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The Great Fauci was concerned about the shot causing miscarriages.

Author: MAS  (22779 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 9:12 pm on Aug 10, 2026
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Wolensky, too. "The best of us," my ass.

Link: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fauci-discussed-covid-mrna-vaccine-concerns-pregnant-women-text-chain-released-senate-committee

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It would be Negligence NOT to be concerned about such an outcome...Fortunately, Drs. Fauci, Walensky

Author: TyroneIrish  (25429 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 4:57 am on Aug 11, 2026
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and many others made the right decision...since studies have shown the mRNA vaccines were safe.

What is Negligent, is for FOX, MAS, Baron, et al to not have done any research prior to posting, as to whether any studies had been conducted and what the outcomes were. Of all those failures, Baron's stands out, given that he is an OB/GYN who should know this immediately.

See the attached study from one of our best sources...the 'Nature' Journal...which I found in seconds.

What is it with MAGAs who won't even do a tiny bit of Critical Thinking...much less Prudential Judgement?


Link: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-06904-y

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Baron didn't do "any" research on this before posting???

Author: MarkHarman  (7911 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:41 pm on Aug 11, 2026
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Ty, just quit lying. Did you not even bother to read what he posted? And if you did, you undoubtedly didn't understand it because it was nuanced.

Baron is well aware of the data you are presenting. What is unacceptable is you pretending to know more about the subject than he does. How dare you?

I used to think you were an okay guy but no more. You are arrogant to think you know more about this subject than he does. You are arrogant to think you know more about HCQ+ than a professor of epidemiology at a major university who reviewed ALL the studies on it (Dr. Risch) and someone who treated several thousand patients with it (Dr. Fareed) who had ZERO deaths out of his patients.

I asked you several times what was your explanation Dr. Fareed had zero deaths, and true to your M.O., you refused to answer. You refused because an honest answer would expose your belief system as wrong. Are you willing to answer this time?


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This looks really bad and not just for Fauci. I want to hear about everything on his phone.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63957 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:19 am on Aug 11, 2026
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1) It is clear that Fauci knew about the potential risk of miscarriages in the early pregnancy due to fever from cytokine rxn - particularly in patients getting their 2nd shot of the vaccine - he even stated it as a risk.
-no mention of this ever went public in recommendations.
It is clear that Fauci and other governing medical body heads in the US chose to not follow the WHO guideline release that expressed caution in this pregnancy scenario.
They made the choice for patients that the risk of not getting the vaccine on board fully outweighed the risk of miscarriage, and in order to do what they wanted, they never told the public nor the doctors treating them.
That is immoral and wrong, but worse is this:

2) What is most concerning is that there was a significant study which ended upsupporting the concern about increased miscarriage rate in those PG patients who received the vaccine in the first trimester, and yet the governing medical bodies remained completely in tow to Fauci and Walensky (including my ACOG). They had certainly seen the career destroying results of opposing Fauci from other reputable scientists that tried to speak against his narrative (Bhattacharya in particular).

Let me explain the concern being expressed by congress at present:
A study in the NEJM 2021 had the data that clearly showed an increased risk of miscarriage (referred to as spontaneous abortion). The study when initially published, erroneously misinterpreted the data, but a follow up letter to the editor brought the fact to light.
The NEJM and every reviewer of the journal for publication is well versed in statistics. Yet this study inexplicably made the most rudimentary statistical error that could possible be made:
In calculating the miscarriage rate, they used the #miscarriages/total number of pregnancy pts vaccinated (104/827 cases).........instead of #miscarriages/ pregnant pts getting vaccine in early pregnancy ( (where the risk of the fever causing miscarriage is at significant potential risk from the vaccine).
Thus, the study published claimed a much lower miscarriage rate than was actually the case for those at risk from the vaccine fever....the rate they claimed with this faulty interpretation of data that even a high school student wouldn't make conveniently came out around 12% which was similar to normal miscarriage rate in the gen population.
But when you look at the miscarriage rate in pregnant patients who received the vaccine in early pregnancy, the miscarriage rate is MUCH higher since (104/127) rate was much higher. The miscarriages all happened in early pregnancy (as miscarriages do), but the study quoted for support of Fauci's recommendations diluted the miscarriages among ALL pregnant patients who received the vaccine in later pregnancy as well which diluted the miscarriage rate finding.

While Fauci, NEJM, ACOG et al might otherwise claim unintentional error on this (incredible error), the problem is that this sharp doctor noticed and published a letter to the editor which MUST come to the attention of the NEJM and then , of course ACOG and NIH. The fact the the letter was published meant that the NEJM reviewers felt it was a legitimate point.
I linked this. The original article is available through a link within my link.

Honestly, I want to read through this article really carefully and also find out exactly what the texts on Fauci's phone said.
My hesitation comes partly from the new higher miscarriage rate of 104/127 cases of early pregnancies who received the Vax experiencing miscarriage. This number is not plausible to me (it appears too high as this level of miscarriage rate would have very likely bene apparent to all of us clinically) which would call into question the validity of the study. At the same time, the rate is clearly higher than the general population, and there is enough power to this study to warrant AT LEAST caution until more studies are done.

The other part of my hesitation comes from how deeply this implicates many others in govt medical leadership who went along with this.
I will look at this, and i will gladly retract anything that proves exculpatory. But I wanted to explain in simple terms what is known and what is being alleged from these texts (the information listed in paragraph after #2)

Regardless, even if only the known facts (I numbered them as #1) are considered, Fauci et all did a horrendous disservice to the people of this country and the world in not telling them so that they could make their own informed decision. I feel that it is a form of assault, and many state courts may well agree with me regardless of pardon status.


