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Harvard rejects Trump's Demands. Let's Go Crimson!

Author: Hibakusha (4668 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:03 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Federal officials said Harvard must enact “merit-based reform” in hiring and admissions and report international students who broke rules, among other steps. Harvard called the demands unlawful.

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I have zero idea why taxpayers are sending $ to any institution with many billions in endowments

Author: Curly1918 (16435 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)

Posted at 9:58 am on Apr 15, 2025
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I was a little gratified to see that ND made the top 10.

Link: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/the-short-list-college/articles/universities-with-the-biggest-endowments

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In other words you are "Clueless" as to how America has developed such a well-earned

Author: TyroneIrish (20384 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:27 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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reputation for advanced technology. As Frank's article notes...
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Nearly every modern medical treatment can be traced to research funded by the National Institutes of Health: from over-the-counter and prescription medications that treat high cholesterol and pain to protection from infectious diseases such as polio and smallpox.

The remarkable successes of the decades-old partnership between biomedical research institutions and the federal government are so intertwined with daily life that it’s easy to take them for granted.
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Those tax dollars help produce not only new breakthroughs, but also careers for talented scientists who then can go on to create private entities that push further advancements. Think of the grants as what the truly are..."Seed Money" for Public Sector advancements.


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The attached may help you a bit.

Author: Frank L (64656 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 2:49 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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Link: https://theconversation.com/cuts-to-science-research-funding-cut-american-lives-short-federal-support-is-essential-for-medical-breakthroughs-252150

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It figures you are cool with antisemitism.

Author: PaND (2715 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 8:08 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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You don't know shit about it and I'm afraid you never will.

Author: Hibakusha (4668 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:35 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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im. afraid he does and scram with that lib crap

Author: cubsfanin16 (5498 Posts - Joined: Aug 25, 2016)

Posted at 9:42 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Read more. Think more.

Author: conorlarkin (21001 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:19 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Link: https://www.harvard.edu/research-funding/wp-content/uploads/sites/16/2025/04/Harvard-Response-2025-04-14.pdf

The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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That, right there, is the fatal flaw of all MAGAs, like PaND...a complete lack of Critical Thinking

Author: TyroneIrish (20384 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 3:30 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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Impossible request

Author: Domer From Hell (16292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:50 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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Were it remedial math students that made the decision?

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:39 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Maybe basic civics

Author: Chris94 (36747 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:38 am on Apr 15, 2025
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I keep forgetting the part of the constitution where private unis have a right to federal funds.

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:55 am on Apr 15, 2025
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But I do believe Jewish students have a right to safety and Asian and white students should be treated equally for acceptance.

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This has jack shit to do with antisemitism

Author: Chris94 (36747 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:16 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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It is Trump intimidating universities. All dictators - all of them - do this.

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You don't hear the voices of your own students?

Author: Hensou (8157 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 11:54 am on Apr 16, 2025
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Link: https://tulanehullabaloo.com/65669/news/student-testifies-before-congress-voicing-antisemitism-issues-on-campus/

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Right, it's just a coincidence the universities that are being targeted.

Author: iairishcheeks (27109 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:54 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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It's just coincidence that the "Joint Task Force to Combat Anti-Semitism" is targeting universities that had pro-hamas protests with students threatening Jewish students. Surely it's about something else. Fascism probably.

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Always in defense of your dear leader. Definitely not a Trumper

Author: Domer From Hell (16292 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 8:06 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
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Exactly. Dude cavorts with anti semites himself.

Author: Frank L (64656 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 3:52 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

Author: NedoftheHill (44632 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 7:07 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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The courts have decided previously that the Federal Government can put conditions on the money it gives to the States. That's why we have a 21 year old national drinking age...the states wanted the federal highway money, and Congress wanted 21 to be the drinking age. Do X, and we will give you money for Y. Now, this is a fairly well known case that I haven't read in decades, so if I got something wrong about it, Frank will be here soon to tell you that I never went to law school. :-)

Granted, there is some contrary case law since then, so I'm not sure where we stand now on this. I'm not sure where the line is drawn now, or if there is even a clear line anymore. That's why it will be interesting to watch.

Issue: Can the government offer money to a party (state government, state university, private university, etc.), and put limits on what they do to accept the cash? I'm guessing the limit will have to have some nexus to the reason the money is given. But, different courts will have different positions on how tight the connection has to be. Is highway construction money really tied to a drinking age? Seems kind of a loose connection to me, to put it generously.

