Real Priest —- Preach Brother!
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So it's your position people who successfully broke into our country should face no consequences
Ty has already said as much. I will never understand this type of "logic."
The thread/article is about an Archbishop reaching out to prisoners, as Jesus would do.
For whatever reason, the MAGA posters can’t get past the issue of immigration, seemingly stuck on the notion that an unlawful immigrant is undeserving of compassion, humane treatment, and access to faith.
The main issue is the lack of honesty on your part and those in your camp.
I actually don't agree with the alligator alley encampment, but here's the thing: this administration could put them up in Hiltons with room service and you would still object, because you and most on your side believe that everyone short of serial killers who wants to come to the United States should be allowed in. The archbishop is clearly in this camp. He thinks anyone who wants to come here is entitled to come and then be offered many things once they arrive. It would be much more honest if you and he just argued that these people shouldn't be detained in the first place because they're entitled to stay here and move about freely, without government interference. That's your real objection, not alligator alley.
Wrong again, and of course, irrelevant to the thread -- which is about a priest -- a righteous one.
Re immigration, I believe in the rule of law and due process. Anyone who supports Trump's agenda does not.
I also believe in human dignity and fairness. I believe that the overwhelming of undocumented immigrants are decent, talented, hard working folks who are a central contributor to the American economy.
Unlike you and so many other posters in the Trump camp, my viewpoints are not grounded in hate and fear.
If you believed in the rule of law, you would've been appalled at the Biden Administration's refusal
to enforce immigration laws properly. You don't believe in immigration restrictions, except in a tiny amount of cases. In general, you believe that anyone who makes it here should have a right to remain. Since you understand that this position once again places you among the 20% of voters on an 80/20 issue, you will attempt to make the issue about Alligator Alley rather than address the real issue.
You and the Priest should go and live among the poor masses and help them.
Instead you hide behind your TDS in your ivory tower. Follow the lead of Mother Theresa.
Given your total lack of concern for the Bishop's concerted effort to meet the faith needs of his
flock...you have zero standing on this issue...and it begs the question...what have you done to provide aid to immigrants?
When does he go to the native countries of the migrants and pray and demand change so that they
don't have to flee their homes? How is the United States and Trump the villain in this? What other countries are demonized for expelling those who enter illegally? Name some.
"For I was a stranger and you welcomed me."
Jesus smiles upon Archbishop Wenski as an example of a true disciple.
You voted for cruelty.
Link: https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/10/alligator-alcatraz-ice-trump-detention-facility-deportation-florida-desantis/
"Suffer the little children to come unto me. Unless they look Mexican. Then deport their asses.”
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So Christ only loves you if you live in America?
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Christ loves those who come to America. Tired, poor, huddled masses, etc.
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The drug smugglers, gun runners, gangs and human traffickers too?
He loves Mexicans who stay in Mexico too.
Yes. Jesus would serve communion to all of the above + child molesters and killers.
Like me, Jesus never gives up on the sinners.
Communion isn’t only for Oakmont members.
Hensou/Aragoto/GOAT is sounding more and more like a modern day Pharisee...he simply doesn't get the
meaning of Christianity.
That’s not your call.
One is supposed to be in a state of grace to receive communion.
Your Oakmont Country Club comment is
pure snark. Silly and pathetic.
"Guidelines for the Distribution of Holy Communion to the Incarcerated"...someone please see to it
that Hensou/Aragoto/GOAT gets properly educated on the Catholic doctrine.
...from the attached Diocese of Santa Fe statement...
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The basic principle is that one should be a Catholic and in the state of grace and properly prepared to receive the Eucharist. Receiving the Eucharist is not a basic right of inmates but rather follows the norms of the Catholic Church.
The Eucharistic Minister should not refuse the Sacrament to an inmate who attends a Communion service or asks for Holy Communion and comes forward if the Eucharist Minister has duly expressed in his/her invitation the solemnity of the Eucharist, the need to be of the Catholic faith and sorrow for any sins. The presumption should be that those who receive the Eucharist, approach in good faith and are properly disposed. We must be prudent and careful not to offend.
If inmates who are not Catholic attend the service, it might be appropriate to explain briefly, that those who come forward should profess Catholic faith that the Eucharist is the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. Receiving the sacrament is a profession of this Catholic faith. One must have true sorrow for sin.
It may be prudent to have an officer present.
Inmates have a right to receive the Eucharist in the hand or on the tongue. It is important that they consume the Eucharist immediately.
Holy Communion is to be administered under the form of the host only. Never is the chalice to be offered to the incarcerated.
Lay ministers should be carefully trained so that a problem does not occur in the implementation of these Guidelines. They should also be aware of the sensitive nature of prison ministry.
The problem of gangs adds another dimension to this ministry. At times, gangs put pressure on inmates not to attend services. Some inmates ignore these pressures and have not suffered from their courageous actions. In general the prison administration should assist the chaplain so that those inmates who honestly desire to attend services are able to do so.
Neither the prison administration nor the inmate population should determine policy regarding the sacraments. These are matters of conscience. Religious freedom must be respected and protected.
Ideally the cooperation of the inmates, the administration and those who minister should lead to a respectful and peaceful implementation of these Guidelines. The minister must have prudence and a pastoral sense.
Because of the mobility of those incarcerated and the decreasing number of services offered to other Christians in institutions, the following statement is recommended for every distribution of Holy Communion:
The reception of Holy Communion is a very sacred action. It is receiving the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. Those who receive the Eucharist should be baptized Christians, sharing the faith of the Catholic Church, who are sorry for their sins and who receive Holy Communion for their spiritual nourishment and for a deeper share in the life of Jesus Christ.
The incarcerated should be given special pastoral concern. Their freedom is restricted. Ministry to them should be generous, prudent, and compassionate.
These Guidelines are a practical and pastoral application of the principals given by the Code of Canon Law of the Catholic Church, especially #844, and the Directory for the Application of Norms and Principles on Ecumenism, exp #122-136.
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Link: https://archdiosf.org/guidelines-for-the-distribution-of-holy-communion-to-the-incarcerated
This is not an endorsement of illegal immigration.
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Love when Dems bring out the Bible verse. Here's one for you. Jeremiah 1:5
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How many times has he gone to Somalia?
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None,since it's outside his gated community
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That would not get any publicity, and would actually help people, so never.
Where do they dig up these idiots.
Our Immigration System is the result of laws passed by Congress, and based on our Constitution...DJT
is operating under his own set of 'rules...which explains why it was so difficult for the Bishop to conduct his ministry.
You might want to bookmark the attached document for future reference when discussing Immigration.
Link: https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/how-united-states-immigration-system-works-fact-sheet/
The Bishop's homily of Hope will be fulfilled.
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