taxpayers paying for this?

Author: IrishFanFD (428 Posts - Joined: Oct 5, 2018)

Posted at 8:06 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Think Like a Real American Today!

Author: conorlarkin (20790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:45 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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From the article:

I’ve covered the war in Ukraine, visited Russian torture chambers and interviewed Ukrainian children trafficked into Russia by the invaders. If only Trump and his aides had a fraction of the steel of one Ukrainian woman I interviewed in 2022, Alla Kuznietsova, who, even when subjected to electric shocks, beatings with cables and repeated rapes by Russian interrogators, refused to yield to them.

“We are grateful to Americans, but we just ask, please don’t leave us halfway,” she told me then. “Don’t leave us alone.” Yet now Trump has collapsed and seems ready to abandon heroes like her. What we’ve seen in the last 10 days from American officials is appeasement of the most craven kind.


Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/19/opinion/trump-putin-europe.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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False! Ukraine forced an unwilling Russia to invade. Also, Biden.

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:42 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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More buffoonery by the pros. Rubio and his minions get clocks cleaned by the Russian team. Who would

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:29 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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ever think it? When this clown prez loses Ukraine to Putin, it will make his appeasement of the Taliban look like a win.

Link: https://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/47435

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Brace for impact Europe

Author: Curly1918 (16195 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 6:57 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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What is sickening will be the cheers from this generation’s America First crowd as Putin is crushing his neighbors… AGAIN

Link: https://youtu.be/lULSK10LQqA?si=sXsdhOAuOyOvCmH7

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Yeah well their enablers who supported and elected Orange should also take a bow.

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:42 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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The Dems triggered the MAGA revolution

Author: Curly1918 (16195 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 7:09 am on Feb 20, 2025
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Mass illegal immigration
Insane and nonsensical and wasteful and corrupt expansion of government
DEI
Use of judiciary for political purposes
Promotion of trans policies

We were on a freeway to destruction of our natiom


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Right, blame someone else for your poor judgement. That always works.

Author: jimbasil (52343 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 8:45 am on Feb 20, 2025
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“Honest judge, the bartender told me to have two more for the road. I didn’t see that the light was red when I plowed into that school bus loaded with students!”

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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By 2030, most of his voters will deny it. Already going downhill and the real inflation won’t start

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:10 am on Feb 20, 2025
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until the tariffs kick in.

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Sure, you were just forced to vote for an autocrat.

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:32 am on Feb 20, 2025
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3 of those are the same or worse under your guy. Hope it ends up being worth it to you.

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And you were forced to vote for a vegetable and Willie Brown's side piece.

Author: Curly1918 (16195 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:32 am on Feb 20, 2025
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I'm actually please with reversing course on the issues I listed.

And I'm hopeful our legislative and judicial systems will erect guardrails on Orange's worst excesses.


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Nope and didn’t claim I was. I was though able to make an informed choice of the worse of the 2

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:27 am on Feb 20, 2025
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options. I don’t think you were able to do so. Along with his continued assault on our institutions and form of government, he has also just reversed 80 years of stability in Europe. Again hope what you got was all worth it to you.

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Wow, voting by praying against the obvious. Like hoping your house doesn’t burn down after pouring

Author: jimbasil (52343 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:10 am on Feb 20, 2025
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gasoline over it and throwing a lit match onto the roof.

Genius!


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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The same posters who embrace Russia’s right to attack Ukraine…

Author: conorlarkin (20790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:13 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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…. are the same posters who embraced Trump’s narrative that the 2020 election was stolen;

… are the same posters who embraced the narrative that the January 6th insurrection as lawful;

… are the same posters who embraced making Dr. Fauci the culprit for the pandemic;

…. are the same posters who ridiculed vaccinations and social distancing and masks;

… are the same posters who embraced attacks on DEI as a clear and present danger to America;

… are the same posters who embrace racism and authoritarianism;

… are the same posters who traffic in falsehoods because they have fallen prey to orchestrated cyber misinformation campaigns which their brains lack the capacity to scrutinize.

