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The case for withdrawing from NATO. Makes some points worth considering.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46464 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 2:12 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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E.g., we can always come to the aid of Europe, but current membership in this dated, anti-Soviet treaty organization encourages Europe not to defend itself, and instead to just be a dependent of the US, while judging us and denying us access as if we are not members.

I'm not arguing for this position...yet. But, there are some valid points to this position that at least merit discussion.


Link: Withdrawal is not isolationism; it is the maneuver required to win in the generations of war ahead.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

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Do you understand that we are all in a global economy and cannot survive without it...we not only

Author: TyroneIrish  (24113 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:19 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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need important/rare minerals from other nations...but alliances to hold in check enemies who would otherwise run roughshod over us without them. We are strong, but not invulnerable...as the current situation in the Strait of Hormuz shows all too clearly.

There have been "America First" advocates throughout our history...thank heaven we've also had intelligent leaders to keep them at bay.


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None of that has anything to do with the article. Read it.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46464 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:24 pm on Apr 5, 2026
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Also note that our NATO allies are not obligated to protect us if we are attacked in the Pacific or the Middle East...anywhere not in the north Atlantic. Your point about us being strong but not invulnerable supports the point of the article I linked.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Just more tommyrot from you MAGAnuts.

Author: jimbasil  (54365 Posts - Joined: Nov 15, 2007)
Posted at 3:59 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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Jack, he is a banker
and Jane, she is a clerk
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You undoubtedly did not read the link.

Author: MarkHarman  (7770 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 4:57 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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I'm going to guess you don't actually know whether the author is a MAGA guy or not.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46464 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 4:42 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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absolutely zero reason for us to have military bases in NATO countries.

Author: WestCoastIrishFan  (16908 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:24 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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NATO still exists! Who knew and why?

Author: Curly1918  (17651 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 3:12 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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The Euros don’t want to fight the only real threat to them in Europe and don’t want to help us fight a terrorist regime that haz been killing Americans for 50 years. Let them enjoy their quaint cultural traditions in peace and forget about them.

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No it doesn’t. It’s all nonsense

Author: Domer From Hell  (17965 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:21 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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We're all born bald baby!
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And yet the article makes good points. But...

Author: NedoftheHill  (46464 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 4:32 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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...I wouldn't expect someone who still thinks the Soviets are our enemies to take anything other than a pro-NATO position.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Yep. Russia is no threat and we definitely should abandon our allies. Resoundingly stupid.

Author: Domer From Hell  (17965 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 5:00 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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We're all born bald baby!
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I didn't mention Russia. So, yeah, your post is stupid.

Author: NedoftheHill  (46464 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:24 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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But you supported my point. You have yet to get over the Soviets.

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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Soviets = Russia today. Your “word salad” remarks are ineffective with me…

Author: Domer From Hell  (17965 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 5:49 pm on Apr 4, 2026
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If you don’t see similarities between Russia and the Cold War Soviet Union, you’re either blind or dumb. Take a second and absorb my superior intellect. You continually post stupid shit. I’m sure you’re a nice enough guy…at least that’s what Baron said, but I question your mental acuity.

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We're all born bald baby!

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