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As this Sunday comes to a close, I'd like to share Fr. Brendan McGuire's Homily with you...it's the

Author: TyroneIrish  (25346 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 4:35 am on Aug 3, 2026
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most unique perception of the "Loaves and Fishes" Gospel my wife and I have ever heard...and communicated...along with making perfect sense to us.

Downvote me, if you must, but do yourself a favor and watch that Homily...would like to hear any comments/thoughts as well.




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Here are some of my thoughts on Fr. Brendan's Homily...

Author: TyroneIrish  (25346 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:58 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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>Using the example of "Rachel"...the 'Uber Mom' on the Parish visit to Turkey and Greece...Fr. B postulates that the women in the "Loaves and Fishes" crowd would very likely have thought ahead and come 'Prepared' for a long trek with family members to listen to Jesus...i.e. food to sustain their own group.
>When the Disciples (Men...who don't quite think like the women) see the immense crowd and 'Do the Math', they worry about causing harm, thinking that no one is 'Prepared' and suggest that Jesus send them away for their own good.
>But Jesus knows better, and uses the opportunity to deliver a message...i.e. if everyone...including the Disciples who have only 5 loaves and 2 fish between them (btw, THEY had at least SOME preparation)...shares what they have (e.g. the small groups with 'Prepared Women') there will be no need to send them away...and it works...Miraculously to the Disciples.
>The fundamental message is the need for "Caring and Sharing" by all of us, and this message resonates through time immemorial...and especially TODAY. Truly a Powerful Message.

Kudos, and Thank You, Fr. Brendan! Another compelling Homily...and Lesson we can take home.


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So, the Miracle of the Loaves and Fishes was not actually a miracle.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47197 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 3:25 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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Just an example of women being better than men.

Is "Fr. B" in favor of abortion?


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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And, a little more on Miracles...

Author: TyroneIrish  (25346 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 4:42 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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...i.e. a hint as to why literalism isn't the only way to interpret reports of uncommon events...

All this being said, Jesus' message to "Love One Another' is universally accepted.


Link: https://lumenmedia.org/news/grace-notes-why-is-the-catholic-church-cautious-about-miracles

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More for you on the 'Loaves and Fishes' miracle...

Author: TyroneIrish  (25346 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 4:15 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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...FYI...you can Google the topic and get several documentary references...like I did
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AI Overview

Miracles of the Loaves and Fishes both Pointing to the ...

The Catholic Church officially teaches that the feeding of the multitudes is a genuine supernatural event, but it has not defined a specific micro-dogma on the exact physical mechanics of how the multiplication occurred. While official texts call it a miracle, alternative non-supernatural theories ("miracle of sharing") exist but are heavily rejected by mainstream traditional teaching.

(Official Church Teaching)
The Catechism of the Catholic Church explicitly refers to the event in paragraph 1335 as the "miracles of the multiplication of the loaves," describing how Jesus blessed, broke, and distributed the food to prefigure the Eucharist.

(Catholic World Report)
Traditional Catholic commentary, theologians, and bodies like Catholic Answers maintain that the text demands a literal, supernatural multiplication of matter rather than a social exercise.

(Catholic Answers)
The "Miracle of Sharing" Debate
Some modern theologians or homilists occasionally suggest a psychological or social miracle—the idea that Jesus’ example inspired people to share hidden food from their own baskets.

Traditionalists and conservative Catholic commentators strongly reject this sociological reading, arguing it strips Christ of His divinity and ignores the physical detail of the 12 leftover baskets.

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You're a "Trad"...I'm a "Mod"...Peace, Brother...


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It's thought provoking at the very least...even the Disciples had Loaves and Fishes with them...why

Author: TyroneIrish  (25346 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 3:51 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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wouldn't those thousands who trekked out into the wilderness think of bringing sustenance?...

As for Women vs Men...watch the video...he's light-heartedly giving props to the MOMs who are always 'Planning Dinner', since the Guys aren't going to do it... ;-)

We'll get to the Abortion issue before too long...be ready for some 'Homework'...

Now, back to the Homily...if no one Shared what they brought, there would likely be hundreds w/o food who would suffer...but if everyone shared what they had, everyone would be taken care of...and no need for a miracle. Worth considering and contemplating. We all need to Think outside the lines, and not be super 'literal'/pedantic...that's why we have "Bible Studies" discussions...and Theologists.


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Don't want to answer the question unless it helps your Party? Par for the course.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47197 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 5:20 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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I’ve given you proof that there are different schools of thought…just accept reality. That’s an

Author: TyroneIrish  (25346 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 6:44 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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Honest answer…admittedly not what you want to hear but has truth going for it…;-)

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I asked about "Fr. B." Your answer doesn't mention him.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47197 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 8:32 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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If you don't want to answer that question, how about this:

Is this guy your parish priest?

Do you go to Mass weekly? You seem to want people to believe you do, so I'm asking, do you?

Or do you just watch his homilies online in place of going to Mass? Do you watch all of his homilies?...or are you notified when he has one that is particularly in line with your primary source of morality, the Democrat and DSA Parties?


Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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You haven’t explained whether or not you accept his Homily on the ‘Miracle’ of the Loaves & Fishes…

Author: TyroneIrish  (25346 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 9:45 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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As for Abortion I’ve never heard him speak about it…but you’re free to make something up.

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That has nothing to do with the questions he asked you.

Author: Hensou  (11042 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)
Posted at 10:10 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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What are your thoughts on the OP?…I.e. his perspective on the miracle of the Loaves and Fishes?

Author: TyroneIrish  (25346 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 10:30 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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Did you watch and listen to Fr. Brendan’s Homily?

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Thread Level: 11

That has nothing to do with the questions he asked you, Claude.

Author: Hensou  (11042 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)
Posted at 10:36 pm on Aug 3, 2026
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