These posters are “marks.” Zero street smarts. Simpletons.


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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Some of what you wrote is just factually false

Author: MarkHarman (7243 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:03 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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- No one is saying January 6 was lawful. Calling it an insurrection is a stretch, though.

- The Great Fauchino lied to Congress and the NIH funded the research that led to the Covid virus that escaped from the lab. He's not directly responsible but shares some blame

- Speaking of the Great Fauchino, thanks to the excellent work of Dr. Harvey Risch and Dr. George Fareed, we now know hydroxychloroquine combined with zinc and azithromycin reduced hospitalizations and deaths 84%, but due to Fauchino's personal medical philosophy of not accepting observational trials as valid, over 500,000 people died who otherwise wouldn't have.

- Masks and social distancing didn't do crap.

- DEI isn't a danger and actually can be helpful, but painting anyone who isn't straight and white as some sort of helpless oppressed victim is garbage.

- I've noticed no one here who "embraces" racism. Eli might like authoritarianism, I'll give you that.


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Trump won

Author: LanceManion (7665 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 7:39 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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So no one can comment on his actions? Good logic.

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:30 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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He’s just stating a fact. Truthfully, you’ve been commenting on his actions even when he

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:33 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Wasn’t President. He lives rent free in your head. It’s pretty sad.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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let’s see, he stole classified documents by the truckload, was found to be a serial sexual assaulter

Author: jimbasil (52343 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:03 am on Feb 20, 2025
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was in front of a camera 24/7, began an insurrection, was convicted of 34 felonies, started his campaign for 2024 in 2021. How is it he wasn’t in the news?

I think maybe he’s lives rent free in your head as cult leader.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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And the rest of us all lost, fool except for a commie former KGB agent.

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:50 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Which posters are embracing it?

Author: PaND (2636 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 5:51 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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And somehow the laptop that 51 “Intelligent” Agents said was Russian disinformation and you

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:21 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Believed didn’t make the list? Neither did “if you get the shot (it’s not a vaccine) you won’t get nor spread COVID? Weird, amirite?

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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And Mr. Exhibit “A” jumps in and identifies himself. Bravo Tampa!

Author: conorlarkin (20790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:29 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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What person in their right mind constantly tries to justify the Presidency of a Convicted Felon,

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:35 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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a Rapist, Serial Assaulter of Women, Multi-time Fraud and Bankruptcy Claimant who was Justifiably Indicted for trying to overthrow our Constitutional Democracy...and on top of all that, Kowtows to our nation's worst enemy?

We have an undeclared Pandemic of Stupidity going on right now.

btw, great choice of video clip...been meaning to use it myself, multiple times.


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Why do you hate Nelson Mandela?

Author: NedoftheHill (44326 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:10 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Clearly, you're not in your right mind, Ned...Mandela had Principles he was willing to die for, and

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:14 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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those Principles were all about finding Justice for Others...not in the same Universe as Donald J. Trump...nor did Mandela engage in what Right Minded People would term, Criminal Behavior.

How and Why did you get so screwed up that you'd even think of supporting someone like Trump?


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Sorry. Thought you said no one in their right mind could justify Presidency of a Convict.

Author: NedoftheHill (44326 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:00 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You equate Apartheid Law to U.S. Law?...who in their right mind would do such a thing? Next thing

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:31 am on Feb 20, 2025
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you'll do is accuse Navalny of having been a "Convict"...is there no bottom to you?

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Sleepy Joe and Mandela go wayyyyyyy back

Author: Frankx (5120 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 9:59 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Who in their right mind could justify a president who lied about being arrested?

Author: NedoftheHill (44326 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:01 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You're so desperate to avoid facing reality that you'd equate an anthill to Everest. DJT is ALL the

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 12:36 am on Feb 20, 2025
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things I listed...and more. Again, no person in their right mind would/should even dream of Donald Trump as President.

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Got shot down over Mombasa in an H-7 by a sling shot

Author: Frankx (5120 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 10:03 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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I would post a response here but they always seem to get taken down and then I get suspended.

