I am super entertained at the theatrics of the testimony, so that's great. If we can't get good laws out of Congress, the least they could do is entertain us.

But my question is, how does the 5th amendment become nullified by a pardon?

Or at least that is the theory. That said, it doesn’t preclude using the testimony to sue you for something else or to sue someone else, or in Fauci’s case, for states to sue him.

((Edit to add: Sorry if that was too harsh. Your posts are always constructive.))

I don't think reputation damage is enough for a guy who illegally funded the development of a virus that killed over 7 million people.

Granted, 7 million dead is something that just bores Quest. How can he bother himself to think about that? But it bothers me.

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US law allows the courts and Congress to subpoena Fauci to testify. So, he has to testify.

But: The 5th Amendment says he doesn't have to testify if he might incriminate himself in a criminal case. This trumps the law. In constitutional rochambeau: Constitution beats statute. So, he doesn't have to testify.

But, but (and this is your question, I think): The pardon makes it impossible for him to be prosecuted criminally, so the 5th Amendment, which deals with criminal cases, does not apply. So, he has to testify.

But, but, but: The 5th Amendment extends to state criminal cases, but the pardon extends only to federal prosecutions. So, he may be invoking the 5th to avoid incriminating himself in state criminal court. So, he doesn't have to testify.

But, but, but, but: If someone invokes the 5th inappropriately (e.g., they say they cannot testify without incriminating themself, but Congress thinks they can testify freely), they can be found in contempt. I'm not too familiar with how Congressional contempt proceedings are handled. I know that people have gotten away with contempt for improperly pleading the 5th before. For example, Lois Lerner was found in contempt for pleading the 5th regarding using the IRS to target conservative organizations. Nothing happened to her because the Obama DOJ dropped it. (She had even publicly apologized for targeting conservative organizations, and still the Obama DOJ said she could invoke the 5th.) If there were a contempt proceeding, I sure would like for Fauci to try to identify a state statute under which he could be prosecuted criminally, to justify his invocation of the 5th. Something tells me nothing will happen. I just don't have too much faith in our Congress (regardless of which party controls it.

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forced to wear masks and get vaccines that they did not need (remember when I said that the low risk children didn't need it and the faux medical experts on this board foolishly argued otherwise? Who did they rely on? Fauci...who was lying the whole time - apparently to protect his reputation which he deemed to be more important than those children.

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Link: https://x.com/gitrdonelarry/status/2082520896699240590?s=61

Held accountable for the shit that was done. The damage they caused was crazy. Of course, nothing will be done and no one will be held accountable. Watching Fauci get ripped to shreds today was entertaining but he got to walk away. He was having the time of his life during a dark time. He’s pure evil.

Link: https://x.com/saras76/status/2082578418592333900?s=61

And we don't need him to figure out what happened

permanently, including the best burger we had in my area, due to his lockdown policy.

Weren’t allowed in. Thank god I live in a state that basically said screw you to all that stupidity.

Link: https://x.com/clownworld/status/2082273402199433524?s=61

may never be able to repay.

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