"NATO is good only if it's a real defensive alliance, not the US and a bunch of junior partner". WOW
Well said, Rubio. Thank you, Rubio.
Just walk away from this negotiation thing. This is Biden's war, not Trump's war.
Link: https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1915118047267901851
Replies to: "NATO is good only if it's a real defensive alliance, not the US and a bunch of junior partner". WOW
Ok… should the US also drop all the sanctions and any tariffs on the Putin regime?
Maybe we should also offfer Putin another Lend Lease program to help rebuild the Soviet military so they can resist the Euro Nazis?
Thank God Rubio wasn’t at Normandy. He’d sell out Allied positions to Hitler.
Rubio has the integrity of an alley cat.
That doesn't follow at all. He wants NATO to prepare to fight. How do you get from there to opposite
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From the guy who backs China over the US.
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Conor pointed out your cult leader's weak hand.
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Back China? No. Recognize that China is much smarter than Trump? Yes.
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No. You back China on the trade war....you're a traitor. TDS over country.
Aren’t you the guy who agreed with DJT in Helsinki?
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Yes. China is far more clever than Trump.
Trump’s tariff nonsense has been strictly performative, that Trump “is a tough guy, fighting for us.”
No plan, no substance, no commitment, no consistency.
In contrast, China plans and strategizes, albeit with more political flexibility than us, as there are no checks on power. But, they are smart.
Trump isn’t. His tariffs have proven to be disastrous. The adults had to rescue the child from himself.
No. You said you chose the Chinese side in the trade war cuz you hate Trump. Spin away, traitor.
We can all see it.
TDS is real.
Welcome back, Baron! Sorry, there was nothing traitorous about Conor’s post…
He mentioned that the Chinese are smarter than Trump…fact. The tariffs didn’t work…fact.
Eli is a traitor. He’s the one that deserves that classification, but you already knew that.
Rubio & conor are two different partisan sides. Would you give Rubio the same benefit of the doubt?
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Nope. Rubio is a hypocrite. Conor is not.
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No. He mentioned that as cover now, after the fact. He was quite succinct
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Trump already lost. A few T-bond sales by an ally dropped the Don.
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Again. Do you realize it when you make false conclusions?
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The U.S. and its vassal states. Vassals pay tribute I believe is the point.
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Brookings Institution 2019 report.
This is a very perplexing thread. Why is it bad for NATO members contribute same % to defense as US?
What am I missing. This is an honest question.
Is it just the tough love that is provoking them to do this? Obviously, being the nice parent just encouraged freeloading. Is this just an opportunity to pile on Eli and Trump? Or, is there a substantive problem that the responders here have with provoking NATO to step up their ability to fight the Russians?
What’s so perplexing?
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Link: Who pays what into NATO
The link shows that Trump's provoking them is working. That's why this is perplexing.
I guess you are saying they are finally stepping up, and therefore Rubio should start being nicer. Even though those are just increased pledges in response to Trump. Germany still has to have a super-majority in the Bundestag to meet their pledge, and there is no evidence they can do that.
You don’t think maybe with Putin at their doorstep they’ve changed priorities?
The timeline suggests that and not DJT.
You don’t think the increase in Euro defense spending has more to do with Russian aggression?
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Btw Ned, it appears that Zelensky has no interest in peace. He repeatedly scuttles negotiations as
they get close to a deal.
The TDS'ers will of course back Zelensky (they fly the Ukrainian flag in their yards and have stickers on their cars rather than the American flag),
It's pretty clear that Zelensky has a personal interest in keeping the war going - selfish gain or unquenchable vendetta - whatever.
But I really feel that we simply need to withdraw military support completely. We can still provide every bit as much as Obama/Biden did in the Crimean War with the same blankets and comfort food.
It's unwinnable. There will be more deaths overall if we continue to keep the killing going. It's a never ending money sink. And it's an endless money hole that we cannot afford.
Hmmm... so Trump's last Secretary of State was a Zelensky puppet?
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Link: https://x.com/i/status/1915067818510356847
In fairness, there are several factors to consider here.
Until there is a final agreement, it pays for Ukraine to act tough and act as though they don't need a settlement. It is typical negotiational posturing. If they act like they want it, then Russia will demand more. Zelensky needs to make Putin think it was a hard decision for him, otherwise Putin will push for more.
Also, we need to consider what "getting close" means. If it means surrendering territory he thinks he might be able to retain if he remains tough for another year, then he might not consider such an agreement "getting close." Plus, the agreement must be reached by Ukraine and Russia, or it won't last. It is not our agreement to impose. Last time we imposed an agreement, we assured we would defend them in return for them giving their nukes to Russia, and that didn't turn out too well for Ukraine. Putin might just wait until we have a weaker president to do this again.
As to our aid...that is up to us, of course.
Weaker president? It doesn’t get much weaker with what we have now…
Trump kowtows to Putin. Trump promised to end the war with 24 hours of taking office-weak as fuck. Trump instructed the US UN ambassador to vote with Russia, N Korea, Iran, and China-weak as fuck. Trump is going to lift sanctions on Russia.- weak as fuck. Trump has forsaken our allies in favor of Russia- total pussy move.
Sorry, we have a gaping vagina in the oval.
You sound a lot like Eli. The war would stop if Russia withdraws. Pretty simple
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he'll never be as rich nor have as much power nor fame as he does while the war is ongoing.
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I hope that's not true, but his behavior does suggest it more and more.
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It's the same disconnect he has about recipricol tariffs. "If Trump does, it bad!".
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That's kind of what it seems like.
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We also deploy resources to the Pacific
The percentages devoted to Europe are not starkly different.
Last I noticed, the Pacific was a vast ocean with no NATO members to carry their fair share....
....the fact that our % in Europe equals the % devoted to the vast territory of the Pacific where our greatest enemy grows ever more aggressive is proof in itself that the NATO allies in Europe are not carrying their load.
I don't expect much from Montenegro, but Germany?! You have to be a major Globalist and apologist not to acknowledge Ned's point.
It's pure TDS, like Tyrone loving food dyes.
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The average Trump supporter is stupid. You reminded me half of them are stupider than that.
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you’re just as much of an ass as Rubio. In fact, you’re both trumps ass.
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This biologically impossible.
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Little Marco is a Putin cocksucker too. What a disgrace
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That guy sold his soul.
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Never had one to sell.
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"I'd rather have no NATO than the current NATO". No, you sold your soul to neocon.
I’m sorry Eli, but the Americans are talking here
Go find a Russian ND site. They’ll love your shit there.
Ummm...conor is in this thread also. Is there a Chinese ND site?
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Does that include illegal immigrants who have committed crimes?
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I’m sorry Chris. I hate playing gotcha. But I hate dishonest discussion more.
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I have no idea what you are talking about and i don’t care.
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At least try to proof read your drivel before posting.
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You need a remedial English course. Your gibberish is embarrassing.
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You even don't have a soul. "Putin is more reactive than proactive"
Out of curiosity, do you think Putin has a soul? Do you think he is a Christian?
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He is the only world leader who attended Easter Sunday service.
If you count Australia prime minister as a world leader too, Putin is one of only 2 world leaders who attended this past Easter Sunday service. Putin did it every year and also on Christmas. Trump's Easter prayer service was in WH, not in church. So it doesn't count.
Link: https://x.com/SprinterObserve/status/1647354310265536514
That settles it…He’s a fucking saint. He’s forgiven for the millions of Russian and …
Ukrainian deaths that he’s responsible for.
So you think that makes him a Christian?
Someone who is supposed to emulate Christ?
You are sick puppy.