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Who pushes for peace & who wants to continue an unwinnable war?

Author: BaronVonZemo (58941 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:26 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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This is just easy.

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Peace is pursued through strength and principle.

Author: conorlarkin (20790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:55 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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A peace deal where Putin submits to US leverage and pressure is one thing. A peace deal where Putin is the shot caller, where Ukraine is excluded from the conversation is suspect from the jump.

Putin is playing Trump like a fiddle. Why? Because Trump seeks to be in Putin’s good graces. Trump is not strong and bold. He is a coward at his core.

And Trump and Putin are not exactly honorable men. Quite the contrary. Ask yourself who is the honest and reliable witness to the negotiations?

So don’t assume that a peace deal is in the best interests of the United States, merely because the war ends.

What are the long term costs and consequences? Is America’s honor and longstanding reputation as “no better friend” now for sale?


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And that explains why Biden Adm didn’t try for a peace deal.

Author: BaronVonZemo (58941 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 10:32 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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So not having peace under Biden showed just how weak he was is what you are saying..

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:27 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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In fairness, peace through appeasement is for pussies…

Author: Domer From Hell (15865 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:16 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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and that’s what Trump is proposing to Putin. I would be impressed as hell if Trump negotiated from a position of strength. His infatuation with Putin is Bizarre on many levels. You’re a good guy…I know you see this.

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Of course I want him to be harder on this maniac. But this act that certain poster have that Biden

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:31 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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Was a strong President is flat out stupid. Right now, we need peace and to stop sending billions to a worthless cause. I’ll take peace any day of the week.

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Biden was terrific in managing foreign affairs. History will vouch for it.

Author: conorlarkin (20790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:19 am on Feb 21, 2025
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History will remember his as a senile old man who was unfit for office. Then on the way out the

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:37 am on Feb 21, 2025
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door he gave pardons to his family for crimes that he took part in. Oh and the only decisions he made revolved around flavors of ice cream, unelected radicals made the rest for him.

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I want peace too, but it won’t happen if the Ukraine is the only one making concessions

Author: Domer From Hell (15865 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:22 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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Zelensky & EU political elites want to continue this war. That's why they're excluded from Riyadh

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:42 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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negotiation. Riyadh negotiation is about ending the war, about peace, not continuing the war.

Russia is winning. The term of negotiation certainly is in their favor. Ukraine is losing. Zelensky knows the term of negotiation won't be in Ukraine's favor. Thats why he is reluctant to negotiate now. Very simple.


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I am for crushing the rebirth of the Soviet Union in it crib.

Author: Curly1918 (16195 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 4:45 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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We have blinded ourselves to how absolutely sadistically evil Putin's nightmare society really was.

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Yeah, that what we're on the cusp of, a new USSR.

Author: MAS (21331 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:08 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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I have been supporting roughly this outcome for 2 years

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:43 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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But the way this moron president has gone about it is diplomatic malpractice.

Both parties are exhausted. Peace is near. We did not have to insult the Ukrainians, alienate our allies, and praise Putin.


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If Biden or Harris won the election, no doubt you would continue supporting this war till Ukraine

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:53 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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begin winning.

Your using Zelensky's treatment as excuse is laugble. Zelensky started this row at first. He let Bessent who took a long trip by train to get Kiev wait for an hour before meeting him. The reason? Zelensky is sleeping now, Mr Bessent. Zelensky aid told Bessent. WTF.


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Precisely why you’re your favorite word

Author: Frankx (5120 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 7:09 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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Not true because you voted D, never threatened Z’s money spigot,& inspire zero fear in Putin

Author: BaronVonZemo (58941 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:27 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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You and yours not only didn’t ever bother to pursue peace after your incompetence facilitated Putin’s aggression, but you could’t achieve it if you tried.

If peace is achieved, the result will be all because of Trump, and nobody cares that you don’t like how he did it.

Don’t you dare try to horn in on any success on this if it happens. You’d still be signing blank checks.


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Putin wants a mere pause before he resumes. It's a sadistic compulsion.

Author: Curly1918 (16195 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 4:47 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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Indeed. He knows he just needs to wait for another D POTUS to get elected….

Author: BaronVonZemo (58941 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 6:29 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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….like he did the last two times he invaded.

Quit your bitching. You’re just facilitating round 3 for Putin if you get your way.


Appeasement never works.


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The board MSNBC watchers like the war.

Author: PaND (2636 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 4:34 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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Yeah, the libs are now pro-war, anti-tariffs, making fun of the uneducated, defenders of the CIA/FBI

Author: MAS (21331 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:04 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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anti-free speech. It's an amazing transformation. They even resuscitated McCarthyism by labeling anyone who didn't buy the Russia Hoax or support Ukraine in its quixotic effort against Russia, then you were a Russkie-sympathizing pinko. They deserve everything they're having to swallow currently.

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They were so honored to get Dick Cheney's endorsement.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:22 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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Well, Conor and Lyndsey Graham want the wars. 2 peas in a pod.

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:29 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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Lindsey thought we should simultaenously have boots on the ground against Russia, Iran, Syria.

Author: MAS (21331 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:07 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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Probably a few others, too. He never left 2003. As he ages, I expect him to lapse into declarations that Saddam must be removed from power and singing "Bomb, bomb, bomb. Bomb, bomb Iran."

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It’s funny how all of a sudden people like Conor are on the side of Liz Cheney, Lyndsey Graham

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:12 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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And Adam “the crier” Kinzinger. Like Triple F, he’s really a Republican.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 5

Says the guy who has never served, and would sell out his foxhole buddy for a dollar.

Author: conorlarkin (20790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:56 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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I’m not so sure you served either. No way any self respecting Marine acts and talks the way you do.

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:10 pm on Feb 20, 2025
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