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If Trump cuts a deal that guarantees Ukrainian security for mineral rights who is most upset?

Author: Curly1918 (16195 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:05 am on Feb 26, 2025
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Our Dems... who can't bear the notion of any Trump success?

Our far right... who are emotionally rooting for Putin?

Putin... whose Ukrainian gambit was a completely abject failure?


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Thread Level: 2

#1 - it wouldn’t be a success by any definition. #2 it’s not the far right, it’s all republicans -

Author: jimbasil (52343 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 11:38 am on Feb 26, 2025
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#3 - Putin will never cease his push into Ukraine.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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If he really is committed to it, it’s workable. He wouldn’t be though.

Author: Frank L (64094 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:11 am on Feb 26, 2025
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Dems can see that Putin is a threat to the world order...and that he owns Trump...why throw stones

Author: TyroneIrish (19772 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 10:52 am on Feb 26, 2025
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at them over this issue?

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Trump just wants to recoup the US taxpayers' $ spent in Ukraine. If you pay tax, you'd be happy.

Author: Eli (9482 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:57 am on Feb 26, 2025
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Those minerals were explored in Soviet era, i.e. long time ago. Its a big challenge in engineering and technology to mine them. Ukrainian would otherwise have mined them long time ago. With US getting involved, mining would be easier. It's a win-win for both Ukrainian and US.

Maybe China is upset. China has expertise of engineering and technology in rare earth mining. If Ukraine needs help, china would be the best candidate as a partner in mining.


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Make Russia pay. They were the aggressors.

Author: conorlarkin (20790 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:08 pm on Feb 26, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Please explain how that would ever happen.

Author: Hensou (8017 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:53 pm on Feb 26, 2025
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Russian assets/money held in allied and US banks could be seized and allocated to Ukraine rebuild

Author: Domer From Hell (15865 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:45 pm on Feb 26, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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My past tax payments are a sunk fund. If this alleviates my tax bill going forward AND inhibits...

Author: Curly1918 (16195 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 10:44 am on Feb 26, 2025
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further Putin aggression I'm all in.

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And there it is. Propping up his homeland. Fucking Chicom traitor

Author: Domer From Hell (15865 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:34 am on Feb 26, 2025
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Eli's wording has always struck me more as Russian ex-pat than Chinese

Author: wrdomerson (2255 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:18 am on Feb 26, 2025
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Not really to defend him on this, but he has a point about the amount of experience China has with mining rare earth minerals.

China would be pissed if the US were to have a different avenue to get to those types of minerals than through their supply. I'm good with them being pissed, it reduces their leverage in that area.

I would also prefer that Russia paid some form of reparations to Ukraine if this is resolved, and that the Ukraine would then send a portion of that money to the US and allies that helped with munitions to keep Ukraine alive. Not enough to keep them unable to rebuild though, but some type of recoupment for the munitions would be nice.

Edit to add: He also answered the question of the original post, by noting it would be China that would be the most upset.


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