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Why is California spending millions(!) giving out free meth/crack pipes?

Author: NedoftheHill  (47172 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 12:46 am on Jul 31, 2026
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What societal benefit is there? I understand the argument for needles, but pipes? I'm sure there is a reason. Anyone know?

Meanwhile, I can't buy sudafed without being tracked by the government in my state. Does California give out free sudafed as well, to help people make meth? Heck, why not just give out free meth?


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.

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Thread Level: 2

CA has always been the Amsterdam of the USA. Incompetent docs out of UCLA & crackheads galore

Author: LanceManion  (10314 Posts - Joined: Jul 16, 2010)
Posted at 12:41 pm on Jul 31, 2026
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Imposing corporate abuse, neglect and greed on deserving victims.
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My guess would be that they plan to tax the crack.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63845 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:13 am on Jul 31, 2026
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Dems never met a tax that they didn’t like.
Just priming the pump for additional revenue. :)


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I want my free Sudafed!!!

Author: NedoftheHill  (47172 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:17 am on Jul 31, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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…and the free house for the lab - it’s “harm reduction” afterall.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63845 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:37 am on Jul 31, 2026
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The program isn’t perfect, but do you have any alternatives?

Author: Domer From Hell  (18477 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:56 pm on Jul 31, 2026
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You and your ilk drove the junkies to smoking crack. Thanks, Trump

Author: Domer From Hell  (18477 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:57 am on Jul 31, 2026
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We're all born bald baby!
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So, why is California spending millions handing out meth pipes for free? Do you not know?

Author: NedoftheHill  (47172 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:04 am on Jul 31, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Had to Google this and here’s what came up…

Author: Domer From Hell  (18477 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:13 am on Jul 31, 2026
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“ No, California's state government is not spending millions of dollars on crack pipes, as state and federal funds are legally barred from purchasing drug paraphernalia.However, local county governments within California—most notably Los Angeles County—do allocate millions of dollars to broad "harm reduction" budgets, a tiny fraction of which goes toward distributing smoking kits that contain glass pipes.The Funding BreakdownWhile headlines often conflate the total budget with the cost of the pipes, the actual spending is structured as follows:Total Harm Reduction Budget: Los Angeles County increased its overall harm reduction budget from $5.4 million to $31.5 million to combat soaring fentanyl and opioid overdose deaths.What the Millions Actually Pay For: The vast majority of these millions covers staffing, healthcare programs, overdose-reversing medications like Narcan, and sterile syringes.The Cost of the Pipes: Public health officials explicitly stated to the Los Angeles Times that only a small fraction of local county funds goes toward buying the glass pipes. Because pipes themselves are incredibly inexpensive, the county does not spend "millions" on the physical pipes.”

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So then, its true - however gently they try to couch the spin

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63845 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:17 am on Jul 31, 2026
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Did you read what I posted? Millions of dollars are not being used to purchase crack pipes….

Author: Domer From Hell  (18477 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:20 am on Jul 31, 2026
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It’s right there

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I mean, it’s true that govt in CA are providing “smoking kits w glass pipes”. Why?

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63845 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:30 am on Jul 31, 2026
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The answer is in their name of the program.
They think it is “harm reduction”….like the free needle programs.
They soend millions on a “harm reduction program that chooses to give out free crack pipes as one strategy.
If I were you, I’d want to know where they are choosing to spend all of the rest of that money given their choice on the pipes.


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If it was of interest to me, I’d definitely inquire about it…

Author: Domer From Hell  (18477 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:41 am on Jul 31, 2026
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Being that California is a donor state, unlike your welfare state, the money spent on harm reduction is a drop in the bucket. It doesn’t affect me one iota.

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This is really going to burst your bubble - I’ll post above cuz it’s interesting

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63845 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:59 am on Jul 31, 2026
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Now that we've established that they do handout free meth/crack pipes, the question remains: Why?

Author: NedoftheHill  (47172 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:16 am on Jul 31, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Not sure. I don’t smoke crack nor do I know anyone that does…

Author: Domer From Hell  (18477 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:22 am on Jul 31, 2026
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I’ll be sure to ask the next junkie I run in to, though.

We're all born bald baby!
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Just looking for a response from a Democrat. Seems like a uniquely Democrat issue.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47172 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:24 am on Jul 31, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Welp, you might want to ask a Democrat then, huh?

Author: Domer From Hell  (18477 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:26 am on Jul 31, 2026
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We're all born bald baby!
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You responded. For POTUS, you voted Democrat, and you will vote Democrat again, right?

Author: NedoftheHill  (47172 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:49 am on Jul 31, 2026
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But, please, in the future, don't feel compelled to post 15 times on a subject you know nothing about.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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Seems you have re-register to change party affiliation, no?…

Author: Domer From Hell  (18477 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:54 am on Jul 31, 2026
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And it seems you knew nothing about the subject you posted. Consider yourself educated. You’re welcome.

And…Google is your friend. Try using it before post fallacies.


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Not in my state. It just depends on which primary ballot you select. Many states are like that.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47172 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 2:45 am on Jul 31, 2026
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I googled and didn't get an answer. Apparently you didn't either.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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In my state…the best state…you have to re-register to vote in order to change..:

Author: Domer From Hell  (18477 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:57 am on Jul 31, 2026
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Party affiliation.

We're all born bald baby!
Thread Level: 9

They’d just take the Fifth Amendment.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63845 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:38 am on Jul 31, 2026
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