Link: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2113516#core-sa1r1-1

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Post hijack: Ty's ignorant constant bashing of you makes me sick

Author: MarkHarman  (7911 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:13 am on Aug 11, 2026
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He constantly belittles your knowledge and capabilities, as if you have zero knowledge about infectious diseases or anything outside your specialty. He has zero idea that you more than have the ability to read, digest and understand medical texts and research not in your specialty.

I, for one, appreciate your input on this board regarding science and medicine. Anyone who has the capability to use basic logic correctly (which would obviously exclude Ty) can see you're right about which you speak.


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Thanks Mark.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63957 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 12:11 pm on Aug 11, 2026
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I have nothing to prove here - that isn't true for everyone.
I can't waste time on wannabe's. If Google could replace real expertise, we wouldn't need doctors anymore.
But Google and AI could easily replace paid internet political posters which would have the advantage of avoiding dealing with bruised egos.


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And he just did it again

Author: MarkHarman  (7911 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:31 pm on Aug 11, 2026
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Btw Mark,remember Fauci's interview 3 days after voicing concern in text: "There are no red flags"

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63957 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:47 pm on Aug 11, 2026
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about pregnant woman" (getting Moderna vaccine).

This is key and will be spun by those with political motives:

AT THE TIME Fauci was voicing his concerns privately about risks that had not yet been adequately studied, he was telling the public that there was no red flags about taking the vaccine in pregnancy. And he and others following him unilaterally decided to gamble and implement a policy without adequate research to confirm the vaccines safety in pregnancy....while they privately expressed concern about miscarriages.
When you know that there is a potential risk, but you have no evidence to reassure that that it is safe, you wait for evidence before telling the public that there is no risk. ESPECIALLY when the WHO has already expressed this risk and advised against using the vaccine in pregnancy without further study.
The WHO at the time specifically recommended that pregnant women NOT get Moderna vaccine.
Fauci overruled that caution without evidence to do so yet.
Instead of waiting for scientific evidence of safety, Fauci flipped the scenario to push the vaccine until there was evidence of it being dangerous.
It is leading congress to wonder about this NEJM study which came out later that year which had data suggesting a risk that had it's numbers misinterpreted to say that the vaccine was safe....until the doctor wrote in and called the NEJM out. One has to wonder if the PTB's were thinking "Oh shit!" when this first came out. They were banking on the safety, this study showed otherwise when its' data was properly evaluated (which I suspect that it was - how could it not be really?). Then conveniently, the data gets spun around to support the argument.

It really has nothing to do with what was finally the case, it was what they knew at that time and how they acted upon that knowledge. That is what congress is looking at now.
Any spin about what is now known about the vaccine deflects from the fact that Fauci was playing God without people's permission.
The correct response at that time would have been that there isn't enough data to know for sure about whether the risks to pregnancy are real or not, and thus we are going along with the WHO to suggest that pregnant women avoid the vaccine in early pregnancy until we can collect the data....they didn't do that. They lied about no red flags regardless of whether those flags ended up being a real problem or not.


Link: https://nypost.com/2026/08/10/us-news/fauci-warned-of-miscarriage-risk-linked-to-covid-vaccine-while-publicly-claiming-no-issues-newly-released-texts-show/

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whatevs. I am sure he misrepresented my words and twisted them or deflected from them. It's what he

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63957 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:02 pm on Aug 11, 2026
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does since he doesn't know anything but wants to look like he does.

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Sry for edits -bad typing, difficult synthesizing down, and corrected link.- done now.

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63957 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 1:50 am on Aug 11, 2026
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Many people on these email/text exchanges who don't have pardons to protect their malfeasance.

Author: NedoftheHill  (47229 Posts - Joined: Jun 30, 2011)
Posted at 12:34 am on Aug 11, 2026
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It might be time to start pursuing them.

Evil preaches tolerance until it is dominant, then it tries to silence good.
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100%. And they will have to talk. Is it any wonder Fauci caused people to no longer trust medical

Author: BaronVonZemo  (63957 Posts - Joined: Nov 19, 2010)
Posted at 4:50 pm on Aug 11, 2026
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guidelines?

Ironically, Fauci caused more vaccine hesitancy than any other individual....even RFK.


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We were told that all the Fauci stuff was bullshit. There was an article from The Atlantic and all.

Author: TampaIrish  (12651 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:27 am on Aug 11, 2026
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If you can’t believe an opinion piece from the Atlantic, what can you believe?

I hold the record for most deleted posts. +137. Certain posters must be protected!
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Re: The Great Fauci was concerned about the shot causing miscarriages.

Author: irishscooter  (5648 Posts - Joined: Oct 1, 2008)
Posted at 9:31 pm on Aug 10, 2026
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Hate is just the bodyguard for grief
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Thank you for the jazz hands.

Author: MAS  (22779 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 10:11 pm on Aug 10, 2026
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‘Cooter is a bit unguided…on his best days…

Author: TakethetrainKnute  (35643 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:47 am on Aug 11, 2026
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RIP Cooter

Author: MAS  (22779 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:54 am on Aug 11, 2026
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Link: https://www.tmz.com/2026/08/09/ben-jones-dead/

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RIP Cooter

Author: MAS  (22779 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:53 am on Aug 11, 2026
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Link: https://www.tmz.com/2026/08/09/ben-jones-dead/


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