Tonight's speech is going to be an abomination
When I first heard that there was going to be a presidential address tonight, I assumed it was going to be about the war. That's why presidents address the nation - for important things.
No, it is apparently going to be about the 2020 election. He is laying the groundwork to interfere in 2028. MAGA will lap it up like the morons they are.
It is going to be an abomination.
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Two years ago, “We had transgender for everybody”
He says that all the time. One of his big catch phrases.
Two years ago everybody had to be transgender, I guess. I must have missed that.
Was that the worst thing in his speech?
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I’d say the lies in the attempt to discredit our electoral processes and Constitution
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What was the worst lie he told?
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I'll leave "abomination" to the partisans. But it will surely be "boring."
These national address speeches are definitely not his strong suit. I may listen for a couple minutes, just to see if any surprises are coming.
It will be dishonest and desperate.
Excerpts:
But ahead of this year’s midterms, Mr. Trump is setting the stage to undermine the confidence of the American people in our elections. He has packed his administration with election deniers and hired an acting director of national intelligence with zero national security experience and a history of abusing his position to target political opponents. The F.B.I. director, Kash Patel, has made his career chasing the president’s conspiracy theories, most recently with the devotion of massive resources to a sham investigation in Georgia.
Both leaders will reportedly join Thursday night’s address. But under this administration, their agencies have gutted elements intended to identify, assess and counter foreign threats to U.S. elections, including the Foreign Malign Influence Center at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Foreign Influence Task Force at the F.B.I. Last week, Mr. Trump fired the remaining members of the bipartisan Election Assistance Commission, which was created to help states fairly administer elections. Without these institutions, and without principled leadership to fight for the integrity of their agencies and for the truth, our intelligence community stands precariously exposed to the president’s whims.
As a result, there are a number of ways he can muddy the waters by abusing the powers of the presidency. He’s done it before.
First, he may misrepresent what classified intelligence actually says. Last year, his administration invoked the Alien Enemies Act to defend deporting undocumented Venezuelan immigrants without due process. To justify the use of this centuries-old authority, the president claimed that classified intelligence showed that the Venezuelan government was directing the actions of the Tren de Aragua gang. A now declassified assessmenthas revealed that most of America’s intelligence agencies believed such classified intelligence was “not credible.”
Another tactic Mr. Trump might use would be to present a scrap of raw, unverified reporting as if it were proven truth. He or his acting director of national intelligence, Bill Pulte, could, say, declassify an unsubstantiated report that includes an explosive allegation from a human source about rigged elections. The reality is that raw intelligence collection is full of things that aren’t true. Sources are sometimes unreliable — we learned that in spades after the disastrous invasion of Iraq in 2003. Reliable intelligence analysis fuses hundreds of different sources of information with expertise to produce something we can validate and trust.
Finally, if Mr. Trump declassifies intelligence about the 2020 election, it is nearly certain he will be cherry-picking bits and pieces that make his falsehoods look true. The findings of the 2020 assessment by the U.S. intelligence community have been declassified, but the basis for its findings has not.
I have read the most detailed version of that assessment, and the declassified findings are fully consistent with the classified material, which was based on exceptionally sensitive, high-value, high-confidence intelligence. The government has a legal obligation to share critical information with the House intelligence committee, and in nearly six years it has provided nothing that would call these findings into question.
Mr. Trump may attempt other tricks to mislead the public about their democracy on Thursday. The American people should know that our elections are strong and secure because of the quiet and dignified work of thousands of patriotic Americans in the intelligence community, in state and local election offices and in polling places themselves. We all can be confident that they will continue to speak truth to power and perform their duties without fear or favor.
Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/16/opinion/trump-speech-election-denial-voting.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share
To each their own. I'm going with boring. I'm not as terrified of events as you are, though.
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What if Trump sends armed troops or agents to seize ballot boxes in November?
That is, if Trump follows the Autocracy playbook, invents a “security breach” and sends in his troops and goons to take command of the vote count, will you continue to roll over and play dead?
Lol. He’d be smarter using the govt to falsely charge his political opponent and convict him.
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Are you saying Trump said he would do that?
Just because Obama allowed the New Black Panthers to intimidate voters at polling places doesn't mean that Trump will do anything like that. But, I didn't listen to his speech. Let me know if you have anything to back up that hypothetical.
As for me, generally speaking, I would put the Constitution before any party affiliation. I'm not sure why you would think otherwise. Can I assume you would do the same?...put the Constitution over your own party which has members seeking to replace the 3 branches of government with a unicameral National Assembly like that spawned by the French Revolution? The only reason I have concern about you is because you were willing to encourage Marines to disobey lawful orders during times of civil disorder led by people from your side of the political spectrum.
You should be. He is actively trying to undermine the constitution.
