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Your new Deputy Director of the FBI

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:15 am on Feb 25, 2025
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Whether you like his politics or not, this should disturb you.

That is, if you actually give a shit about this country.


Link: https://www.spytalk.co/p/the-bongino-bomb?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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You prefer an FBI that abuses FISA, influences US elections and subverts democracy.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:40 am on Feb 25, 2025
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I know that is the Trump propaganda that idiots across the country believe

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:10 am on Feb 25, 2025
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Deny, deflect, defend.

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:30 pm on Feb 25, 2025
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The linked Senate Intelligence Committee Report has been posted more than once, yet you deny its

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 2:33 pm on Feb 25, 2025
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findings and deflect away from them. In short...given the amount of interaction between the Trump Campaign and Russia, the FBI would be Derelict in its duties to not investigate Trump and everyone associated with him.

Once again...Vladimir Putin has committed a great deal of effort and money to get Trump elected and as shown in the Senate Intel Report, Trump is very appreciative....given that Putin wants to destroy our country it should make any American want to get rid of Donald Trump...why do you still support both of them?


Link: https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf

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Reminder -- again -- on their conclusion.

Author: jakers (13739 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 4:21 pm on Feb 25, 2025
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“absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election.”

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Didn't think you were that gullible...guess I was wrong...

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:06 pm on Feb 25, 2025
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Ever heard the term "RICO"? It gained notoriety when used to bring Mafia Bosses, like John Gotti, to justice...no longer could they hide from crimes committed by underlings who were doing their bidding...like Paul Manafort meeting with Konstantin Kilimnik to exchange internal Trump Campaign polling data with that Russian operative...who no doubt knows who Vladimir Putin is....by now, I'm sure you get the picture. And so do the Senators in that Intel Committee...but without a full investigation by a Prosecutor, like Jack Smith, they couldn't say the magic word "Collusion".

Thankfully, the Senators found clear evidence of underlings, like Paul Manafort, committing crimes against the United States, so right-minded citizens can be on notice about what a Presidential Candidate has been up to.



As a side note...you haven't justified your disagreement with my statements on the Abortion issue...and given that it is an important one, I encourage you to re-engage, since no one else seems to want to try.


Link: https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2023/08/what-is-the-rico-act-and-why-was-it-created/

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Keep ignoring this quote:

Author: jakers (13739 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:40 am on Feb 26, 2025
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“absolutely no evidence that then-candidate Donald Trump or his campaign colluded with the Russian government to meddle in the 2016 election.”

And I have no idea what argument you're claiming on the abortion issue. I've been clear that you're full of crap on the Pope's position, and I've been clear on my position.


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I've already posted the rationale for that statement...i.e. They (the Senate Intel Committee) can't

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:15 pm on Feb 26, 2025
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come right out and assert or imply "Collusion" w/o the DOJ making such a claim, which has serious legal implications they aren't chartered to express....all they can do is "Investigate" and "Report" on what they found (see link)...which btw, was substantial evidence of just such behavior...please don't try and tell me or the rest of this forum that Trump's Campaign Manager, Paul Manafort, meeting with a Russian Operative, Konstantin Kilimnik, to provide campaign internal polling data in advance of the 2016 election was not "Colluding"...and note that the 'Volume 5' of that report had a lot more evidence to support that conclusion.

Now as to the Abortion issue...my comments are fully supported with evidence...

>Pope Francis could have ended the debate with a statement that fetal "Personhood" begins at Conception...but he didn't...instead he rightly said it is "Debated". That was a couple of years ago and he hasn't recanted...
>I've also provided the same documentation as a 'Pro-Life' poster, which attempts to minimize the impact of our Pope's statement, yet even that author admits that neither the RCC, nor the "Magisterium" have taught that Personhood begins at Conception.
>While Fetal Personhood is debated, there has been no information given as to the substance of that debate...we can only guess...so, I've done some research and ended up posting data from one of them...an Evolutionary Biologist...who reports that ~60% of fertilized ova NEVER develop to the point of even a Doctor being able to detect the conception, and another 10% end up as a miscarriage...which leaves the RCC in a theological quandary...i.e. how to 'account' for such real world occurrences?...btw, "Limbo" is no longer an option. Therein lies the Debate.
>Not to be forgotten in this higher level debate over Abortion, is the fact that there are other citizens in the U.S. who practice different faiths...or none at all...and they believe that Personhood begins either at several weeks into a pregnancy (e.g. "Quickening"), or at Birth.
>>>So your and others' claim that Personhood begins at Conception is not true. Once you accept that, we can move on and deal reasonably with the Abortion issue.

