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Trump sees geopolitics as just negotiating a real estate deal

Author: Curly1918 (16436 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 1:35 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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His big negotiator is a real estate lawyer with zero geopolitical experience.

He's already fallen on his face in Russia and in the Middle East.

He's as useless as was Antony Blinken.

Trump should have brought back Mike Pompeo. He was tough and had huge onions.... but sadly he has, an independent mind.


Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Witkoff

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Thread Level: 2

Somehow I just don’t see as a negotiator. A bully, yes. He has no nuances.

Author: jimbasil (52631 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 5:44 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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He’s a bumbling fuckwad who has been lucky his whole life.

Pompeo is a buffoon and another who just never understood nuance, he was in it for what he could get out of it. At least Blinken worked as a true negotiator.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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So, Mr Policies, your man is fucking up absolutely everything?

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:24 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Ok, Mr. Personalties... how can anyone fuck up more than your senile "leader" (sic) did?

Author: Curly1918 (16436 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 3:13 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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When someone votes on the basis of policies one is choosing between two different imperfect sets and weighs them in a balance.

When one votes on personalities one does not give a shit that they actually do as long as one likes them,,, or prefers them to their opponent..

You hate Trump and were willing to live with open borders, DEI, insane spending, gender fluidity, over regulation, woke cancel culture, etc., etc.


Thread Level: 4

Huh? Are you effin’ kidding? This guy is tanking the whole nation. Biden is on Mt. Rushmore compared

Author: Frank L (64660 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:33 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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to him.

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We have a extremely different notion of what is good for the country when it comes to policies.

Author: Curly1918 (16436 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 4:25 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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I saw the Biden administration's policies as absolutely ruinous.

I support 70% of what the Republicans are trying to do.

Swear all you want... I feel my perspective is reasonable.


Thread Level: 6

So waddaya think of Oranges tariffs, revenge tactics, deficit spending, incompetent appointments,

Author: Frank L (64660 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 5:19 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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his public health disgrace, his Medicaid cuts to extend rich people tax breaks, his economic uncertainty and his ineptness roiling the bond and stock markets, his Ukraine policy, Putin appeasement, and isolationism? You think any of THAT is good policy?

You should be ashamed. While you complain and snivel about your own guy all the time, you also blame the other side for what you and your fellow idjits did. Sad.


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Ignore laws; ruin economy, public health & foreign relations. You & the dummies are batting 0.000.

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 4:49 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Sure, Don getting 'them' - bad browns & pathetic trans teens - was worth tanking the entire country.

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 4:00 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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YoY spending & deficit are up. Stop lying to yourself to protect your prejudices.

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:20 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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YTD spending is all under Nancy's legislation. There are almost no Dem policies that I don't loathe.

Author: Curly1918 (16436 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 3:31 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Whereas you probably can't/won't name a single Dem/progressive/woke policy that you do not support.

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Trump losses following W & Vice playbook. Complete lack of regs led to financial meltdown.

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:44 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Even more than that, a complete crisis in confidence that these bozos are competent is destroying

Author: Frank L (64660 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:48 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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the markets.

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5*

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 3:59 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Your boy’s policies that you worship are estimated to add 20 trillion to the debt in 10 years. Wake

Author: Frank L (64660 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:40 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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the eff up. And quit yer bitchin. The GOP controls all 3 branches of govt. You should love all of these policy disasters.

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And he announced today that he is going to ignore the 9-0 Supreme Court decision

Author: Chris94 (36750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:10 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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MAGA world must be so proud.

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It's not that simple.

Author: Hensou (8157 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 2:33 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Abrego is an illegal alien and a citizen of El Salvador. He is not a US Citizen.

Trump has time to facilitate the return.


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9-0 is pretty simple, actually. Ignoring the Supreme Court should result in impeachment.

Author: Chris94 (36750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:56 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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How many times did old Joe ignore the Court with the student loan thing?

Author: PaND (2717 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 3:31 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Don't recall you calling for impeachment.

Thread Level: 5

Do you really think a 3rd impeachment is going to make a difference? The first 2 worked out great.

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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They keep grasping at straws and strawmen.

Author: PaND (2717 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 3:15 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Every day is new emergency to the Constitution and the Republic.

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DJT got impeached for a "Quid Pro Quo", and an attempted overthrow of a free and fair election...

