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Trump sees geopolitics as just negotiating a real estate deal

Curly1918 18363 posts Joined: Aug 30, 2017

Posted1:35 pm on Apr 14, 2025

His big negotiator is a real estate lawyer with zero geopolitical experience.

He's already fallen on his face in Russia and in the Middle East.

He's as useless as was Antony Blinken.

Trump should have brought back Mike Pompeo. He was tough and had huge onions.... but sadly he has, an independent mind.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Witkoff

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Somehow I just don’t see as a negotiator. A bully, yes. He has no nuances.

jimbasil 55037 posts 5:44 pm on Apr 14, 2025

He’s a bumbling fuckwad who has been lucky his whole life.

Pompeo is a buffoon and another who just never understood nuance, he was in it for what he could get out of it. At least Blinken worked as a true negotiator.

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk

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So, Mr Policies, your man is fucking up absolutely everything?

ND521 9881 posts 2:24 pm on Apr 14, 2025

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God may not care who wins, but His mother does

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  Ok, Mr. Personalties... how can anyone fuck up more than your senile "leader" (sic) did?
  
  Curly1918 OP18363 posts 3:13 pm on Apr 14, 2025
  
  When someone votes on the basis of policies one is choosing between two different imperfect sets and weighs them in a balance.
  
  When one votes on personalities one does not give a shit that they actually do as long as one likes them,,, or prefers them to their opponent..
  
  You hate Trump and were willing to live with open borders, DEI, insane spending, gender fluidity, over regulation, woke cancel culture, etc., etc.
  
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    Huh? Are you effin’ kidding? This guy is tanking the whole nation. Biden is on Mt. Rushmore compared
    
    Frank L 64990 posts 3:33 pm on Apr 14, 2025
    
    to him.
    
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      We have a extremely different notion of what is good for the country when it comes to policies.
      
      Curly1918 OP18363 posts 4:25 pm on Apr 14, 2025
      
      I saw the Biden administration's policies as absolutely ruinous.
      
      I support 70% of what the Republicans are trying to do.
      
      Swear all you want... I feel my perspective is reasonable.
      
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        So waddaya think of Oranges tariffs, revenge tactics, deficit spending, incompetent appointments,
        
        Frank L 64990 posts 5:19 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        his public health disgrace, his Medicaid cuts to extend rich people tax breaks, his economic uncertainty and his ineptness roiling the bond and stock markets, his Ukraine policy, Putin appeasement, and isolationism? You think any of THAT is good policy?
        
        You should be ashamed. While you complain and snivel about your own guy all the time, you also blame the other side for what you and your fellow idjits did. Sad.
        
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        Ignore laws; ruin economy, public health & foreign relations. You & the dummies are batting 0.000.
        
        ND521 9881 posts 4:49 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        God may not care who wins, but His mother does
        
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      Sure, Don getting 'them' - bad browns & pathetic trans teens - was worth tanking the entire country.
      
      ND521 9881 posts 4:00 pm on Apr 14, 2025
      
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      God may not care who wins, but His mother does
      
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    YoY spending & deficit are up. Stop lying to yourself to protect your prejudices.
    
    ND521 9881 posts 3:20 pm on Apr 14, 2025
    
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    God may not care who wins, but His mother does
    
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      YTD spending is all under Nancy's legislation. There are almost no Dem policies that I don't loathe.
      
      Curly1918 OP18363 posts 3:31 pm on Apr 14, 2025
      
      Whereas you probably can't/won't name a single Dem/progressive/woke policy that you do not support.
      
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        Trump losses following W & Vice playbook. Complete lack of regs led to financial meltdown.
        
        ND521 9881 posts 3:44 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        God may not care who wins, but His mother does
        
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        Even more than that, a complete crisis in confidence that these bozos are competent is destroying
        
        Frank L 64990 posts 3:48 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        the markets.
        
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        5*
        
        ND521 9881 posts 3:59 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        God may not care who wins, but His mother does
        
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        Your boy’s policies that you worship are estimated to add 20 trillion to the debt in 10 years. Wake
        
        Frank L 64990 posts 3:40 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        the eff up. And quit yer bitchin. The GOP controls all 3 branches of govt. You should love all of these policy disasters.
        
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And he announced today that he is going to ignore the 9-0 Supreme Court decision

Chris94 39153 posts 2:10 pm on Apr 14, 2025

MAGA world must be so proud.

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  It's not that simple.
  
  Hensou 11287 posts 2:33 pm on Apr 14, 2025
  
  Abrego is an illegal alien and a citizen of El Salvador. He is not a US Citizen.
  
  Trump has time to facilitate the return.
  
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    9-0 is pretty simple, actually. Ignoring the Supreme Court should result in impeachment.
    
    Chris94 39153 posts 2:56 pm on Apr 14, 2025
    
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      How many times did old Joe ignore the Court with the student loan thing?
      
      PaND 3361 posts 3:31 pm on Apr 14, 2025
      
      Don't recall you calling for impeachment.
      
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      Do you really think a 3rd impeachment is going to make a difference? The first 2 worked out great.
      
      TampaIrish 12736 posts 3:06 pm on Apr 14, 2025
      
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      I hold the record for most deleted posts. +139. Must protect the Helpers!
      