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Good thing he's doing such a poor job of it, then.
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National address? The douche is going to further pollute the minds of his sycophants
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How many sycophants do you think he has?
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Boots on the ground in Greenland??? SHIT!
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Plowed ground. Everyone knows the Dems cheat (e.g., LA)
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Indeed. I don't want to go back. I just want the real info to help pass Save America Act.
Dems used COVID opportunity to change rules on voting which they were able to then use to cheat and steal the election. But you can't change the past. You can let it form the future however.
Sounds you’re so disappointed that he’s not going to declare war.
Or you’d rather want him to declare war than want him to address the domestic issue on our democracy.
He is declaring war
He has been waging war on democracy for years now without a formal declaration.
There’s a reason he cut Cybersecurity.
The budget cut is on FY2027. The election campaign for midterm is 2026. Your reason is unreasonable.
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The sooner he leaves this world, the better.
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Violence comes from the Left. Dude, this is FBI noteworthy. What a horrible post.
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Quest definitely thinks this post is violence.
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I’m sure djt has said meaner things about his political foes “glad he’s dead”
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Nice try to cover for your homie. 3 assassination attempts by Left wackos - and he encourages more.
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You're implying quite a bit.
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Of immediate concern to DJT is this Fall's MidTerm election...he desperately needs to interfere with
a system that has been shown to be secure...a system that his Campaign Manager, White House Counsel, and Attorney General relied on to tell him he LOST the 2020 election...along with later national hand-counts of ballots in states like Georgia...the one where he 'asked' the GA SOS to Find 11,780 votes...or else...
Sadly, this Board is littered with MAGA "marks" and/or intellectually dishonest posters.
They will applaud Trump's falsehoods and embrace his continued frontal assault on our democracy.
Their claims of fake ballots and vote count fraud is unsupported by any credible evidence. All such claims were soundly rejected by US courts -- the place where real evidence is presented and scrutinized.
Rather, they feed on unsubstantiated and recycled garbage. Fox News learned the hard way paying out nearly $780 million for defamation.
It's amazing that Trump hasn't completely destroyed "our democracy" by year six. Has an autocrat
ever before taken this long to dissolve a state and reform it completely into his image? Or is that because patriots like you have been extra-stalwart in protecting "our democracy?" A foolish man might conclude that you don't actually believe that the destruction of our system is close or imminent, and instead are engaging in a dishonest strategy of trying to frighten people into voting the way you wish them to vote.
The drama is thick today, MAS. We’re back to a threat on democracy. You still have your application
In to be a guard at the camps Trump was supposed to open? I was disappointed It didn’t happen but maybe now it will. Maybe I can retire and watch over the Liberals he rounds up.
Watching the TDSers being rounded up and hauled away would be like when a drunk, obnoxious fan at a
ball game is removed and everyone else applauds. At this point, I don't want taxpayers to subsidize their confinement here. Instead, I want them shipped to Somalia, Haiti, Ukraine, Cuba, South Africa. Their reception will be eerily similar to Clark's reception when he asks for directions in East St. Louis while in the Family Truckster.
Putin. There are still elections in Russia, after all. Genius.
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Actually he has. See January 6th. Trump has seeded distrust of our sound electoral process.
The world no longer reveres us ..... thanks to voters like you.
(chuckling) I lived through the aftermath of the 2000 election, the widespread belief among libs
that Karl Rove and Ken Blackwell stole the 2004 election for Dubs in Ohio, and the agonizingly long investigation and endless allegations that Trump and Putie stole the 2016 election. I've also lived through the naked corruption of the voting process with ever-increasing "absentee" ballots, electronic voting, the counting of votes received after election day, and election results that take weeks to tally. Don't even start with this crapola about poisoning the well with the American public and voting.
Anyone who acts according to whether others will admire him is a vapid twit. Israel has been hated since its creation. Britain faced widespread hatred in the 19th and into the 20th centuries, even after leading the way in abolishing slavery and bringing rule of law and increased standards of living to countless places. Furthermore, I can think many virtuous men in history who were reviled, and also one Savior. It fits that you think what is important is how others see you and us.
Can you name any autocrat who took six years and counting to erase a democracy?
In 2000 like 2020 there was no evidence of voter fraud. Your…
“Naked corruption” claim is hogwash and you know it.
Question…aren’t you just a little embarrassed that you voted for an absolute nitwit?
Read it again. I didn't say any of those elections were corrupt. I cited counting ballots that
arrive after election day, "absentee" ballots, and so on as corruptive forces in our system, which they are, and that is by design.