In today's hyper-political environment, where people can't think clearly when it comes to Trump (e.g., they often condemn things Trump does when they support the same things done by others...no objectivity...who would've thought the left would become anti-environmental terrorists...that suddenly they'd be concerned about inflation, etc., etc., etc.) ... but given that hyper-politicality, I would expect Obama appointees to be very tight with that nexus when Trump is in office, and very loose when the next Democrat is in office, which will create a lot of bad law.


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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Trump will punish Harvard; it is his path.

Author: Hibakusha (4668 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:37 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Hopefully they will prevail.

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I would rather (1) Harvard endorse equality & anti-racism, (2) US stop giving away so much $$$.

Author: NedoftheHill (44632 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 10:26 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Is it really a bad thing to punish racism?...by no longer giving tax dollars to the richest racist university in the country?

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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H A R .... H A R ... H A R with a V ... VAR ... VAR ... VAR with a D .... spells HARVARD ... RAH!

Author: conorlarkin (21001 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:29 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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The American Dream belongs to all of us. — Kamala Harris
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Should merit be considered when accepting students or a new employee or should

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:11 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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It be based on DEI principles?

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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I would agree if the Trump was held to the same demand.

Author: Hibakusha (4668 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:19 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Private churches aren't held to DEI principles. Why is a private college?

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Trump was given 1 million by his father he has turned that into at least 3,5 billion. I think he

Author: THEISMANCARR (17199 Posts - Joined: Aug 10, 2007)

Posted at 3:59 am on Apr 15, 2025
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passed the merit test.

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False. Or as you would call it - FAKE NEWS. Here’s a more accurate summary

Author: jimbasil (52631 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 10:13 am on Apr 15, 2025
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At the heart of President Donald Trump’s success story is this idea: He took a small amount of money – in the form of a loan from his father, Fred – and turned it into billions of dollars.

“My whole life really has been a ‘no’ and I fought through it,” Trump told a crowd in New Hampshire way back in October 2015. “It has not been easy for me, it has not been easy for me. And you know I started off in Brooklyn, my father gave me a small loan of a million dollars.”


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While the idea of Trump portraying himself as some sort of rags-to-riches story was always laughable – his father was a man of considerable means and a $1 million loan is not exactly chump change – it convinced lots and lots of people that Trump was like them. Or, more accurately, what they aspired to be. He was – and is – for many, the living embodiment of the American dream.

Which is why this story published by The New York Times on Tuesday night, which details a series of tax evasions that Trump and his father used over the years is so devastating. The piece is long and hugely detailed, but its most devastating lines – to the idea of the President as, essentially, a self-made man – are these:

“By age 3, Mr. Trump was earning $200,000 a year in today’s dollars from his father’s empire. He was a millionaire by age 8. By the time he was 17, his father had given him part ownership of a 52-unit apartment building. Soon after Mr. Trump graduated from college, he was receiving the equivalent of $1 million a year from his father. The money increased with the years, to more than $5 million annually in his 40s and 50s.”

And remember that $1 million loan Trump talked so much about on the campaign trail? The Times reports that the total loan by Fred Trump to his son, Donald, was actually $60.7 million or – and brace yourself here – $140 million in today’s money. (The total amount of money Trump received from his father’s holdings is estimated at more than $400 million by the Times).


Link: Not a Cult

Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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Do churches get federal money?

Author: PaND (2715 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 8:08 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Yes, they are tax free.

Author: Hibakusha (4668 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:15 pm on Apr 15, 2025
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DEI principles should not be a factor in any hiring or admittance process. It should always be the

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:28 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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best person for the position. He should be following the same demand as he is pushing.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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So long as there are posts supporting Trump's attacks on DEI, I'll keep posting this Jon Stewart

Author: TyroneIrish (20384 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:40 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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analysis of what their objective is...




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Agree, but you know that merit has no merit in the White House.

Author: Hibakusha (4668 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:36 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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And unfortunately, it’s not only Trump. Lots of people have different expectations

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:50 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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For him but not their party.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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There are many businesses that don't follow the ban on DEI. A lot of jobs are offered

Author: Hibakusha (4668 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:31 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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to someone because their uncle works there, they go to the same church, they are a friend of a friend, and on and on.

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I don’t see what you listed as DEI. I see that as nepotism, still wrong, especially if the person

Author: TampaIrish (11648 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 6:53 pm on Apr 14, 2025
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Isn’t qualified for the job but it’s different.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
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