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Catholic counselors win in court against Whitmer’s new Ban on Conversion Therapy Law

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63871 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 12:42 am on Aug 4, 2026
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Link: https://www.ncregister.com/cna/michigan-ends-restriction-on-catholic-counselors-who-treat-kids-with-gender-dysphoria

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Thread Level: 2

Gender dysphoria is a manifestation of deep-seated psychological/developmental conflicts and

Author: Curly1918  (18202 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 1:34 pm on Aug 4, 2026
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anxieties which are unrelated to any religion.

And there can be no "conversion" from this malady (or for any of the myriad forms of human psychosexual dysfunction) without accessing and resolving the underlying, deeply repressed "issues."

This process is extremely "challenging" and the rarest of human experiences.

Society needs to tolerate this relatively innocuous form of mental arrest... but by no means celebrate it any more than we do schizophrenia.


Thread Level: 3

I have a lot of optimism the psychedelics can help.

Author: iairishcheeks  (30210 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 6:26 pm on Aug 4, 2026
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It’s worth noting that Schizophrenia is most often treated with medications…as is GD…

Author: TyroneIrish  (25360 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 5:42 pm on Aug 4, 2026
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...when counseling is insufficient.

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Define "treated." In both cases you're referring to the symptoms... not the underlying causes.

Author: Curly1918  (18202 Posts - Joined: Aug 30, 2017)
Posted at 7:59 pm on Aug 4, 2026
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But at least you are conceding that not merely personal choices.

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I love the contradiction: "Gender-affirming care is between patients, parents, and doctors."

Author: MAS  (22745 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:06 am on Aug 4, 2026
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But essentially Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy when it comes to sexuality IS NOT left up to patients, parents, and doctors, or even adult patients and their doctors. Good stuff. Guess what the response has been when I've pointed this out? It's on your list.

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As you know, they don’t care about principals except when useful to their goal. But this one

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63871 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 12:42 pm on Aug 4, 2026
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messes with their rookery, so they are willing to expose their hypocrisy - to the point of contradicting themselves openly simultaneously.

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As posted here many times...All GD patients start and continue with counseling...even through drug

Author: TyroneIrish  (25360 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 3:43 am on Aug 4, 2026
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and if chosen, surgical therapy.

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Since the Regret Rate for GD patients opting for GAS is on the order of 1%,,,and Catholic Counselors

Author: TyroneIrish  (25360 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 1:33 am on Aug 4, 2026
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will not discuss drug of gender surgery options, this ruling will not serve GD patients well in MI, or anywhere else in the USA.

Thread Level: 3

Always cheering on the mutilation of confused kids.

Author: jakers  (14668 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:43 am on Aug 4, 2026
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Only adults get to have gender surgery...and the 'Regret Rate' is exceedingly low...which

Author: TyroneIrish  (25360 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 3:40 am on Aug 4, 2026
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dramatically reduces the very real volume of suicides for this group of patients.

I've posted documentation on this several times from noted hospitals like the Mayo Clinic, UCLA and Boston Children's Hospital...

You're living in a fantasy world.


Thread Level: 5

"Fantasy world." From the guy who thinks men can be women.

Author: jakers  (14668 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:22 pm on Aug 4, 2026
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And that they should be drugged up and carved up to prove it.

Thread Level: 6

Gender Dysphoria is a mix of biological, psychiatric and social factors as judged by thousands of

Author: TyroneIrish  (25360 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 4:22 pm on Aug 4, 2026
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the best psychiatrists and psychologists at our best hospitals…Mayo Clinic, UCLA…Boston Children’s Hospital…and many more. The treatment protocol of counseling…with options of drug treatment or gender surgery for adults has been developed by them over many years of peer-reviewed studies.

As opposed to your totally uninformed, emotional gut feelings…


Thread Level: 7

Rambling, meandering nonsense.

Author: jakers  (14668 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 6:07 pm on Aug 4, 2026
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Men can't be women. The rest of your gibberish is irrelevant to the point.

Thread Level: 8

Let's see...take your word...or those of thousands of professionals with experience treating Mental

Author: TyroneIrish  (25360 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 6:55 pm on Aug 4, 2026
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Health problems...you lose...again.

Thread Level: 9

You again have to pretend the discussion is over something else.

Author: jakers  (14668 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 7:38 pm on Aug 4, 2026
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You know you're wrong.


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