Author: TyroneIrish (20389 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 7:34 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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...definitely qualified him for such charges. His Ambassador the the EU, Gordon Sondland, admitted the 'QPQ' under oath in the first Impeachment...and participants in the Willard Hotel War Room on Jan. 5th pled Guilty to "Seditious Conspiracy" in the second. Hardly 'Straws' and 'Straw Men'.

Trump has been a criminal all his adult life.


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I get the hatred, I really do. I hated Obama and Biden as much as they hate Trump but I

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:42 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Chose to ignore them when they were on TV and didn’t go in search of news on them. Trump makes their lives absolutely miserable and it’s like they feed off of that feeling. It’s pretty fucking strange.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 8

It's non-stop from the same people with the same tripe every day.

Author: PaND (2717 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 3:53 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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They make their own lives miserable.

Thread Level: 9

Repetitive, rigid and mean spirited.

Author: Hensou (8157 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 6:54 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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He has time to facilitate the return.

Author: Hensou (8157 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:02 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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If the Leader where Abrego is actually a citizen won't release him, that complicates things.

It's a mess, but it will all get worked out.


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If he doesn't - if he ignores the SCOTUS - he should be impeached. Agreed?

Author: Chris94 (36750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:06 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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He is not a US citizen and not in the US. President has no authority.

Author: PaND (2717 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 3:13 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Trump has to "facilitate" the return. He does not currently have to "effectuate" the return.

Author: Hensou (8157 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:42 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Trump can ask for Abrego's return. El Salvador can say they will not deport their own citizen to a country where he is an illegal alien.

Thread Level: 9

It seems simple enough for most people to understand.

Author: PaND (2717 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 3:51 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Depends on how it plays out.

Author: Hensou (8157 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 3:11 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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If El Salvador refuses to release him because he is their citizen, all bets are off.
Can they deport him to the USA where he is an illegal alien?

Let it play out. All kinds of variables are possible, including impeachment.


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If Trump asked, he’d be returned in 10 seconds. You know this.

Author: Chris94 (36750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:33 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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You are entitled to your opinion. You are not entitled to to mine.

Author: Hensou (8157 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 7:45 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Don’t make pronouncements for me.

Thread Level: 3

What decision was that?

Author: wrdomerson (2262 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:20 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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I haven't been paying attention recently, so I'm curious what you're talking about.

If it was a 9-0 decision, I don't see how he can ignore it.


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If you're serious here's a link. [Bulwark]

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:26 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Link: https://www.thebulwark.com/p/what-is-john-roberts-thinking

God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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I don't have a subscription to the Bulwark

Author: wrdomerson (2262 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:51 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Can you give me something more? The portion I was able to read said Trump claimed the 9-0 decision was in his favor, but that seems to be not the case?

What was the ruling about and how is Trump supposed to uphold the ruling that was made?


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Author: PaND (2717 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 3:11 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Here you go

Author: Chris94 (36750 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:58 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Link: https://prospect.org/justice/2025-04-14-will-trump-obey-supreme-court/

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Thank you

Author: wrdomerson (2262 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:11 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Unfortunately, facilitating it does not mean it will happen, but I would hope that they make an actual effort to do so rather than slow playing it. From the article you posted it is likely he's already undergoing torture if what was alleged in the previous court order is true.

Thread Level: 6

Perhaps use Google

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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Or this.

Author: ND521 (9406 Posts - Joined: May 10, 2016)

Posted at 2:57 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Link: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/supreme-court-trump-facilitate-return-kilmar-abr

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God may not care who wins, but His mother does
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And this is an epiphany?

Author: Frank L (64660 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 1:52 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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In neither case. Both Blinken and Witkoff are exactly who we knew they were.

Author: Curly1918 (16436 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 2:18 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Instead of having diplomats who lead their Presidents we only get ones who cater to them.

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Witkoff couldn’t shine Blinken’s shoes. Man is a professional diplomat. This guy is a real estate

Author: Frank L (64660 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:22 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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dick like the Mango Man.

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I agree on Witkoff, but Blinken is a career globalist who never strongly advocated for our country.

Author: Curly1918 (16436 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 3:17 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Not a fan of Antony. Or Pompey for that matter. See Afghan disgraceful deal. But they are at least

Author: Frank L (64660 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:37 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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experienced at FP. This arsehole is a buffoon.

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