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Obama is a good example of why the framers DID fear the power of the federal govt and enacted

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:45 pm on Jan 8, 2016
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the Bill of Rights.

Congress won't give you the authority to give legal status to illegal aliens, just do it by executive fiat.

Congress won't expand your authority to regulate carbon emission, do it by EPA regs.

Congress won't pass gun control measures, do it by executive fiat. By the way, I have no problem with the measures, just how they were enacted.

Don't like a law you are sworn to faithfully uphold, use your discretion not to enforce it.

Of course none of this really happened. It's all just a vast right wing conspiracy says the Big Dog, Bill Clinton.


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Soetoro exemplifies why the NBC clause was added to the qualifications for POTUS. Now we

Author: LTNDFAN (10640 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:28 pm on Jan 10, 2016
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see the results of not following the law of the land.

Thank you to all of our American heroes, past & present, of the USMC, Army, AF, Navy, & Coast Guard.
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Glad to see our friends on the right are continuing their perfect record of overreaction

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 10:44 pm on Jan 8, 2016
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Holding steady at 100%.

Minor, essentially irrelevant change in gun regulations? The constitution is destroyed!


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Wouldn't want to disappoint. If it were just the guns it would be one thing.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 11:12 pm on Jan 8, 2016
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Just part of a larger pattern of a largely lawless president.

Ideology is king with this guy. Whatever it takes. What goes around comes around though. A Donald Trump like populist prez could wield that power in even a worse way.

I promise not to say you are overreacting if that happens.


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Crucial to this nonsense argument is the idea that the other two branches...

Author: Chris94 (36755 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 11:54 pm on Jan 8, 2016
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...of government are simply too weak or too cowardly to respond to all this purported executive branch overreach. Why does the GOP congress just let this happen?!

While all sorts of conspiracy theories help the GOP hardcore explain the timidity of Boehner and McConnell and the rest of the congressional leadership, I'd like to remind you that the simplest explanation is usually correct: maybe they know that while they can complain politically, in constitutional terms, what Obama is doing is just fine. They know there is nothin illegal. they stoke the fires among the idiot masses to win the political argument, but they have no constitutional legs to stand on.

Overreaction is the bread and butter of the idiot.


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That is a child's analysis. You will change your tune if Trump gets elected.

Author: NedoftheHill (44670 Posts - Joined: Jun 29, 2011)

Posted at 3:24 pm on Jan 9, 2016
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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If Trump is elected, we will be in another depression and WW III in 12 months. Blowhard dumb ideas

Author: NDinTN (6546 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 3:51 pm on Jan 10, 2016
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Based on what other than your hatred of anyone who is not supported by CPUSA and DSA.

Author: LTNDFAN (10640 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:25 pm on Jan 10, 2016
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Thank you to all of our American heroes, past & present, of the USMC, Army, AF, Navy, & Coast Guard.
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The simple answer IS almost always right. And that is quite easy here.

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 12:12 am on Jan 9, 2016
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It has nothing to do with the blatant unconstitutionality of what Barry is doing.

It has everything to do with what the R's in Congress would have to do to stop it; that being shut down the government including lots of important stuff that they would be blamed for. They are unwilling to pay that political price. Their feckless spinelessness in no way excuses what Obama has done.

But it's laughable to suggest that they don't do anything because they think it's constitutional. They don't do it for self preservation. His highness knows that and continues. And so it goes.


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Changing the argument I see

Author: LanceHarbor (14266 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 9:25 pm on Jan 8, 2016
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have you said the same for other Presidents?

Author: LanceHarbor (14266 Posts - Original UHND Member)

Posted at 7:54 pm on Jan 8, 2016
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Did any of them hold town meetings mentioning the fear of Americans of distant authority....

Author: Frank L (64679 Posts - Joined: Sep 20, 2007)

Posted at 7:59 pm on Jan 8, 2016
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and equating it to conspiracy theorists?

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