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:02 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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So you can just picture a gigantic middle finger here.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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You are not in the old boys club. Get some cats or Irish Wolfhounds

Author: ColeyO (12442 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:15 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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🎤 drop

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 5:14 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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What else would a puppet of Putin would say? He is sounding like the Russian asset you guys

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:13 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Say he is. This post and Chris counting what he thinks are lies have changed my mind. I was close with the Gulf of Mexico post but this one really sold it.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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Finally

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 5:15 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Please, let's stay on important topics, like the Gulf.

Author: NedoftheHill (44326 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 5:12 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Breaking News! US reject Russia's demand, firm on NATO membership for Ukraine.

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:59 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Nato expansion to Ukraine is the reason why the war started.

No nato expansion to Ukraine is the reason why this war will end.


Link: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jan/26/ukraine-and-russia-to-hold-paris-talks-in-latest-effort-to-ease-tensions

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No...Putin's annexation of Crimea is what forced Ukraine to seek NATO membership...his 2022

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:55 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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attack showed why it is VITAL to Ukraine's freedom.

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Totally false. Annexation of Crimea was triggered by Maidan coup, operated by Victoria Nuland

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:09 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Which overthrew legally elected Ukraine president who lean to Russia.

Bucharest Submit 2008 is when Nato declared Ukraine would be accepted as its member one day. Russia made it very clear it is unacceptable if Ukraine join Nato.


Link: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/natos-ukraine-debate-still-haunted-by-bucharest-pledge-2023-07-10/

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The "Revolution of Dignity" took place because of Yanukovych's sell out of Ukraine to Putin, and

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 9:37 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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his over-the-top level of proven corruption. Ukrainians know what Russian rule looks like...they'll never submit to that again.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution_of_Dignity

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Totally false. Early election was already arranged by German/French envoy and agreed by all parties.

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:51 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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EU made it clear: let incoming election's result speak out. But US/Nuland/jack Sullivan can't wait for just a couple of months. Once German/French envoy left Kiev, Nuland operated to let mobs occupy presidential residency. The infamous Nuland's "fuck EU" phone call is the evidence nobody can deny US was behind the coup.

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No one in the EU made the people of Ukraine throw out Yanukovych and his Russian cohorts...

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:35 am on Feb 20, 2025
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They will NEVER accept that rule again...which angers Vladimir Putin...therefore, Ukraine needs to be accepted into NATO for its survival...and Freedom. The evidence is there for all to see. You hate Democracy...Why are you living here?

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Just like Chris, when you lost arguments, you go ass. Pathetic.

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:00 am on Feb 20, 2025
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You can't deny it, Eli...the people of Ukraine needed no encouragement to toss out Yanukovych and

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:31 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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all his Putin sympathizers...then they saw his corruption for themselves, and will NEVER give up their Freedom.

You live here, enjoying your freedom to say whatever you want without fear of being arrested even when it contradicts the values this country was built on...not possible in Russia. Think about that.


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We know “Engrish” is your second language, but please try to do better

Author: Domer From Hell (15865 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:53 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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Do you have US citizenship?

Author: Domer From Hell (15865 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:29 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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Definitely not an ND fan.

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 8:36 am on Feb 20, 2025
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Definitely a Chicom that promotes Russian disinformation. Not surprised that the Trumpers….

Author: Domer From Hell (15865 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:15 am on Feb 20, 2025
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welcomed him into their cult.

We're all born bald baby!
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The thought of him on an ND forum is revolting. The rest no matter their political views are at

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 9:23 am on Feb 20, 2025
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least real ND fans.

Thread Level: 11

Agreed. Eli should be banned permanently

Author: Domer From Hell (15865 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:48 am on Feb 20, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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This should get at least 100 up votes

Author: Quest4twelve (6493 Posts - Joined: Aug 5, 2015)

Posted at 4:44 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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Funny it got down votes. I thought Fox News was biblically sacred.

Author: Hibakusha (4617 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:40 pm on Feb 19, 2025
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