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Regarding Fauchino: If HCQ+ was ineffective, how did Dr. Fareed using it result in zero deaths?

Author: MarkHarman  (7918 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 2:00 pm on Aug 13, 2026
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Really, really wanting Ty to answer this question, which he's repeatedly dodged in the past. If any of you other HCQ+ doubters want to take a stab at answering the question, be my guest.

Link: Dr. Fareed book

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Thread Level: 2

If you gave peanut butter and jelly sandwiches to 7K healthy people with CoVid you'd see zero deaths

Author: iairishcheeks  (30289 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 12:55 pm on Aug 14, 2026
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So the question is, was it actually efficacious. To test this you'd have to be willing to give it to people who were actually at risk from CoVid and that would have ethical concerns.

But it was certainly better than the ventilators, that was a fuck up for sure.


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Maybe Dr. Fareed was just lucky, and those esteemed ID docs accept a scientific reality that include

Author: Kalc  (332 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 8:09 am on Aug 14, 2026
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Maybe Dr. Fareed was just lucky, and those esteemed ID docs accept an alternate scientific reality that includes a belief that Dr. Fareed risked the lives of his patients with a treatment that was nothing more than the flip of a coin. They can’t, or refuse to, see that his success was more than just a coin flip. Actually, a success rate of 100% might be better than calling for a coin to land head-up on consecutive occasions. That seems more like correctly calling for a coin to land on its edge.

Whatever the success rate of Paxlovid, or any other alternate treatment, it is highly unlikely that that alternate treatment had a success rate better than 100%.

Nevertheless, their seems to be those—including ID doctors—who cling to their view that COVID patients did not benefit from HCQ+, and those same people still believe they have the science on their side.

We must also remember the reality that HCQ+ does not yield much profit.


Thread Level: 2

Here's why your question won't get a direct answer.

Author: jakers  (14691 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 7:20 pm on Aug 13, 2026
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To address the specific question, you have 2 possibilities: Either the drug regimen was effective (which the agenda won't allow as an answer). Or they all survived because the disease wasn't statistically deadly for the vast majority of the population (which the agenda won't allow, because they still need to defend the school closures, lockdowns, and economic chaos they created).

So you will get the answer you got below and a deflection.


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Pfizer's PAXLOVID worked so well that the human RCT trials were stopped early...helped

Author: TyroneIrish  (25483 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 11:19 pm on Aug 13, 2026
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save thousands of lives during COVID...HCQ+ never conducted an RCT...simple as that.

Don't forget that the FDA gave an emergency use authorization for HCQ+ in the early days of COVID...they were desperate for Anything that might work...so, there was never a grand conspiracy to gain "Power" by anyone. The promoters of HCQ+ had their chance, but never delivered.

Don't just make stuff up...you just lose more of your declining reputation.


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Makes sense. According to Dr. Fareed in his book,

Author: MarkHarman  (7918 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 7:44 pm on Aug 13, 2026
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not one person died from Covid who received this drug regimen within five days of symptom onset, including the older demographic who was dying at a known rate.

Ty keeps saying this treatment is a joke, but both he and his vaunted ID doctor friend/relative are coming at this from total ignorance. He never likes to be proven wrong about anything, so when actual facts become inconvenient to his inaccurate narrative, he just dummies up. I have zero issue admitting I was wrong if you prove me wrong because intellectual honesty is more important to me than my ego.


Thread Level: 2

Dr. Fareed didn't conduct an RCT.

Author: TyroneIrish  (25483 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 2:24 pm on Aug 13, 2026
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That wasn't the question. The question is how, in your estimation (and in your vaunted ID doc's)

Author: MarkHarman  (7918 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 6:59 pm on Aug 13, 2026
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estimation, was he able to treat thousands of vulnerable-aged patients within five days of Covid symptom onset with HCQ+ resulting in zero deaths?

I would truly love to have your ID doc's opinion on this, too.


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LOL...I told you years ago that our ID, P/CC Docs think HCQ+ for COVID is a Joke...still do.

Author: TyroneIrish  (25483 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 7:13 pm on Aug 13, 2026
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Link?

Author: Hensou  (11131 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)
Posted at 12:03 am on Aug 14, 2026
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Then why did it work for Dr. Fareed to miraculously results?

Author: MarkHarman  (7918 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 7:38 pm on Aug 13, 2026
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It didn't.

Author: TyroneIrish  (25483 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 9:52 pm on Aug 13, 2026
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So you're saying Dr. Fareed totally lied?? Wow...

Author: MarkHarman  (7918 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 1:57 pm on Aug 14, 2026
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I'm gonna say this again. You and your vaunted ID doc are so ignorant on this issue you really need to keep your mouth shut. Really. You cannot see that this was a total failure on the medical community's part SOLELY because your hero, the Great Fauchino, falsely and wrongly said there was no evidence HCQ+ worked because of his flawed PERSONAL medical philosophy - again, a philosophy that is completely at odds with the medical research community's - of not accepting observational data as valid.

- Dr. Risch went through EVERY study on HCQ+ while your hero didn't.

- Dr. Fareed treated thousands of vulnerable-aged patients within five days of symptom onset without a single death. (If you read his book you'd know this).

Dr. Zev Zekenko treated hundreds of patients with HCQ+ with no deaths.

Use your brain for once.


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Link?

Author: Hensou  (11131 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)
Posted at 12:03 am on Aug 14, 2026
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LOL…do a search for all posts with the keyword “HCQ+”…you’ll find

Author: TyroneIrish  (25483 Posts - Joined: Oct 8, 2020)
Posted at 12:54 am on Aug 14, 2026
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Hundreds…if not thousands. ;-)

Thread Level: 9

You have no link that credibly refutes Dr. Fareed?

Author: Hensou  (11131 Posts - Joined: Dec 21, 2022)
Posted at 11:39 am on Aug 14, 2026
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He has nothing except for calling Dr. Fareed a liar

Author: MarkHarman  (7918 Posts - Original UHND Member)
Posted at 3:55 pm on Aug 14, 2026
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