If you think radical Jacobins care about winning through clean, democratic elections, you're a fool. They care only about amassing power. Their only value is nihilism. They intend to blow up the system, and they do this by subverting institutions and all that is good. How does it feel aligning yourself with people who despise this country? You'd have to be willfully ignorant not to have grasped that the modern Left hates this country. Upon command, they can enumerate numerous ways this country sucks. They believe and state that it was conceived in evil. They despise the concepts of objective truth and objective morality and celebrate nihilism, hedonism, and relativism. They despise innocence and celebrate the profane and the depraved. They despise beauty and celebrate the repulsive (in the arts, in architecture, in the defacing of the human body). They despise duty but demand and constantly expand "rights." They despise the nuclear family and celebrate all that eviscerates it, knowing that the greatest impediment to their schemes throughout history is a patriarchal family. They despise merit and industriousness and celebrate grievance and entitlement. They despise the individual conscience that is not like their own and celebrate the consensus of the anointed and "enlightened".
Are you a southern Baptist? If not, you sure write like one…
In the sense that you’re full of shit. You, like all Trumpers, think there’s widespread voter fraud. Mail-in ballots have been around since 1896. The corruption and fraud claims are bullshit. Take the cob out of your ass and puff on a joint. It’ll do ya’ good.
Any chance you could Livestream yourself watching the speech?
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A Ty Webb quote comes to mind. Regarding Judge Smails.
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I will be soooo glad when he's gone and not distracting us from issues.
He lives to be noticed... for WHATEVER reason.
I’m truly shocked that you think this speech is going to be bad. You are usually so open minded
When it comes to Trump. I won’t be watching so I’ll have to catch up when you post your one sided views on here.
He is worried there is evidence about to be dropped.
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You don’t think the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, do you?
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No more than any election can be stolen with mail in and drop box bundle voting.
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You don’t think the open letter by 51 former intel officials influenced 2020 election, do you?
Just answer yes or no.
MAGA always conflating BS...you could say Trump promising lower prices and no war
is a form of voter fraud, but MAGA is too stupid to understand.
No idea what are you talking about. But it seems my question hit somebody’s raw nerve.
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Don't play stupid, how does 51 former intel people fit into a voter fraud narrative?
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Who was playing stupid to my question? Now if you want to know how? go back to read many old posts.
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Figured that would make you run
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Stolen; no. Do I think there are issues with voting, yes. There are reasons
The Dems are fighting against voter ID laws and mail in ballots. I know you don’t see or want to see it. Elections shouldn’t take weeks to finalize. “The way it’s always been” is not a good enough reason for me.
My advice to you…
Don’t buy into the BS. There is no malfeasance going on. I don’t mind voter ID laws and such, but claiming the California election was somehow crooked is ridiculous. Nothing out of the norm happened.
Ok. Then pass the law for voter ID. You can’t do much of anything in our country without showing
ID. Voting by mail needs to be the exception and not the rule. Show up, show your ID and vote. It’s not that hard.
Of course. Just giving you some facts about California voting rules that…
You may not have known about. Also, California has always been in the orange cunt’s crosshairs when it comes to alleged voting irregularities.
When citizens register to vote in California they have to prove their identity…
I.e…show a valid ID. When voting in person, they have to prove their identity. Mail in ballots are only sent to registered voters. No issues here.
The Democrats think that it is racist to require IDs to vote, which is kind of weird & nonsensical.
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You do know there are other states outside of California, right?
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Response is above
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I get it. Voting by mail in ballot isn’t bad. It just shouldn’t be the norm. My father in law
Continue to receive a ballot a year or so after he died. That should not happen. Voter roles need to be cleaned and people need to show up to vote. It’s not that hard. Early voting is available for those who can’t make it Election Day.
There shouldn’t be this much resistance to showing an ID to vote.
I’m going with - your post is not true!
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Ergo Trump admin can't secure elections, but Biden admin can. Got it!
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I hope there is red lighting and marines standing behind him.
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You really don’t want the findings made public. I can understand that since it is
perhaps best to simply move on from the whole thing.
But if we are ever to stop this from happening again, we have to see it.
Thank you for telling us in advance that there will be no evidence, no matter how credible that will sway you from your zealot faith. But we knew that.
I’m interested in what they were able to confirm - math doesn’t lie.
Gotta do some work now, talk after.
Like I said below, a bullshitter's bullshitter...
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Brilliant - Kool-aid man.
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Findings? Bwahahahaha! After multiple court rulings, the claims were found baseless
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I look forward to the new, even crazier conspiracy theories he is going to roll out tonight
Even you would probably agree that if there was ANY evidence of election interference, it might have surfaced by now. And Trump would wave it around at every opportunity.
But there's not. Because there was none.
It is loony tunes nonsense.
We are at war, and the president is obsessed with this shit. And reflecting pools, and ballrooms, and arches, and crowd sizes. You must be so proud.
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