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        They keep grasping at straws and strawmen.
        
        PaND 3361 posts 3:15 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        Every day is new emergency to the Constitution and the Republic.
        
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        DJT got impeached for a "Quid Pro Quo", and an attempted overthrow of a free and fair election...
        
        TyroneIrish 25776 posts 7:34 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        ...definitely qualified him for such charges. His Ambassador the the EU, Gordon Sondland, admitted the 'QPQ' under oath in the first Impeachment...and participants in the Willard Hotel War Room on Jan. 5th pled Guilty to "Seditious Conspiracy" in the second. Hardly 'Straws' and 'Straw Men'.
        
        Trump has been a criminal all his adult life.
        
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        I get the hatred, I really do. I hated Obama and Biden as much as they hate Trump but I
        
        TampaIrish 12736 posts 3:42 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        Chose to ignore them when they were on TV and didn’t go in search of news on them. Trump makes their lives absolutely miserable and it’s like they feed off of that feeling. It’s pretty fucking strange.
        I hold the record for most deleted posts. +139. Must protect the Helpers!
        
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        It's non-stop from the same people with the same tripe every day.
        
        PaND 3361 posts 3:53 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        They make their own lives miserable.
        
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        Repetitive, rigid and mean spirited.
        
        Hensou 11287 posts 6:54 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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      He has time to facilitate the return.
      
      Hensou 11287 posts 3:02 pm on Apr 14, 2025
      
      If the Leader where Abrego is actually a citizen won't release him, that complicates things.
      
      It's a mess, but it will all get worked out.
      
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        If he doesn't - if he ignores the SCOTUS - he should be impeached. Agreed?
        
        Chris94 39153 posts 3:06 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        He is not a US citizen and not in the US. President has no authority.
        
        PaND 3361 posts 3:13 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        Trump has to "facilitate" the return. He does not currently have to "effectuate" the return.
        
        Hensou 11287 posts 3:42 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        Trump can ask for Abrego's return. El Salvador can say they will not deport their own citizen to a country where he is an illegal alien.
        
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        It seems simple enough for most people to understand.
        
        PaND 3361 posts 3:51 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        Depends on how it plays out.
        
        Hensou 11287 posts 3:11 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        If El Salvador refuses to release him because he is their citizen, all bets are off.
        Can they deport him to the USA where he is an illegal alien?
        
        Let it play out. All kinds of variables are possible, including impeachment.
        
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        If Trump asked, he’d be returned in 10 seconds. You know this.
        
        Chris94 39153 posts 7:33 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to to mine.
        
        Hensou 11287 posts 7:45 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        Don’t make pronouncements for me.
        
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  What decision was that?
  
  wrdomerson 2367 posts 2:20 pm on Apr 14, 2025
  
  I haven't been paying attention recently, so I'm curious what you're talking about.
  
  If it was a 9-0 decision, I don't see how he can ignore it.
  
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    If you're serious here's a link. [Bulwark]
    
    ND521 9881 posts 2:26 pm on Apr 14, 2025
    
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    Link: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-is-john-roberts-thinking
    
    God may not care who wins, but His mother does
    
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      I don't have a subscription to the Bulwark
      
      wrdomerson 2367 posts 2:51 pm on Apr 14, 2025
      
      Can you give me something more? The portion I was able to read said Trump claimed the 9-0 decision was in his favor, but that seems to be not the case?
      
      What was the ruling about and how is Trump supposed to uphold the ruling that was made?
      
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        .
        
        PaND 3361 posts 3:11 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        Here you go
        
        Chris94 39153 posts 2:58 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        Link: https://prospect.org/justice/2025-04-14-will-trump-obey-supreme-court/
        
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        Thank you
        
        wrdomerson 2367 posts 5:11 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        Unfortunately, facilitating it does not mean it will happen, but I would hope that they make an actual effort to do so rather than slow playing it. From the article you posted it is likely he's already undergoing torture if what was alleged in the previous court order is true.
        
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        Perhaps use Google
        
        ND521 9881 posts 2:57 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        God may not care who wins, but His mother does
        
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        Or this.
        
        ND521 9881 posts 2:57 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
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        Link: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/supreme-court-trump-facilitate-return-kilmar-abr
        
        God may not care who wins, but His mother does
        
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And this is an epiphany?

Frank L 64990 posts 1:52 pm on Apr 14, 2025

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  In neither case. Both Blinken and Witkoff are exactly who we knew they were.
  
  Curly1918 OP18363 posts 2:18 pm on Apr 14, 2025
  
  Instead of having diplomats who lead their Presidents we only get ones who cater to them.
  
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    Witkoff couldn’t shine Blinken’s shoes. Man is a professional diplomat. This guy is a real estate
    
    Frank L 64990 posts 2:22 pm on Apr 14, 2025
    
    dick like the Mango Man.
    
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      I agree on Witkoff, but Blinken is a career globalist who never strongly advocated for our country.
      
      Curly1918 OP18363 posts 3:17 pm on Apr 14, 2025
      
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        Not a fan of Antony. Or Pompey for that matter. See Afghan disgraceful deal. But they are at least
        
        Frank L 64990 posts 3:37 pm on Apr 14, 2025
        
        experienced at FP. This arsehole is a buffoon.
        
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