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Boy things sure have changed. Trump is now evil for doing what Biden wanted to do in

Author: TampaIrish (11831 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:49 am on Dec 17, 2025
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This video.

Link: https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1996308495105196037?s=61

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.

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Thread Level: 2

It also seems Trump doesn’t want regime change. He wants to restore the current regime in Venezuela.

Author: Kalc (274 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:55 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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The one Venezuelans voted for.

Maybe Dems are upset that Trump is restoring democracy at home and abroad, and is one of the few politicians bold enough to not only recognize stolen elections, but to point them out and do something about it.


Thread Level: 3

Maduro is an awful cretin. But regime-change wars tend to go haywire.

Author: Chris94 (37823 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:27 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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This is being led by Rubio, who thinks it is a step toward the real goal, Havana.

Just like he thought the war in Iraq in 2003 was a step toward the real goal, Tehran.


Thread Level: 4

So, continuing Uk/Russia War in hopes of triggering regime change in Russia is "totally different"?

Author: BaronVonZemo (62106 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 4:07 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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Because that is really the only hope for victory for Ukraine.

And the options to replace Putin at this point after all of his culling of subordinates are likely to be the same or worse.


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What Ukraine war are you talking about?

Author: Chris94 (37823 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 5:01 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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Because there was never any goal of regime change in Russia.

Please don't fill the board with utter fucking nonsense.


Thread Level: 6

No need for anger. But I agree, the claim was nonsense.

Author: BaronVonZemo (62106 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:29 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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When those of us questioned the rationale for unending US funding of a war with no hope of success (we wanted to push an unwilling Zelensky into trying for a compromise deal at the time),

those who wanted to continue funding Ukraine without limits or oversight argued that hardship pressure within Russia had a good chance of causing regime change in Russia even if victory was otherwise not possible. It was a claim voiced here and in the MSM.

It was absurd. But it seems it is only viewed as absurd by some when going in one direction.


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Thread Level: 7

I don’t recall anyone here that thought regime change was an option…

Author: Domer From Hell (17409 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:35 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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When it comes to Russia. I do believe that helping Ukraine is worthwhile, though.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 8

Baron compares the U.S joining Europe to keep Ukraine's hopes for Democracy Alive while Hoping

Author: TyroneIrish (22894 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:01 am on Dec 18, 2025
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for a Regime Change in Russia, with us actually Starting a War with Venezuela to Effect a Regime Change....he can't stop Making Stuff Up...he's like a Walking, Talking "Babylon Bee".

There was NEVER a strategy to aid Ukraine with the goal of Dislodging Putin...just Pure Nonsense from BVZ.


Thread Level: 8

Here is an example…(read the whole thread too)

Author: BaronVonZemo (62106 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)

Posted at 11:49 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=60877

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Thread Level: 9

I’ll check it out tomorrow night: Gotta get some rest

Author: Domer From Hell (17409 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:44 am on Dec 18, 2025
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We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 6

Good luck with that...he'll continue to make up anything he wants...

Author: TyroneIrish (22894 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 6:38 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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I must have missed the part where he said regime change by going to war.

Author: jimbasil (53723 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)

Posted at 12:08 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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It really is like you have been posting daily but we know you took a little time away to regroup.
Maybe that didn't work out all that well. Try again.


Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
Thread Level: 2

This all had jack shit to do with drugs

Author: Chris94 (37823 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:58 am on Dec 17, 2025
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Trump has it in his diseased mind that Maduro has to go.

So he is going to make up stuff that his brain-dead followers will go along with. Drugs! Sure, Venezuela is not a major drug supplier to the US. So what! MAGA won’t care.

We’re going to war, as soon as tonight.


Thread Level: 3

The U.S. needs Heavy (Sour) Crude Oil...badly...and DJT aims to "Take It" from the largest source on

Author: TyroneIrish (22894 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 11:44 am on Dec 17, 2025
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the planet.

Thread Level: 3

This is a classic example of TDS.

Author: iairishcheeks (28855 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:08 am on Dec 17, 2025
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Everyone rational, including former you, has thought for some time that Maduro needs to go. What changed your opinion? Trump wants it!

Link: https://forum.uhnd.com/forum/index.php?action=display&forumid=2&msgid=525704

Thread Level: 4

Everyone thought Saddam had to go too

Author: Chris94 (37823 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:54 am on Dec 17, 2025
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I was opposed to that war and I am opposed to this one.

All sorts of Bush defenders said that Clinton wanted Saddam gone too - so it was partially his fault! Which was nonsense then, just as this Biden-did-it-too bullshit is nonsense now.


Thread Level: 5

I also think we should stay out of other countries business for the most part.

Author: iairishcheeks (28855 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 12:58 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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But, if we're targeting drug trafficking, Mexico is the place to start along with political pressure on China.

Thread Level: 6

Agreed.

Author: NedoftheHill (45702 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 4:00 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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If DJT were serious about stopping drug trafficking, he'd have immediately authorized high-tech

Author: TyroneIrish (22894 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 1:11 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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drive through drug (e.g. Fentanyl) scanners at all our border checkpoints...some are still sitting in warehouses, while production of additional machines has been halted. It's the CBP's #1 choice for interdicting drug trafficking.

Note that Trump recently pardoned a convicted drug trafficker responsible for over 400 tons of drugs crossing our border. How does one Square That Circle? Answer: You can't...

The Venezuela campaign is all about Oil.


Thread Level: 7

Lets be clear: Fentanyl does not come through the Caribbean

Author: Chris94 (37823 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 2:03 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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Link: https://www.theatlantic.com/national-security/archive/2025/09/fentanyl-trump-venezuela-caribbean-boats/684373/

Thread Level: 8

Which is why this whole scheme is a ruse to get oil.

Author: TyroneIrish (22894 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)

Posted at 4:41 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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Thread Level: 5

Are you consistently opposed to regime change when a Republican is in office?

Author: Hensou (9919 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 12:02 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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Thread Level: 6

I'm consistently opposed to unnecessary wars. Unlike you, I don't care who is in office.

Author: Chris94 (37823 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 1:38 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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Thread Level: 7

False, stupid assumption. I'm not a fan of a war with Venezuela.

Author: Hensou (9919 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)

Posted at 1:57 pm on Dec 17, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

Ok. If that makes you feel better. But he is doing what Biden said in the video and you’re panties

Author: TampaIrish (11831 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:02 am on Dec 17, 2025
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Are bunched about it. I don’t like it, the same as I hated sending “free weapons” to a corrupt leader. But listening to you guys cry about this while cheering on other wars is comical. Maybe, just maybe, you can sit one of these out because you wind up looking foolish.

I identify as the poster with the most suspensions in UHND history.
Thread Level: 2

Everything is politicized by the press, they rarely do any diligence before the stories go out.

Author: PaND (3088 Posts - Joined: Dec 4, 2022)

Posted at 10:16 am on Dec 17, 2025
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Thread Level: 3

msm/dnc - public enemy #1

Author: und67 (7017 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:20 am on Dec 17, 2025
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msm, dnc, antifa, blm: trying to kill america.

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