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This is just unreal, 2 girls multiple charges. WTF??

Author: Frankx  (6524 Posts - Joined: Aug 23, 2017)
Posted at 9:20 pm on Aug 6, 2026
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Link: https://www.koco.com/article/stillwater-jesse-butler-case-dismissed/73337476

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Thread Level: 2

Insane. This is why Juvie’s defy the Law.

Author: Hensou  (11064 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)
Posted at 9:37 pm on Aug 6, 2026
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The juvenile justice system should be eliminated.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47223 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 10:12 pm on Aug 6, 2026
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Authorize the courts to take into account the age of the defendant, but there is no reason to treat a 17 year old as if they are 4 years old. Charge every defendant in accordance with evidence, try them on those charges, and sentence them with age taken into account.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
Thread Level: 4

Hang ‘em high, Ned!

Author: conorlarkin  (23041 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:02 am on Aug 7, 2026
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Excerpts:

To start with the first set of cases: Roper and Graham establish that children are constitutionally different from adults for purposes of sentencing. Because juveniles have diminished culpability and greater prospects for reform, we explained, “they are less deserving of the most severe punishments.” Graham, 560 U. S., at ___ (slip op., at 17). Those cases relied on three significant gaps between juveniles and adults. First, children have a “ ‘lack of maturity and an underdeveloped sense of responsibility,’ ” leading to recklessness, impulsivity, and heedless risk-taking. Roper, 543 U. S., at 569. Second, children “are more vulner- able . . . to negative influences and outside pressures,” including from their family and peers; they have limited “contro[l] over their own environment” and lack the ability to extricate themselves from horrific, crime-producing settings. Ibid. And third, a child’s character is not as “well formed” as an adult’s; his traits are “less fixed” and his actions less likely to be “evidence of irretrievabl[e] deprav[ity].” Id., at 570.

Our decisions rested not only on common sense—on what “any parent knows”—but on science and social science as well. Id., at 569. In Roper, we cited studies showing that “ ‘[o]nly a relatively small proportion of adolescents’ ” who engage in illegal activity “ ‘develop entrenched patterns of problem behavior.’ ” Id., at 570 (quoting Steinberg & Scott, Less Guilty by Reason of Adolescence: Developmental Immaturity, Diminished Responsibility, and the Juvenile Death Penalty, 58 Am. Psychologist 1009, 1014 (2003)). And in Graham, we noted that “developments in psychology and brain science continue to show fundamental differences between juvenile and adult minds”—for example, in “parts of the brain involved in behavior control.” 560 U. S., at ___ (slip op., at 17).[5] We reasoned that those findings—of transient rashness, proclivity for risk, and inability to assess consequences—both lessened a child’s “moral culpability” and enhanced the prospect that, as the years go by and neurological development occurs, his “ ‘deficiencies will be reformed.’ ” Id., at ___ (slip op., at 18) (quoting Roper, 543 U. S., at 570).

Roper and Graham emphasized that the distinctive at- tributes of youth diminish the penological justifications for imposing the harshest sentences on juvenile offenders, even when they commit terrible crimes. Because “ ‘[t]he heart of the retribution rationale’ ” relates to an offender’s blameworthiness, “ ‘the case for retribution is not as strong with a minor as with an adult.’ ” Graham, 560 U. S., at ___ (slip op., at 20–21) (quoting Tison v. Arizona, 481 U.S. 137, 149 (1987); Roper, 543 U. S., at 571). Nor can deterrence do the work in this context, because “ ‘the same characteristics that render juveniles less culpable than adults’ ”—their immaturity, recklessness, and impetuosity—make them less likely to consider potential punishment. Graham, 560 U. S., at ___ (slip op., at 21) (quoting Roper, 543 U. S., at 571).


Link: https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/567/460/

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Thread Level: 5

Maybe you shouldn't be a judge.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47223 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 1:11 am on Aug 7, 2026
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Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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“Maybe”?! :)

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63907 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 2:11 am on Aug 7, 2026
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Agree. It’s completely out of control.

Author: Hensou  (11064 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)
Posted at 10:59 pm on Aug 6, 2026
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Gangs recruit juvies to do their dirty work because they know they’ll get a slap on the wrist for many felonies.


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