>Then there's the fact that our RCC Catechism allows for the "Killing" of true Persons...Innocent as well as Sinful in what are called "Just Wars" IF certain conditions are present...which serves as a reference point for decision making in Abortion cases. (see "Prudential Judgement")

If you disagree with what I said...and I have zero problem with that...just make sure you provide more than just your opinion...in order to get to the truth, we all need evidence...i.e. reasonable and responsible documentation.

Before turning it over to you, let me give you a glimpse of where I see this heading...in case you haven't seen my many earlier posts. This is not a perfect world...we may and should want to make it much better, but we need to deal with our imperfections right now...in this case, women are being forced and coerced into life changing, and threatening, pregnancies they NEVER WANTED...therefore, since those biological attacks on their reproductive systems initially involves a "Potential Person", there is an opportunity, through a process used by our RCC, called "Prudential Judgement" to allow such women to judge for themselves whether or not to carry the pregnancy to term...AND...for all people...Men and Women...to dramatically increase efforts to achieve 1) Availability of Contraceptives...2) Sex & Sexuality Education...and 3) Programs that make it much more viable for women to carry pregnancies to term.

Bottom Line...Women need Justice...not government intrusion into their lives by people who could not possibly fairly judge the causes of their pregnancies...or the disruption to their lives...current and future.


Link: https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C18-7-1/ALDE_00013657/#:~:text=Included%20within%20the%20scope%20of,the%20issuance%20and%20enforcement%20of

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Was that compiled by people with preemptive pardons for unspecified crimes?

Author: iairishcheeks (26757 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:55 pm on Feb 25, 2025
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Was that post produced under the influence?

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:08 pm on Feb 25, 2025
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Umm - did you see Zuckerberg on Rogan, or pay any attention when Musk bought Twitter?

Author: LanceManion (7665 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)

Posted at 12:28 pm on Feb 25, 2025
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This isn't a suspicion any more, it's documented fact.

Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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Here you go. It's even from CNN, just for you.

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:15 am on Feb 25, 2025
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Link: https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/17/politics/fisa-court-slams-fbi-conduct/index.html

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And NPR

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:21 am on Feb 25, 2025
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Link: https://www.npr.org/2020/03/31/824510255/justice-department-ig-finds-widespread-problems-with-fbis-fisa-applications

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And the WSJ, with it's big words...

Author: TampaIrish (11370 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:22 am on Feb 25, 2025
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Link: https://www.wsj.com/articles/fbi-surveillance-fisa-court-rudolph-contreras-a7f69cd6

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Thread Level: 2

Give us a name. Who woulld you want at that position?

Author: ELP (9328 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 8:26 am on Feb 25, 2025
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Chris is correct and I believe Patel promised to do so at his confirmation hearings. The position

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 10:59 am on Feb 25, 2025
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runs the day to day activities of the Bureau and is extremely important. This guy knows zero about those things which is likely why they chose him.

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A career FBI special agent. Like every other time.

Author: Chris94 (36499 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:14 am on Feb 25, 2025
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What career guy? Give me a name. Let's vet this name together.

Author: ELP (9328 Posts - Joined: Oct 18, 2020)

Posted at 2:15 pm on Feb 25, 2025
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Is there any DJT appointment that you approve? That's the premise we should start with.

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remember, Chris has a vast network of insiders.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan (16173 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:28 am on Feb 26, 2025
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No matter how this is viewed by the Trumpers, it makes perfect sense…

Author: Domer From Hell (15865 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:13 pm on Feb 25, 2025
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And hate Bongino all you want, at least he has law enforcement experience. Patel has zero experience. Just a weird appointment, IMO.

We're all born bald baby!
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Like J. Edgar Hoover?

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 10:40 am on Feb 25, 2025
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Can't wait for him to get started.

Author: PaND (2636 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 8:19 am on Feb 25, 2025
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The FBI leadership dug their own hole.

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Bookmark

Author: conorlarkin (20790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:22 am on Feb 25, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Of course, thank you.

Author: PaND (2636 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 8:27 am on Feb 25, 2025
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Bookmark…. And beyond

Author: Frankx (5120 Posts - Joined: Aug 22, 2017)

Posted at 8:58 am on Feb 25, 2025
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